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Vanguard27 wrote:

Valkyrie wrote:Page 30 of the Tau Codex: Decoy Launchers are useless as there is no "Glancing Hit Vehicle Damage Table", there is only a "Vehicle Damage Table" which you apply respective modifiers to.

Valk

This was changed in the FAQ

Page 30 - Decoy Launchers

The second sentence should be changed to:

Whenever a glancing hit causes an Immobilized result onto a vehicle, the Tau player may force his opponent to re-roll the dice, and the second result applies.

Actually, the ERRATA changed it.

Big difference!

Gwar! wrote:

Vanguard27 wrote:

Valkyrie wrote:Page 30 of the Tau Codex: Decoy Launchers are useless as there is no "Glancing Hit Vehicle Damage Table", there is only a "Vehicle Damage Table" which you apply respective modifiers to.

Valk

This was changed in the FAQ

Page 30 - Decoy Launchers

The second sentence should be changed to:

Whenever a glancing hit causes an Immobilized result onto a vehicle, the Tau player may force his opponent to re-roll the dice, and the second result applies.

Actually, the ERRATA changed it.

Big difference!

umm, yeah, you and your logic!..

Gotta QFT me to, ehh, no ninja edits for me..


And umm, its 540 AM, I have been up all night... give me a break..

Strictly by RAW wrecked vehicles can still move around and shoot. They effectively become terrain but they don't stop being vehicles. You can even embark back into your now wrecked TerrainTank though you will have to take difficult and dangerous terrain checks to get in. Your vehicle is destroyed and is a wreck but it's still a vehicle by the description of what a wreck is.

Aramoro

Does that mean that it can take further damage? Make a wrecked vehicle explode a turn later. lol

Oshova

I would guess so, I mean if you get Exploded you remove the vehicle from the table, but Wrecked leaves it there. Every time you get wrecked your passengers fall out though so they may not like it that much.

Aramoro

You want to transport 10 Terminators in safety? Take a Land Raider Prometheus from Imperial Armour Apocalypse II.

The datasheet for the Prometheus states that it may transport "10 models". There is no rule limiting the number of Terminators it may carry, therefore it may carry 10, as this would fulfill the circumstances for "10 models"

Valkyrie wrote:You want to transport 10 Terminators in safety? Take a Land Raider Prometheus from Imperial Armour Apocalypse II.

The datasheet for the Prometheus states that it may transport "10 models". There is no rule limiting the number of Terminators it may carry, therefore it may carry 10, as this would fulfill the circumstances for "10 models"

Try reading the Terminator armour rules.

Gwar! wrote:

Valkyrie wrote:You want to transport 10 Terminators in safety? Take a Land Raider Prometheus from Imperial Armour Apocalypse II.

The datasheet for the Prometheus states that it may transport "10 models". There is no rule limiting the number of Terminators it may carry, therefore it may carry 10, as this would fulfill the circumstances for "10 models"

Try reading the Terminator armour rules.

Damm, I thought I had something there

Don't know if this is already on here but according to the apoc book, Hierophant bio-titans and barbed hierodules have a save of 2 and 3 respectively not 2+ and 3+ so there is a 5 in 6 chance they will fail to save the armour saves


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whereas knarlocs have a 6+ i mean WTF

I'm still waiting for the mispront of giving a "6-" save . . . yeah that's right I need to roll 6 or less on one D6 to save my guys =D

Would be hilariously funny . . . and yet incredibly broken in combat or against anything without an AP =p

Oshova

- The Monolith takes hits at the base strength of the unit attacking (so, 4 for a Devastator with a lascannon)

Can anybody please tell me where this is in the necron codex? I've read the Living Metal rule about 5 times and I can't find anywhere where is says this. It just states it ignores lance weapons and you don't get extra armor penetration against it. Because my monoliths frequently get annihilated by TH&SS termies and if there is something that says they can't use the additional str that would be GREAT.

eNvY wrote:

- The Monolith takes hits at the base strength of the unit attacking (so, 4 for a Devastator with a lascannon)

Can anybody please tell me where this is in the necron codex? I've read the Living Metal rule about 5 times and I can't find anywhere where is says this. It just states it ignores lance weapons and you don't get extra armor penetration against it. Because my monoliths frequently get annihilated by TH&SS termies and if there is something that says they can't use the additional str that would be GREAT.

You probably would receive several attacks to the groin for trying that.

Valkyrie wrote:

eNvY wrote:

- The Monolith takes hits at the base strength of the unit attacking (so, 4 for a Devastator with a lascannon)

Can anybody please tell me where this is in the necron codex? I've read the Living Metal rule about 5 times and I can't find anywhere where is says this. It just states it ignores lance weapons and you don't get extra armor penetration against it. Because my monoliths frequently get annihilated by TH&SS termies and if there is something that says they can't use the additional str that would be GREAT.

You probably would receive several attacks to the groin for trying that.

Haha, but where is this rule?

There is no rule anything like that in the Necron book.

MasterSlowPoke wrote:There is no rule anything like that in the Necron book.

Okay, then why is it listed here? In the example of a marine with a lascannon shooting a monolith and having to use his base strength (not the gun).

Because someone didn't know what they were talking about.

eNvY wrote:

MasterSlowPoke wrote:There is no rule anything like that in the Necron book.

Okay, then why is it listed here? In the example of a marine with a lascannon shooting a monolith and having to use his base strength (not the gun).

Because in the example, the marine is not affecting the Monolith, the Lascannon is, and the strength of a Lascannon is 9.

The main rulebook states that when you have a ballistic skill greater than 5, you always hit on a 2+ and get a reroll to hit with the weapon. It states that the reroll to hit needs the "number in italics after the slash". There is a number after the slash, but no number in italics.

eNvY wrote:

- The Monolith takes hits at the base strength of the unit attacking (so, 4 for a Devastator with a lascannon)

Can anybody please tell me where this is in the necron codex? I've read the Living Metal rule about 5 times and I can't find anywhere where is says this. It just states it ignores lance weapons and you don't get extra armor penetration against it. Because my monoliths frequently get annihilated by TH&SS termies and if there is something that says they can't use the additional str that would be GREAT.

Your monoliths shouldn't be being killed by SS/TH terminators anyway as TH gives them S8. That means they can only glance a monolith due to AV14. As when a monolith receives weapon destroyed, it loses one shot (doesn't say anything about minimum modifiers) you can never kill all it's guns to glance kill it.

PK Nobs, strength 9 FTW!

Ok, there aren´t any Spearhead things yet but here´s a thing that lets a Sm list take a Ork Stompa:

Super Heavy Spearhead:
"(Fluff)Super-heavy vehicles such as the Imperial
Baneblade or Ork Stompa are amongst
the most deadly combatants on the
battlefields of the 41st Millennium. Just
one of them can dominate a battlefield.
Although incredibly rare, their presence
can single-handedly spell the difference
between victory or defeat. Because of
their might and nigh-on invulnerability,
super-heavies are often used to
spearhead an assault. Protected by
incredibly thick armour, they shrug off
even heavy weaponry, and they are
armed with batteries of guns that can
level a city block and destroy entire
swathes of enemy troops."

Spearhead Rules:
"One super-heavy vehicle chosen from ANY
Apocalypse datasheet.
Note that you need the Apocalypse Expansion
book in order to use this spearhead."
If you got the WD issue with the spearhead rules then you understand

Space Marine Codex, page 81, first column, near the bottom:

Assault Vehicle: Models disembarking from any access point on a Land Raider can launch an assault on the turn they do so.

So, by this wording, if my Land Raider is hit and suffers a result of Wrecked--Destroyed, as long as my models get out of an access point, they are allowed to launch an assault during my opponent's turn.

No. They can launch an assault, but you have no permission to.

If you use the codex that was uploaded to the GW site, the Daemonhunters now cannot feild an army (as it does not conatin a FOC).

If you use the codex that was uploaded to the GW site, the Daemonhunters now cannot feild an army (as it does not conatin a FOC).

Or does it mean they can just freely select any units they want? So here's my 20 Vindicare assassins...

FlingitNow wrote:

If you use the codex that was uploaded to the GW site, the Daemonhunters now cannot feild an army (as it does not conatin a FOC).

Or does it mean they can just freely select any units they want? So here's my 20 Vindicare assassins...

Assassins are 0-1. Even with no FOC its still 0-1.

FlingitNow wrote:

If you use the codex that was uploaded to the GW site, the Daemonhunters now cannot feild an army (as it does not conatin a FOC).

Or does it mean they can just freely select any units they want? So here's my 20 Vindicare assassins...

Nope-as per the 40k rulebook, "one box on the FOC allows you to make one selection for your army". If there's no FOC, then there are no boxes, so you cannot make any selections.

epic win on the hilarity scale here XD this reminds me of the old BA codex (the pdf one) where none of their vehicles could be gotten into cause they had no access points XD
Oh and if you wanna be quasi realistic, none of the new vehicles can function as there is no mention of crew (thats not a rule thing just a literal thing...)

Irrelevant to the rules, as you say. And if you want 40K info which is irrelevant to the rules you look to Imperial Armour.

There is detailed how many crew, where the seats are, how many cupholders and all manner of other entirely extraneous data.

Scott that's so that you can scratch build a model that you can take panels off and see all the inside detail with hand molded crew etc . . . only to have GW officials drop down from helicopters with flamethrowers to melt down the model.

LMAO!

Oshova