6th Edition Box Set Discussion - preorder info Aug 24

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**Brother Weasel**

Fafnir wrote:
Hatemonger wrote:
H.B.M.C. wrote:
Nuclear Mekanik wrote:You can totally see why they don't though, it literally would lose them money.

Does not compute.

Really? Are you serious, or is my sarcasm meter just broken? I think he explained it rather precisely, but I'll give it a shot too.

You quoted almost three dozen people (yourself included) who, at the moment of first sight, wanted to drop the ~$100 without further question. If the first time you had seen those pics was right next to the "Pre-Order" button on the GW website, GW would have their three grand in pocket instantly. Instead, the pre-order doesn't go up until next Saturday, but you've seen the pics now.

If even one of those people changes his mind between now and Saturday, then GW has lost money. That means "showing things at the last minute" makes more money than "showing things early". When you're a corporation, and you find out that X makes more money, then that is what you are supposed to do.

They have confirmed this with their own sales figures. They printed an official statement of exactly that in their annual financial report, which means unless you believe they have committed the actual crime of defrauding investors (as opposed to merely figuratively robbing us blind), then you have to accept it as fact. You don't have to like it - I'm sure none of us do. But, unfortunately, they are right on this one.

So, I'm sorry, but... you're wrong.

- H8

Hey, I can do anecdotal evidence and hypothetical situations too!

Bobby plays 40k, and is interested in either DA or Chaos. But he doesn't have a clue when anything is coming out, because, let's face it, GW hasn't got the best track record when it comes to telling people anything.
So Bobby, not knowing that the shiny new starter set is coming out, uses the money that would have been put to that to buy something else instead. A few weeks later, when the set is released, Bobby's already spent the money he would have put aside for the starter set, and doesn't buy it.

Looks like GW lost some money right there.

Bobby still wants the starter set, saves his money and buys it a few weeks/months later, gw still records that as a profit for the year.

**Happygrunt**

TalonZahn wrote:
pretre wrote:Rumors can be wrong. Check my sig for proof.

I agree, however; most of the people giving out the contents of the box are more than reliable.

Also, 1 CSM Lord, 6 Chosen, 20 Cultists, and that Hellbrute vs. Company Master, Libby, and 20 Tacs doesn't seem to fit the GW plan of Marines always winning the starter box games.

Supposed to have Bikes and Deathwing as well.

**pretre**

Happygrunt wrote:
TalonZahn wrote:
pretre wrote:Rumors can be wrong. Check my sig for proof.

I agree, however; most of the people giving out the contents of the box are more than reliable.

Also, 1 CSM Lord, 6 Chosen, 20 Cultists, and that Hellbrute vs. Company Master, Libby, and 20 Tacs doesn't seem to fit the GW plan of Marines always winning the starter box games.

Supposed to have Bikes and Deathwing as well.

That was his point. I said that they may not be coming, despite the rumors.

**Flashman**

Hellbrute is indeed pretty awesome. Cultists are for the most part pretty cool, but suffer from duplication. Grr...

**deleted20250424**

pretre wrote:That was his point. I said that they may not be coming, despite the rumors.

If there's no Terms or Bikes..... I'm holding you directly responsible for jinxing it!

**4oursword**

pretre wrote:
Happygrunt wrote:
TalonZahn wrote:
pretre wrote:Rumors can be wrong. Check my sig for proof.

I agree, however; most of the people giving out the contents of the box are more than reliable.

Also, 1 CSM Lord, 6 Chosen, 20 Cultists, and that Hellbrute vs. Company Master, Libby, and 20 Tacs doesn't seem to fit the GW plan of Marines always winning the starter box games.

Supposed to have Bikes and Deathwing as well.

That was his point. I said that they may not be coming, despite the rumors.

The quote in the OP implied that someone had seen them, so colour me confuzzled.

**Kanluwen**

pretre wrote:
Happygrunt wrote:
TalonZahn wrote:
pretre wrote:Rumors can be wrong. Check my sig for proof.

I agree, however; most of the people giving out the contents of the box are more than reliable.

Also, 1 CSM Lord, 6 Chosen, 20 Cultists, and that Hellbrute vs. Company Master, Libby, and 20 Tacs doesn't seem to fit the GW plan of Marines always winning the starter box games.

Supposed to have Bikes and Deathwing as well.

That was his point. I said that they may not be coming, despite the rumors.

I somehow doubt that.

Traditionally, starter sets have had at least one example of specific unit types.

Bikes and Terminators would fit that last bit.

**pretre**

TalonZahn wrote:
pretre wrote:That was his point. I said that they may not be coming, despite the rumors.

If there's no Terms or Bikes..... I'm holding you directly responsible for jinxing it!

Fair enough.

**notprop**

Oh wow these are pretty god-damned spanky. I only wanted the mini rulebook, but that all looks really nice.

Those cultists will grace a thousand necromunda tables before long.

Where do I sign over my money?

**pretre**

Kanluwen wrote:I somehow doubt that.

Traditionally, starter sets have had at least one example of specific unit types.

Bikes and Terminators would fit that last bit.

Heh. Very true. I guess we'll see soon.

**Kanluwen**

pretre wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:I somehow doubt that.

Traditionally, starter sets have had at least one example of specific unit types.

Bikes and Terminators would fit that last bit.

Heh. Very true. I guess we'll see soon.

As Talon said, I'm blaming you if we don't get them.

**pretre**

Should i add this to the Rumor Tracker too?

Pretre says no bikes or termies in starter set.

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It'll go nicely with my box art.

**Happygrunt**

Kanluwen wrote:
pretre wrote:
Happygrunt wrote:
TalonZahn wrote:
pretre wrote:Rumors can be wrong. Check my sig for proof.

I agree, however; most of the people giving out the contents of the box are more than reliable.

Also, 1 CSM Lord, 6 Chosen, 20 Cultists, and that Hellbrute vs. Company Master, Libby, and 20 Tacs doesn't seem to fit the GW plan of Marines always winning the starter box games.

Supposed to have Bikes and Deathwing as well.

That was his point. I said that they may not be coming, despite the rumors.

I somehow doubt that.

Traditionally, starter sets have had at least one example of specific unit types.

Bikes and Terminators would fit that last bit.

Plus, it is Dark Angels. I HIGHLY doubt GW would avoid everything that makes the DA unique in a box glorifying the Dark Angels. Ravenwing and Deathwing are as apart of the Dark Angels as the color green and robes.

**gianlucafiorentini123**

Is it just me or is the cultist in the bottom row, second from the left, just a rework of the pilot from the 4th ed starter set.

**Brometheus**

At the risk of sounding spoiled and picky.... If CSM goes up for Preorder Sept 8, shouldn't there be pics in the WD? Or rules?

**NoBaconz4You**

WOW! :O These are gorgeous! I am definitely going to get a starter set. If the new chaos release is anything like those models there, I know what my wages are going on...

I especially love the chosen!

**Brometheus**

Oops, wrong place... Well.... Sorta.

**gianlucafiorentini123**

Brometheus wrote:At the risk of sounding spoiled and picky.... If CSM goes up for Preorder Sept 8, shouldn't there be pics in the WD? Or rules?

That's what I was thinking, either CSM are October or the people with white dwarf enjoy watching us suffer.

**ceorron**

Those chosen look the absolute bees knees.

Yeah this is going to be hard to resist but at that price not that hard.

The chaplain too looks great.

But no, wouldn't blame anyone for getting it though.

**d-usa**

gianlucafiorentini123 wrote: Is it just me or is the cultist in the bottom row, second from the left, just a rework of the pilot from the 4th ed starter set.

I don't really see it...

**Kanluwen**

Brometheus wrote:At the risk of sounding spoiled and picky.... If CSM goes up for Preorder Sept 8, shouldn't there be pics in the WD? Or rules?

More likely, the "updated" rules would be present in a campaign booklet for the starter box.

**Happygrunt**

d-usa wrote:
gianlucafiorentini123 wrote: Is it just me or is the cultist in the bottom row, second from the left, just a rework of the pilot from the 4th ed starter set.

I don't really see it...

The tunic is similar, but that is all I am getting.

**DakotaBlue**

Chaos lord.

My job here is done.

**blood reaper**

DakotaBlue wrote:

Chaos lord.

My job here is done.

You have a slight point, though several sword wielding power armoured figures have a similar stance.

**Brometheus**

Meh. Coincidence.

All I see is an enormous amount of Eyes.

Must.... Make.... Starter set... minis.... Thousand Sonsish.

**ceorron**

As a side note those DA have sculpted on details!!!!! That I just would not have though GW would do tbh.

Good on them though, they do look better for it, and I suppose if it makes them more distinct from vanilla, if only from a visual perspective, that is good.

Might put off vanilla players though but I suppose if people want to expand their SM forces better to buy the battle force anyway. After all who doesn't have 10 million SMs lying around.

+1 to GW for taking the higher risk approach but one that actually makes more sense.

**TBD**

Has the price been posted anywhere yet?

**pretre**

No.

**TBD**

The person who took those WD pictures must know.

**Brometheus**

Look at the CSM horns on the Bolter toting chap... Rogue Trader CSM anyone?