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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/19 13:09:11
Subject: New One Click Iyanden Offer - 24 Hours Only.
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/armySubUnitCats.jsp?catId=cat440161a&rootCatGameStyle=wh40k
I don't think you save any money at all. Automatically Appended Next Post: Nope - YOU SAVE NOTHING!!!
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Mr Mystery wrote:Suffice to say, if any of this is actually true, then clearly Elvis is hiding behind my left testicle, and Lord Lucan behind the right. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/19 13:11:57
Subject: Re:New One Click Iyanden Offer - 24 Hours Only.
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Slashing Veteran Sword Bretheren
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The only thing you save is time. I just cannot grasp the reasoning for putting this up as a one day only thing. Makes no sense at all.
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Fury from faith
Faith in fury
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/19 13:12:09
Subject: New One Click Iyanden Offer - 24 Hours Only.
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Hacking Proxy Mk.1
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No savings, just like every other bundle GW have done recently.
I'm curious how the limited time thing works though, who has that kind of money to throw at half an army on 24 hours notice?
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Fafnir wrote:Oh, I certainly vote with my dollar, but the problem is that that is not enough. The problem with the 'vote with your dollar' response is that it doesn't take into account why we're not buying the product. I want to enjoy 40k enough to buy back in. It was my introduction to traditional games, and there was a time when I enjoyed it very much. I want to buy 40k, but Gamesworkshop is doing their very best to push me away, and simply not buying their product won't tell them that. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/19 13:16:33
Subject: New One Click Iyanden Offer - 24 Hours Only.
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Rampaging Reaver Titan Princeps
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I think this is targeted at impulse buyers who believe they are making a saving (much like those supermarket offer tags that actually have no savings at all). A bit dishonest really but, as they say, Caveat Emptor
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/19 13:18:40
Subject: Re:New One Click Iyanden Offer - 24 Hours Only.
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Slashing Veteran Sword Bretheren
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Yeah its quite digusting actually.
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Fury from faith
Faith in fury
Numquam solus ambulabis |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/19 13:34:33
Subject: Re:New One Click Iyanden Offer - 24 Hours Only.
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Hellion Hitting and Running
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What I want to know is...
Since they keep doing this, does this mean there are people actually buying these...? ...Why?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/19 13:37:50
Subject: Re:New One Click Iyanden Offer - 24 Hours Only.
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Master Sergeant
SE Michigan
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Baronyu wrote:What I want to know is...
Since they keep doing this, does this mean there are people actually buying these...? ...Why?
I would bet its the web team trying to justify their paycheck.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/19 13:43:50
Subject: Re:New One Click Iyanden Offer - 24 Hours Only.
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Fixture of Dakka
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Baronyu wrote:What I want to know is...
Since they keep doing this, does this mean there are people actually buying these...? ...Why?
People are stupid.
Life lesson that.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/19 13:47:16
Subject: New One Click Iyanden Offer - 24 Hours Only.
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Pious Warrior Priest
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These 1-click bundles do a pretty good job of showing what the actual cost of an army from GW is these days.
Around £500 or so for a 1500 point 40k army, after you include the books and some paints/glue. Completely mad.
Even if you buy off a discount webstore, the pricing is still insane.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/19 13:47:34
Subject: Re:New One Click Iyanden Offer - 24 Hours Only.
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Rampaging Reaver Titan Princeps
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Baronyu wrote:What I want to know is... Since they keep doing this, does this mean there are people actually buying these...? ...Why? The same lot priced up using DarkSphere.co. uk comes in just a shade over £300 - over a £100 saving. Why would you pay GW direct prices? Ever? You'd be mad to. However, that doesn't rule out GW FUD (ooo, not sure I trust x to deliver by y, better order it from GW just to safe. Also bizarrely Finecast issues play into this - what if I have a problem - better order from GW just to be safe), impulse purchase based on ignorance (my supermarket label example above) or lack of knowledge of what's out there (something GW really really wants to preserve to prevent people shopping for cheaper and discovering alternatives).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/19 13:49:13
Subject: New One Click Iyanden Offer - 24 Hours Only.
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Fixture of Dakka
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Friends don't let friends buy from GW direct. I cannot fathom why ANYONE orders from their website (US customers). Every person in the USA has access to a discount retailer online..
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Keeper of the DomBox
Warhammer Armies - Click to see galleries of fully painted armies
32,000, 19,000, Renegades - 10,000 , 7,500, |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/19 13:54:53
Subject: New One Click Iyanden Offer - 24 Hours Only.
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Why 4 heavy support choices....
This bundle does not even make sense.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/19 14:08:03
Subject: New One Click Iyanden Offer - 24 Hours Only.
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Death-Dealing Ultramarine Devastator
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You can take a Wraithknight as a HQ choice with the Iyaden supplement.
Still not paying GW's price. Even with 20% discount prices are now too high.
It really is eye opening how expensive a playable army is when they bundle the price together. It may actually be counter productive to sell as bundles.
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In the kingdom of the blind, the one eyed man is king. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/19 14:08:15
Subject: New One Click Iyanden Offer - 24 Hours Only.
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Ultramarine Terminator with Assault Cannon
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What's disgusting that that GW is selling the piss out of those Spiritseer's, but I'm still waiting on a *replacement from launch day.
*Original purchase was missing its head.
I swear, everyone gives credit to GW's customer service, but my last several experiences have been pants.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/19 14:11:24
Subject: New One Click Iyanden Offer - 24 Hours Only.
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Battleship Captain
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glon52 wrote:You can take a Wraithknight as a HQ choice with the Iyaden supplement./quote]
I thought the Wraithknight could be your Warlord, but it was still a HS.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/19 14:19:51
Subject: New One Click Iyanden Offer - 24 Hours Only.
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Dakka Veteran
NoVA
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Arleucs wrote:Why 4 heavy support choices....
This bundle does not even make sense.
I'm not sure if GW even plays their own game... or at least not by RAW.
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Playing: Droids (Legion), Starks (ASOIAF), BB2
Working on: Starks (ASOIAF), Twilight Kin (KoW). Droids (Legion)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/19 14:27:05
Subject: New One Click Iyanden Offer - 24 Hours Only.
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Lady of the Lake
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Red Viper wrote:Arleucs wrote:Why 4 heavy support choices.... This bundle does not even make sense. I'm not sure if GW even plays their own game... or at least not by RAW. It's also about 2010 points from the last thread about this. Also anyone notice how much more expensive it is in Canada now? Aus is $798, which includes tax Can with stronger $, sees $812 ($911~ with tax).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/19 14:27:32
Subject: New One Click Iyanden Offer - 24 Hours Only.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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But, but... One click!
I'd love to see the sales numbers on these "deals". Just amazing...
Valete,
JohnS
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Valete,
JohnS
"You don't believe data - you test data. If I could put my finger on the moment we genuinely <expletive deleted> ourselves, it was the moment we decided that data was something you could use words like believe or disbelieve around"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/19 14:28:26
Subject: New One Click Iyanden Offer - 24 Hours Only.
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Pious Warrior Priest
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^ They probably sell loads, GW customers are largely price-insensitive, and the company is still posting excellent profits.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/19 14:33:01
Subject: New One Click Iyanden Offer - 24 Hours Only.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Kirasu wrote:Friends don't let friends buy from GW direct. I cannot fathom why ANYONE orders from their website (US customers). Every person in the USA has access to a discount retailer online..
Tbh, I have no idea either BESIDES the web-exclusive things. And the only time I ordered something never reached me. Service was good for me tho, after sending them a mail they payed me back right away.
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"Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth! These are the truths of this world! Surrender to these truths, you pigs in human clothing!" - Satsuki Kiryuin, Kill la Kill |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/19 14:56:15
Subject: Re:New One Click Iyanden Offer - 24 Hours Only.
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Been Around the Block
Great Britain
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I received an email from Games Workshop with the following subject:
Games-workshop.com exclusive! Open me to find out more.
I opened it to be informed of the 1 click offer (just the picture and some legal text).
I feel so insulted that they should market it to me in such a way.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/19 15:02:42
Subject: New One Click Iyanden Offer - 24 Hours Only.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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scarletsquig wrote:^ They probably sell loads, GW customers are largely price-insensitive, and the company is still posting excellent profits.
Don't think it is reserved to Games Workshop customers.
Mantic Games' 8-Miniature DreadBall teams RRP for GBP 15,- are a fair bit more expensive per miniatures than comparable GW products, such as 10 Wyches, etc.. Utterly options-free, no bitz or anything... and people still lap up Mantic's spin for being the "budget alternative".
Advertising and reality don't need to match.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/19 15:27:37
Subject: Re:New One Click Iyanden Offer - 24 Hours Only.
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Hellion Hitting and Running
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@zedmeister
And they aren't even doing the "supermarket deal" right, at least those "deals" give you the illusion of saving 5p when you're likely saving 1p or none!
@Zweischneid
Don't know much about Dreadball, but can you play with 8 mini's in that game? Because 10 wyches is barely a list for DE, throw in 2 more venoms and an HQ, and you'd still struggle to play a 500pts game...  I believe that's what the "budget alternative" means.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/19 15:31:53
Subject: Re:New One Click Iyanden Offer - 24 Hours Only.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
West Midlands (UK)
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Baronyu wrote:
@Zweischneid
Don't know much about Dreadball, but can you play with 8 mini's in that game? Because 10 wyches is barely a list for DE, throw in 2 more venoms and an HQ, and you'd still struggle to play a 500pts game...  I believe that's what the "budget alternative" means.
Doesn't change the fact that the DreadBall miniatures are more expensive.
What if I buy a box of Wyches to convert a DreadBall team? Should I give the guy in the GW-store twice of what he asks, because I need less? What if I tell him in only ever play Apocalpyse games of 5.000 points minimum? Would I get all GW-minis at 50% off, because I need so many more of them? And what about people buying minis mainly for painting?
And what if I invent a game that only needs one miniature per player? Could I sell a single 28mm piece of restic for GBP 100,- each, It'll be all you need... I promise!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/19 15:43:13
Subject: New One Click Iyanden Offer - 24 Hours Only.
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Terminator with Assault Cannon
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For a limited time get all these great kits (normally available 24\7) all together at full retail price! This is great news!
Fething moronic.
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SickSix's Silver Skull WIP thread
My Youtube Channel
JSF wrote:... this is really quite an audacious move by GW, throwing out any pretext that this is a game and that its customers exist to do anything other than buy their overpriced products for the sake of it. The naked arrogance, greed and contempt for their audience is shocking. = Epic First Post.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/19 15:44:23
Subject: Re:New One Click Iyanden Offer - 24 Hours Only.
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Rampaging Reaver Titan Princeps
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Baronyu wrote:@zedmeister And they aren't even doing the "supermarket deal" right, at least those "deals" give you the illusion of saving 5p when you're likely saving 1p or none! No, but I think they're trying to tap the same mentality. Compare: "Ooo, only 24 hours, this has to be good value" to "Ooo, it's on offer". Though one will cost you the full price 23p for a tin of beans while the other will cost you £407 for a load of plastic that should, plucking a random number out of the air, probably be considered pricey at £150.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/19 15:45:45
Subject: New One Click Iyanden Offer - 24 Hours Only.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I'm not a fan of the 1-click thingies.
However, they wouldn't do them if people didn't buy them. Parents? People wanting to get back into the hobby?
Dunno.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/19 15:47:08
Subject: New One Click Iyanden Offer - 24 Hours Only.
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Warning From Magnus? Not Listening!
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I was actually excited when I first saw the e-mail... should have known better.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/19 15:50:23
Subject: Re:New One Click Iyanden Offer - 24 Hours Only.
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Hellion Hitting and Running
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@Zweischneid
I don't think you quite understand... But this kinda price comparisons have been done to death, judging by your post count, you've probably seen plenty, so I'm not gonna bother repeating the whole "you need a codex, rulebook, models, etc to play a game" stuff. So if you're happy that the entry cost for a 500pt DE army is about £100+, and you think that is cheaper than just paying £15 and may be a tenner for the rulebook for Dreadball, hell, I'll give it that you need £40ish to have a functional team if 1 of those special characters is needed, that is fine by me.
My point is that it isn't about cost per miniature, but the total cost it takes to have a game running.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/19 16:21:10
Subject: Re:New One Click Iyanden Offer - 24 Hours Only.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Yeah, Baronyu wrote:... just paying £15 and may be a tenner for the rulebook for Dreadball, hell, I'll give it that you need £40ish to have a functional team if 1 of those special characters is needed, that is fine by me.
My point is that it isn't about cost per miniature, but the total cost it takes to have a game running.
If your happy to ignore the extras required for dreadzone... Like a pitch?
Lets compare apples to apples...
Blood bowl teams are about £30 and the rules are a free download.
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat490012a&prodId=prod1100074
Panic...
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