Parents of Teens Who Trashed House Threaten to Sue Homeowner (NFL Related)

Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you:

No adverts like this in the forums anymore.
Times and dates in your local timezone.
Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance.
Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely.
Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net.

If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

**Ahtman**

Article

Former pro football player Brian Holloway's Labor Day weekend was ruined after he discovered that hundreds of teens had broken into his upstate NY home for a massive party which caused thousands of dollars of damage. Holloway, a former Patriots and Raiders offensive lineman, ended up re-posting photographs of many of the teens on a site called HelpMeSave300.com in an attempt to "teach our kids to be accountable." He expected to get apologies from parents and the teens—but he told us that to his shock, he's now been threatened with lawsuits from many of the parents: "I don't really understand how they can be upset with me for things their children did."

"I don't really understand it," he told us over the phone today. "They say 'you ruined our kids' life.' If my child was breaking into your home and you posted them on the website, posted the material that THEY posted, I would come there and thank you, and I would have my child be an indentured servant until everything was repaired and cleaned up."

Holloway was in Tampa three weeks ago about to launch his new website Herleague.net, a social media platform for women who love football, when his son spotted Twitter updates about the party and alerted him. "I went right from shock, blew right past furious, and was like, 'Wait a minute, they are so way out there,'" Holloway said. As he watched more and more photos from the party show up on Twitter and Facebook, he was appalled: "This isn't just alcohol. This is alcohol and meth and crack and heroin. It didn't even make sense."

He estimates there is $20-40K in damage, including smashed windows and glass doors, an "enormous amount" of graffiti, urine-soaked carpets, holes in the ceilings, and a stolen eagle statue (which has since been returned). On his website (which he referred to as a "warning disclosure"), he asked the teens to come to a picnic for veterans at the home and help clean it up. "These 300 lives are in real jeopardy," he said. "Why don't you help clean it up, let's turn it into something good. Because I don't want this place to be remembered by the scar of this ridiculous situation."

He said that so far, only one teen and parent have come forward to help him clean up the damages. He's already turned over hundreds of the pictures to the local sheriff: "We have names of probably 220 kids so far, we'll have 300 by this weekend." He added that he's not scared of the threats he's received so far: "They have so much documented evidence, the only term I can use to describe what is going to happen to these teens is 'shock-and-awe.'"

"And how do you intimidate me?" he asked. "I've lined up against Lawrence Taylor!"

Only 1 out 300 of the entire group came forward to help out and face what they had done, how sad is that? Probably not as sad as threatening to sue the guy who's house your kid just wrecked, but but still pretty sad.

**MrMoustaffa**

This article showcases just about every single thing wrong with my generation.

**hotsauceman1**

It is sad that this happened. And even more the delusional parents

**Gentleman_Jellyfish**

What kind of parents would hear about their children taking part in that and the SUE THE HOMEOWNER!?

**erick99**

Ahtman wrote:
Article
"I don't really understand it," he told us over the phone today. "They say 'you ruined our kids' life.' If my child was breaking into your home and you posted them on the website, posted the material that THEY posted, I would come there and thank you, and I would have my child be an indentured servant until everything was repaired and cleaned up."

What? They trash his house, and he is the the that ruined their lives? I honestly am unable to understand how some people can think things like this...

Only 1 out 300 of the entire group came forward to help out and face what they had done, how sad is that? Probably not as sad as threatening to sue the guy who's house your kid just wrecked, but but still pretty sad.

It is terrible. The others should be there to, and if they won't do so voluntarily, the kids' parents should be making them resolve this.

_e

**gossipmeng**

I can't believe these parties actually exist lol. Good job to the kid that came out and helped clean up, but I bet more will end up coming forward. The example in the article was just one parent's reaction, I bet most parents have no idea this even happened - when they are contacted there will be some beatings going down.

Child services is going to have to unplug their phones that week

.... hopefully....

**Grundz**

Gentleman_Jellyfish wrote:
What kind of parents would hear about their children taking part in that and the SUE THE HOMEOWNER!?

one that wants to settle for a measily hundred thousand dollars or so

**Alfndrate**

Grundz wrote:
Gentleman_Jellyfish wrote:
What kind of parents would hear about their children taking part in that and the SUE THE HOMEOWNER!?

one that wants to settle for a measily hundred thousand dollars or so

Yeah! That's little Timmy's college fund right there.

**KalashnikovMarine**

Grundz you have to have something to settle first. It's very hard to win a lawsuit when you're suing for an individual in the middle of committing a crime.

**Frazzled**

He should sue them first.

**timetowaste85**

All of these parents threatening to sue should have been sterilized before they had kids. It's still no too late to sterilize the teens though.

That should get an angry rant from Dakka against me.

**Alfndrate**

timetowaste85 wrote:
All of these parents threatening to sue should have been sterilized before they had kids. It's still no too late to sterilize the teens though.

That should get an angry rant from Dakka against me.

Nah, I'm against Eugenics, but not sterilization of dumbasses.

**cincydooley**

This comic sums up this attitude nicely:

**juraigamer**

Kids 10 years younger than me are pulling this gak and I still can't find a job, WTF.

**Desubot**

"urine-soaked carpets"
Where these kids raised by wolves or something WTF?

**streamdragon**

cincydooley wrote:This comic sums up this attitude nicely:

Pretty much.

Desubot wrote:"urine-soaked carpets"
Where these kids raised by wolves or something WTF?

Mostly, raised by parents who believe their spawn is somehow more sacred and important than all the other people on the planet. Things must be just so for their spawn, and we can't have anything that might sully their innocent little angel. The phrase "Won't someone think of the children?" has a strength in this generation of parents that borders on psychosis.

Don't get me wrong, parents are supposed to think their kid is amazing and special. Otherwise children wouldn't survive "the terrible twos". But today's feel-good society has done its damnedest to make sure that children are coddled and protected from life.

**Grundz**

KalashnikovMarine wrote:
Grundz you have to have something to settle first. It's very hard to win a lawsuit when you're suing for an individual in the middle of committing a crime.

I must live in some other dimension where you aren't allowed to reveal the identity of adolescent offenders

**streamdragon**

All he did was repost pictures that they themselves put up on the internet. It's not like posted contact information.

**Noir**

Grundz wrote:
KalashnikovMarine wrote:
Grundz you have to have something to settle first. It's very hard to win a lawsuit when you're suing for an individual in the middle of committing a crime.

I must live in some other dimension where you aren't allowed to reveal the identity of adolescent offenders

He can do what every he want with his pictures. He isn't a law enforcement officer or the news.

P.S. Hope there is video, I love to see it on Ridiculousness.

**Dreadclaw69**

streamdragon wrote:
All he did was repost pictures that they themselves put up on the internet. It's not like posted contact information.

And that is the part that I find hilarious. These kids took the pictures themselves and posted them online of them committing trespass, and potential criminal damage. Now their parents are up in arms that their precious darlings are getting in trouble? If the parents put as much effort into raising their kids as they are putting into trying to get off the hook then their kids would not be in trouble.

If I had been caught doing something like that I'd have been marched back to apologise and clean up the mess. If I was really lucky I'd still be here to post about it

The fact that only one kid and parent from the group of 300 had the decency to come and clean up the mess is a sorry state of affairs.

**streamdragon**

Dreadclaw69 wrote:
streamdragon wrote:
All he did was repost pictures that they themselves put up on the internet. It's not like posted contact information.

And that is the part that I find hilarious. These kids took the pictures themselves and posted them online of them committing trespass, and potential criminal damage. Now their parents are up in arms that their precious darlings are getting in trouble? If the parents put as much effort into raising their kids as they are putting into trying to get off the hook then their kids would not be in trouble.

If I had been caught doing something like that I'd have been marched back to apologise and clean up the mess. If I was really lucky I'd still be here to post about it The fact that only one kid and parent from the group of 300 had the decency to come and clean up the mess is a sorry state of affairs.

Not just tresspass and criminal damage, but hard drugs including Meth!

If I was a parent and someone handed me a picture of my kid doing Meth...

**Dreadclaw69**

streamdragon wrote:
If I was a parent and someone handed me a picture of my kid doing Meth...

I'd be calling the cops on them before I killed the kid myself

**daedalus**

Grundz wrote:
KalashnikovMarine wrote:
Grundz you have to have something to settle first. It's very hard to win a lawsuit when you're suing for an individual in the middle of committing a crime.

I must live in some other dimension where you aren't allowed to reveal the identity of adolescent offenders

I didn't read anything about their ages.

Also, THEY posted this information. It's publicly available on their twitter pages. All he did was snap a picture of them hanging by their own ropes.

Automatically Appended Next Post:
Also, I did stupid, questionably legal stuff when I was a youngin, but something of this magnitude would have completely been beyond me.

**xole**

A group B&E and vandilism charge would be nice. Is that just a fine or is that some time in the government hotels?

I think the worst thing I did was kick a shopping cart into a canal. The audacity of this is amazing.

**Grundz**

streamdragon wrote:
All he did was repost pictures that they themselves put up on the internet. It's not like posted contact information.

Dont get me wrong, these kids are idiots and should be taken to the cleaners, all I was stating was that there was a thin enough face that it might actually go to court, which is what the parents would be shooting for, so he would take the cheaper settlement option.

**Ensis Ferrae**

Grundz wrote:
streamdragon wrote:
All he did was repost pictures that they themselves put up on the internet. It's not like posted contact information.

Dont get me wrong, these kids are idiots and should be taken to the cleaners, all I was stating was that there was a thin enough face that it might actually go to court, which is what the parents would be shooting for, so he would take the cheaper settlement option.

Why? I mean, he could easily take them all to the cleaners...I bet if he showed a lawyer what was done to his place, told him how many families were attempting to sue him, the lawyer would probably charge a cheap, flat rate. Then on the other side of that, I'm sure that the judges would probably be be borderline harsh on both the teens and parents of those things.

**Grundz**

Ensis Ferrae wrote:
the lawyer would probably charge a cheap, flat rate.

Wow
You dont know any lawyers do you

**Ensis Ferrae**

Grundz wrote:
Ensis Ferrae wrote:
the lawyer would probably charge a cheap, flat rate.

Wow
You dont know any lawyers do you

A couple... but both are quite literally the most Pro-mIlitary guys I know, so that is going to severely skew their "going rates" in regards to any services that I may need them for.

**timetowaste85**

Grundz wrote:
Ensis Ferrae wrote:
the lawyer would probably charge a cheap, flat rate.

Wow
You dont know any lawyers do you

I think the point, Grundz, is that a lawyer seeing this case sees an easy win, and with so many people becoming involved, a cheap rate on that many actions will garner him far more money than a single case that could become tricky. A lawyer won't want a different lawyer to get the case, as it's like printing your own money, so he's going to make himself as marketable as possible. Economics 101.

**SagesStone**

streamdragon wrote:
All he did was repost pictures that they themselves put up on the internet. It's not like posted contact information.

And thus the true core of the issue arises. Clearly these ~~idiots~~ parents are fierce advocates of copyright protection laws and are merely trying to protect their childrens' property...