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I thought we'd all learned from previous kickstarters to complete our pledge managers as soon as possible? Pledge managers are like filing taxes. There's no real advantage in waiting and you could cause yourself serious problems if you don't get your pledge done in time.

 Alpharius wrote:

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
When did you complete your pledge? The comments suggest it's only those people who weren't locked at least 24 hours prior to close.

Not the case here - locked it around 11:40AM EST, and my card was successfully charged.

I'm not too worried, as I've got the e-receipt, as well as screenshots, etc.

You locked with less than a day prior to close, which is why you got the message.

I think what Backerkit is designed to do is to send a "FINAL WARNING" to anybody who doesn't lock within 24 hours of the close, and that most Creators pair that with a 24 hour notice that also goes out as an Update.

In this case, Backerkit ran the final warning notice, which worked fine, except that it forgot to test if the pledges were locked before it sent. Backerkit ought to work on that. If every backer sends a note to Backerkit and to Adam, they'll fix their script for the next time.

Ah, thanks John - I missed that - much appreciated!

I stuck by my willpower roll, and only ended up adding in the dice boxed set, and the upgrade.

Wheee for me for not dropping trou on my whole piggybanks....

I couldn't add much, just didn't have the money at the time due to buying a new house soon and those expenses. If only he had waited a few more days to close it, payday was yesterday, and I also unexpectedly got my bonus for my good performance review for last year. Can't really complain too much, still getting good stuff for a good price.

Good news, I think?

Clark Collaborator 21 minutes ago
My guess is that the system had a delay in checking the processed accounts. A very small percent of backers received both emails. If you got a confirmation email AND a warning email. Ignore the warning email.
If you account shows your survey as complete and processed do not send a ticket to our support system asking if you account is ok.
You can check your account to see if your pledge has be processed. If it has you are good to go.

You are confirmed, so it's good news that you can ignore the warning.

Exactly!

That was a very troubling e-mail to receive, especially considering how much I 'upgraded' for in the PM!

Looking at the various postings, a LOT of people added significantly during the PM. I don't think you're alone there.

I'd not be surprised if Adam said he added a $2M during the PM.

Kingdom Death 4-time creator about 22 hours ago
Our goal is to get Core Game fulfillment underway or finished before Gencon, so that we can bring units for sale. I have no intention of selling Core Games before Backers are shipped theirs. We'll see how it all goes over the next few months tho!

Ah, Gencon - the goal of many, many projects and people!

Maybe Adam can do a poll to see whether the backers would approve of him bringing a few copies to Gencon for sales purposes?

I know that sort of thing has gone over very well on other KS.
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Honestly, if he's mid-delivery during Gencon and brings a few pallets of 1.5 to sell at full MSRP, I'm OK with that.

OTOH, if he's express-freighting piles of games for Gencon attendees to flip on eBay, then I'm not going to be happy with that.

I'm surprised he didn't include some sort of caveat in his kickstarter. I know that were I to do a kickstarter, I'd definitely spell out that having stock for GenCon is a priority. As long as you let everyone know ahead of time and keep to your own terms it should be fine. There's no reason Adam should miss out on sales for this.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
OTOH, if he's express-freighting piles of games for Gencon attendees to flip on eBay, then I'm not going to be happy with that.

That's always a risk, unfortunately.

 Breotan wrote:
I'm surprised he didn't include some sort of caveat in his kickstarter. I know that were I to do a kickstarter, I'd definitely spell out that having stock for GenCon is a priority. As long as you let everyone know ahead of time and keep to your own terms it should be fine. There's no reason Adam should miss out on sales for this.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
OTOH, if he's express-freighting piles of games for Gencon attendees to flip on eBay, then I'm not going to be happy with that.

That's always a risk, unfortunately.

That could spin out of control real fast. Some of use missed the post about there already being delays and pretty sure people would miss a post or note about there being some for sale at GenCon. Adam is trying to minimize rocking the boat on this KS.

OT: So any advice or guides for GenCon? Going to be doing it for the first time this summer.

Loyalty to your fanbase is pretty important if you want them to be loyal to you. I think it's a smart move for him to work as hard as he can to at least have the shipping process started by the time gencon hits.

Gencon is mid-August, so he has a hair over 4 months to produce, package and transport items to in-country distribution for final delivery. While that sounds like a long time, 1 month is on the water and in Customs, so he only has 3 months to for production and packing. I think starting delivery prior to Gencon is possible, but a little tight.

I'd be quite happy for him to sell at Gen Con providing that delivery to backers has at least started, and that copies sold at Gen Con are at full retail price. But I recognise that not all backers feel the same way.

I am relatively speaking a latecomer to KD:M, too -- I didn't back the 1st KS so delivery of my 1.5 box this summer will be the first time I've gotten my hands on the game. I guess that someone who backed the 1st KS, and owns everything KD have ever released, might be a bit more angry if their copy is sitting in the warehouse while non-backers get to buy copies at Gen Con.

Still, the reality of the industry is that Gen Con is *the* big event of each year, both for creating a buzz and just plain shifting product. Anyone who wants to see KD succeed should be willing to see a stall there, selling games.

Eh, mebbe he'll just sell product that wasn't featured on KS. Wasn't he at another convention selling models and not the base game (because he needed another print run)?

 Ian Sturrock wrote:
I guess that someone who backed the 1st KS, and owns everything KD have ever released, might be a bit more angry if their copy is sitting in the warehouse while non-backers get to buy copies at Gen Con.

I'm not sure this hypothetical person would care very much. Sure, they wouldn't have their 1.5 rules yet, but if they backed the first campaign they'd already have the base game which is a far greater asset than the latest rules. If any group would be "angered" by such a theoretical sale, I'd expect it'd be the group you belong to of "people who don't have the game already." I suppose there could be a v1 backer who sold their game (likely at a profit) and then re-bought it, but I find it hard to muster sympathy in that event (since them not having it is a direct result of their actions) like I could for new backers.

The timeline seems very tight even with manufacturing already somewhat started and this being mostly existing product. I will say that once they got things in-country for the first KS that fulfillment did seem to be quite quick for the US (can't speak to other nations, obviously). Given the fun currently going on in the Eurozone, fulfillment should be extra fun for them for the later waves (which are almost guaranteed to be post-Brexit now).

I'd be entirely happy for him to sell at Gencon whatever the status of the KS stuff is,

but considering the way the manufacturing is done (sprues at one place, printing at another and then packing at either at one of the above, or possibly a 3rd location) unless he's in a position to at least be packing completed boxes into containers for shipping he's not going to be able to do it

since he'll have to get all of each component done in a single run (or pay much higher prices), once the boxes are assembled he can airfreight some to get 2-3 weeks jump on the containers by sea to the US (customs being equal) but other than that there's not going to be a huge amount of wiggle room timing wise

He needs to run off 20,000 units. He could easily pulls the first 100 finished sets for GenCon.

New Stuff in the store


Easter only Twilight Knight


Easter dice (pink on pale green)

plus others

Somebody get her a Cadbury Creme Egg! Her blood sugar's so low she's about to drop that sword!

Just bailed on my first KD purchase. Just short of $40 USD to ship a fig to the Great White North. I like the figs, but not that much. Certainly when you factor in how much resin and plastic I'm already sitting on. ~sigh~

I like the Ranger & Gladiator.

I really hope we see a Kingdom Death : Heroes set that has ALL of them in a single box.

Does the ranger come with the Satan's Lantern pledge in the KS?

Pinups (especially the class ones) aren't included with anything in the KS.

Got all of 'em. Ranger I really liked. Not that I've even started my Bard or Monk from the last sale.

Also had to get more dice...

I'd really like the Easter figure and the Gladiator... ridiculous shipping and then ridiculous import charges mean there's no chance :(

Hey everyone, I am hoping you can help. I have recently taken a shine to a few Kingdom Death models and was hoping to start a collection. Much to my disappointment I found the online store doesn't stock much (and their US store seems to be the only place in the world to buy from).

Am I correct in saying there is currently no active Kickstarter to pledge for and not really anyway of getting most of the models outside of crazy eBay prices?

How often do they bring back popular miniatures for "encore" second runs? Is stuff from the kickstarters eventually expected to go up for general sale?

Thanks for your help. I find this range surprisingly hard to find information for online.

There are 3 places where you'll get new releases at retail prices

First sign up to the KD mailing list

http://kingdom-death.us1.list-manage.com/subscribe?u=1f4d6d8b08474b282855b8143&id=bfa2397385

the store restocks every month or two, typically around the middle of the month (although when there's a holiday like Halloween the restock tends to be then). You'll typically see 2-4 new resin minis and 2-4 encores when a restock hits (although if you're not online most may well sell out before you see the email)

second Full Metal Planet in Japan which does get stock on a regular basis (if you can cope with the Japanese language website)

http://fullmetalplanet.biz/shop/kingdom_death/kingdom_death.html


and the final place worth looking at is CMON who sold their stuff before they were a big hit and sometimes stuff shows up there (none in stock at present)

https://www.coolminiornot.com/shop/kingdom-death

there are also a couple of places on facebook

By Lantern's Light https://www.facebook.com/groups/863706623696679/?fref=nf

is the main unofficial KD facebook group although they're trying to direct selling post to the place below you'll still see some temporarily as they get posted (enough time to at least start PMing for a deal)

Kingdom Death Night Market
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1287754827958340/

a KD trading group where some will offer stuff at more reasonable prices (although a fair few will still look to get what the ebay rates are)

The stuff from the KS (all plastic) will go to the normal KD retailers as it comes out with the reprint of the base game now probably Q3 2017.

next reprints of the existing expansions (The Lion Knight is getting 4 extra minis in the reprint so avoid the original for now) set for Q4 2017

then the new content in Q1 2018 and Q1 2019


probably the best resource to see what has been release in the past is http://vibrantlantern.com/ (although it is missing some stuff)

also the sold out tab on the KD store although a bunch of the OOS stuff was taken down during the KS (to avoid confusion/keep some of the more NSFW stuff off the radar?) https://shop.kingdomdeath.com/collections/sold-out

If you do get tempted by stuff on ebay plastics are likely to be real (I've not seen any fake HIPS sprues yet), but there are a lot of recasts of the resins (often priced as the real things)

Real KD minis come with a brown craft box with an image stamped on the front and a business card like small art card (you might also have a numbered COA and a larger postcard sized art card) If you're not offered that it's most likely to be a recast

(the exception are a few rare pieces that came in grab bags one year when Adam cleared out a bunch of miscasts and some stuff he'd decided wasn't good enough for a real release after he's ordered the casts)

oh and the plastics are the closest thing to resin quality in terms of detail that I've come across in a mini, so don't discount them, especially the big monsters where they become more affordable than the $1-200 resins

Have you tried late backing via Kickstarter or messaging Adam Poots and asking if he'll let you into the PM?