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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/07 21:42:41
Subject: Red Box Games (RBG) Kickstarter project by Tre Manor
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Unstoppable Bloodthirster of Khorne
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Yeah, I read that on the RBG forums. Honestly, I have concerns about stuff like this and how it may affect the details on Tre's existing/retooled/future figures.
I think that these Gynnade defects are primarily a fault of design. When I made them I made for metal that means that those spikes do not have to be super thick and blunt to resist damage, enter Trollcast and suddenly those spikes DO need to be thick and blunted.
Really though, I will be looking closely at them when they eventually arrive and giving feedback. Why would I not?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/07 22:09:10
Subject: Red Box Games (RBG) Kickstarter project by Tre Manor
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Dakka Veteran
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All the production molds are finished:
Creator tre manor 19 minutes ago
As for what is left yet. I was actually expecting Yrsa today but found none. That may be in the next parcels. Other than that Ed informs me today that all production molds are done! So that means we are in the home stretch! Teh onyl castigns I am waiting for now are Yrsa, COnradt's warp form, and the Riders."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/08 23:14:05
Subject: Red Box Games (RBG) Kickstarter project by Tre Manor
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Sneaky Chameleon Skink
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I'm still surprised there hasn't been more reviews / paint jobs of what Tre has sent out so far. Only seen 2-3 hands on with the mini's so far. I know as soon as I get them I'll be putting up some photo's, basing one of them and starting a WiP.
Unfortunately I won't be getting my hands on them for a while though. Still hasn't stopped me from checking KS every once in a while to see if Tre has put anything up
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/08 23:22:11
Subject: Red Box Games (RBG) Kickstarter project by Tre Manor
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Haughty Harad Serpent Rider
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Seriously. I've been clearing out my painting projects rapidly so I can focus just on the Helsvakt figs I am waiting for. Those and the Scibor, Avatars of War, and Darklands minotaurs that will be their buddies in the Helsvakt army.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/01/08 23:22:28
"...and special thanks to Judgedoug!" - Alessio Cavatore "Now you've gone too far Doug! ... Too far... " - Rick Priestley "I've decided that I'd rather not have you as a member of TMP." - Editor, The Miniatures Page "I'd rather put my testicles through a mangle than spend any time gaming with you." - Richard, TooFatLardies "We need a Doug Craig in every store." - Warlord Games "Thank you for being here, Judge Doug!" - Adam Troke |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/08 23:54:01
Subject: Red Box Games (RBG) Kickstarter project by Tre Manor
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Dankhold Troggoth
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I'm glad he decided not to start his KS the day KD:M ended!
I thought he'd be putting it up today, though (if not today I guess tomorrow?)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/09 00:29:07
Subject: Red Box Games (RBG) Kickstarter project by Tre Manor
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Perhaps the arrival of a couple of hundred orders worth of stuff from Ed meant fulfillment got prioritized.
Hard to pack orders and answer the tons of questions / updates you need to do to run a ks campaign at the same time for a one man shop.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/09 00:52:44
Subject: Red Box Games (RBG) Kickstarter project by Tre Manor
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Dankhold Troggoth
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Great point! That probably is the case
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/09 04:11:03
Subject: Red Box Games (RBG) Kickstarter project by Tre Manor
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Dangerous Outrider
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Just got my shipment from the FRP Games end of the world sale. Bought Bonebreaker Multipacks A, C, Basher and Mama Rotbelly - wow, these guys are smaller than I thought but man are they awesome!
Love these crazy guys - think I'll make a Mordheim warband with them as my little savage goblins.
Thanks Tre!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/09 06:03:07
Subject: Red Box Games (RBG) Kickstarter project by Tre Manor
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Haughty Harad Serpent Rider
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I love the Mama Rotbelly figure. She's so damn tiny but so full of character. And yeah, the bonebacks are pretty much the best goblin sculpts on the planet.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/01/09 15:22:44
"...and special thanks to Judgedoug!" - Alessio Cavatore "Now you've gone too far Doug! ... Too far... " - Rick Priestley "I've decided that I'd rather not have you as a member of TMP." - Editor, The Miniatures Page "I'd rather put my testicles through a mangle than spend any time gaming with you." - Richard, TooFatLardies "We need a Doug Craig in every store." - Warlord Games "Thank you for being here, Judge Doug!" - Adam Troke |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/09 13:09:55
Subject: Red Box Games (RBG) Kickstarter project by Tre Manor
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Expendable Defender Destroid Rookie
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I actually got my Bonebacks multipack from FRP, as well, and this thing is amazing! The sculpts are gorgeous (a bit small, as has already been said), but even standing next to Reaper stuff, they would make amazing goblins in any setting  .
Once I finish assembling and cleaning them, I'll post up a picture for you, RiTides!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/09 14:34:58
Subject: Red Box Games (RBG) Kickstarter project by Tre Manor
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Glad you guys like them. Remember that the runty gobs are smaller than the Bonebacks. Teh bonebacks are a pet project of mine. I LOVE sculpting them. If the KS manages to fund the retool of the BB then I plan to make a Bone back Hero, musician and standard bearer to go with them.
As for the order fulfillment, It turned out that there were a lot less orders that I could fill than I thought. MOST of the orders I WOULD have been able to fill have at least Yrsa, or Fenris, or Conradt's warp form on the list. It is very frustrating but this is just the nature of a beast this big.
I am accustomed to production delays with smaller orders. This siteh first time I have ever undertaken such a HUGE job. The size of the project also exacerbates every single problem. Also me not living near enough to the production to see the casts first hand before hundreds of them are run is also a bit of a PITA. We will get there but it is goign to take time to get this right.
AS for the next KS campaign. I have talked with Ed and it seems that running one now is a good idea. I still need to be CERTAIN of these pledges and rewards first and find and smash as many of the bugs as possible though. I will be workign ont hat today and probably submitting the campaign tomorrow. SO I think that put sus out by 2 or 3 days.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/09 14:37:08
Subject: Red Box Games (RBG) Kickstarter project by Tre Manor
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Expendable Defender Destroid Rookie
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Well, having these amazing little guys in hand (as well as Wilhelm the Sure), I really want in on the next project. I don't really have the funds to go big, but I will definitely get SOMETHING
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/09 15:44:56
Subject: Red Box Games (RBG) Kickstarter project by Tre Manor
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Martial Arts SAS
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My order had a bit of almost everything, so I guess it will be one of the last to be shipped.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/09 17:08:05
Subject: Red Box Games (RBG) Kickstarter project by Tre Manor
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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Erasoketa wrote:My order had a bit of almost everything, so I guess it will be one of the last to be shipped.
Me too. Only thing that I didn't get was cavalry. I got at least one of everything else though.
The waiting is killing me... Lol.
~Eric
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/10 04:07:51
Subject: Red Box Games (RBG) Kickstarter project by Tre Manor
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Dankhold Troggoth
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I gave in, and bought some bonebacks on ebay. It looks like they were originally sold in packs of 4 (i.e. three different packs of 4, for 12 models total)?
Anyway, I think I'll be getting all 12, and if one of you haven't posted pics before I do, I'm going to be upset
Planning to use them as hobgoblins to go with my Greebo volmarian chaos dwarfs for blood bowl  (and needed them sooner than the kickstarter will allow, since our league starts next month).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/10 04:51:08
Subject: Red Box Games (RBG) Kickstarter project by Tre Manor
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Expendable Defender Destroid Rookie
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@RiTides: I finished arming and basing all of my bonebacks today, so once I've primed them, I'll snap a few pics and put them up for you! These are metal, though, so no tasty Trollcast for you to check out
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/10 04:53:15
Subject: Red Box Games (RBG) Kickstarter project by Tre Manor
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Dankhold Troggoth
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Appreciated  and metal is good!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/10 14:42:38
Subject: Re:Red Box Games (RBG) Kickstarter project by Tre Manor
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Yeah, I read that on the RBG forums. Honestly, I have concerns about stuff like this and how it may affect the details on Tre's existing/retooled/future figures.
I missed that the first tiem I read through..... To ease your mind, the problem with the Gynnade particularly is that the spikes are difficult to cast in metal as well. Metal is stronger, meanign that instead of breakign off the larger model they simply bend and can be bent back into shape. While with the troll cast if they were a little thicker they woudl be just fine. I just should have made the spikes thicker and shorter is all. There have been no problems with the Aenglish Footmen or heroes, or any of the other models so far as I am informed so I think that the rest of the line will cast far easier than the gynnade have.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/10 18:46:33
Subject: Red Box Games (RBG) Kickstarter project by Tre Manor
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Unstoppable Bloodthirster of Khorne
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Taarnak wrote: Erasoketa wrote:My order had a bit of almost everything, so I guess it will be one of the last to be shipped.
Me too. Only thing that I didn't get was cavalry. I got at least one of everything else though.
The waiting is killing me... Lol.
~Eric
Yep. Me three, sans cavalry. I guess that'll add another month+ to my fulfillment times and keep me out of the next KS entirely then.
Particularly with stuff like this on the forums reporting on the Trollcast:
I had a closer look at my Blutulf and Svetlana today, and I'm sorry to say that they both have some problems. Based on what you said I thought it would be worth letting you know.
The sculpts are great! No problems there! It's just the casting that seems to have some issues.
With Blutulf, apart from some missing spikes (no big deal), the fur cape is extremely thin in some places so that it's transparent if you hold it up to the light and actually has some holes that I don't think were meant to be there. I can fix it, but I thought it was worth mentioning.
The main problem with him though is that the mould line runs right through his face. I think my copy has a very small mould slip which wouldn't be a problem if it wasn't in such a critical place. Sadly, he has ended up with rather asymmetrical features and a bit of a step on his forehead.
With Svetlana, her left knee appears to be missing completely, although there are some odd bumps in this area. She also has a weird problem with her lower lip, which has a step in it (it looks like mould slip, but it can't be because the mould line doesn't run there).
Tre' kindly offered to send the guy replacements, which is good. But there's no way I'm putting more money out there for this material without actually having it in hand to examine closely.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/10 18:53:13
Subject: Red Box Games (RBG) Kickstarter project by Tre Manor
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Sometimes you've just got to take a leap of faith.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/10 22:16:45
Subject: Red Box Games (RBG) Kickstarter project by Tre Manor
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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We did.
And now we are waiting to see the results of that leap before we jump again.
~Eric
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/10 22:59:18
Subject: Red Box Games (RBG) Kickstarter project by Tre Manor
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Phanobi
Canada,Prince Edward Island
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I have been lurking on this thread for a while now just so I can see how well the Trollcast is holding up due to me funding the Trollforged KS itself. I have to say that I am impressed with what I have seen so far and am confident that this is a material I will be satisfied with, not to mention that Tre will be sculpting his own models with Trollcast specifically in mind!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/11 02:33:34
Subject: Red Box Games (RBG) Kickstarter project by Tre Manor
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Unstoppable Bloodthirster of Khorne
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Taarnak wrote:
We did.
And now we are waiting to see the results of that leap before we jump again.
~Eric
Good post. I've leapt twice for Trollcast now for around $400 in total. If you (grevfen) want to pay for my next leap, I'll PM you my PayPal details
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/11 02:40:43
Subject: Red Box Games (RBG) Kickstarter project by Tre Manor
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Dankhold Troggoth
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I am now considering if the bonebacks would work as hobgoblins for an actual chaos dwarf army (not just for blood bowl). I'm sure they're small, as Everyone says  but since they're bigger than Tre's other tiny gobbos, maybe they'll work.
I will know much better when I get to look at them in-person, hopefully next week (I just realized I overpaid via ebay to FRP, as they have the clearance on their site... but they didn't have one of the packs I ordered on their site, only on ebay, so hopefully it's worth it!).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/11 02:49:17
Subject: Red Box Games (RBG) Kickstarter project by Tre Manor
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Expendable Defender Destroid Rookie
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@RiTides: Okay, I've got some pics for you! They are really not good, but one of them has a pretty standard Reaper model, so you can get a good feel for the size, I think.
I hope this helps! They are some incredibly detailed models and their faces are worth it alone. No joke!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/11 02:53:04
Subject: Red Box Games (RBG) Kickstarter project by Tre Manor
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Dankhold Troggoth
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Sweet, thanks for posting them
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/11 03:02:41
Subject: Red Box Games (RBG) Kickstarter project by Tre Manor
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Haughty Harad Serpent Rider
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"...and special thanks to Judgedoug!" - Alessio Cavatore "Now you've gone too far Doug! ... Too far... " - Rick Priestley "I've decided that I'd rather not have you as a member of TMP." - Editor, The Miniatures Page "I'd rather put my testicles through a mangle than spend any time gaming with you." - Richard, TooFatLardies "We need a Doug Craig in every store." - Warlord Games "Thank you for being here, Judge Doug!" - Adam Troke |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/11 04:51:25
Subject: Red Box Games (RBG) Kickstarter project by Tre Manor
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Dankhold Troggoth
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/11 05:02:45
Subject: Red Box Games (RBG) Kickstarter project by Tre Manor
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Expendable Defender Destroid Rookie
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Yup! The squares are all 20mm. One of them is even based on a penny! His feet touch both edges. I also used a couple of 1 inch diameter wooden discs, those gave me a lot of room around the feet, though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/11 10:31:02
Subject: Red Box Games (RBG) Kickstarter project by Tre Manor
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Dakka Veteran
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scipio.au wrote:Taarnak wrote:
We did.
And now we are waiting to see the results of that leap before we jump again.
~Eric
Good post. I've leapt twice for Trollcast now for around $400 in total. If you (grevfen) want to pay for my next leap, I'll PM you my PayPal details
Err.. Maybe not.
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