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And that doesn't matter.

Melissia wrote:And that doesn't matter.

Doesn't matter in what sense? In your opinion on the models? We know.

I think it matters quite a bit in whether or not they're likely to make the SoBs less overtly feminine.

GW's failings as a company in a capitalist society are their problem, not mine. I'm just a customer with disposable income who wants them to give me a reason to give them said money.

I actually painted her in a high collared gown and have gotten thumbs up from friends

Kilkrazy wrote:http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/6676/femcombyragathold30wauk.jpg

Female commissar (not drawn by me). Obviously her hat and epaulettes should be a lot bigger.

I think this shows a female character can be clearly female without being sexayfied.

That is a very nice drawing. I don't suppose you remember where you found it?

Deviantart.

The artist is Ragathol.

http://browse.deviantart.com/?order=5&q=Commissar#/d30wauk

There are other lady commissars some of whom are not wearing modest uniforms.

Oh God... we actually hit page 20. When did people here stop listening to me?

Melissia wrote:GW's failings as a company in a capitalist society are their problem, not mine. I'm just a customer with disposable income who wants them to give me a reason to give them said money.

I thought they were doing pretty well financially in the last year or so, no?

But you're absolutely right, if you don't like the models, you probably shouldn't purchase them. I, for example, dislike Terminator helmets. Thus I don't use Terminators, nor do I buy any.

Where's that female commissar available? I like it

Melissia wrote:
Click on thumbnail for full image.

Best quality image I could find, but yeah, she's seriously a single hard bounce from them popping out of that dress

It used to be available as an IG collector's model. Could still be there.

I like the current miniatures.

And I also think they are quite nicely balanced between "sexiness" and military might.

Yes, they have tits, but they are hardly monstrous, nor do they form the focal point of the models (hope this doesn't prompt another bout of "male gaze" rhetoric).

No need to tone the sexiness down or up, I think GW got it right first time.

I believe it's an old Gamesday model. 99? maybe 98

Ah. No hope for finding one then

Nice model though. Looks like 3rd edition to me. Look at that tiny laspistol!

Well, ebay lists 5 for $40 and up so. They exist, just for alot.

Kilkrazy wrote:I think this shows a female character can be clearly female without being sexayfied.

But where's her corset?

BloodQuest wrote:

Kilkrazy wrote:I think this shows a female character can be clearly female without being sexayfied.

But where's her corset?

Her hips do seem a bit exaggerated though, which to some, could be just as "sexy" as chesty armor.

Melissia wrote:GW's failings as a company in a capitalist society are their problem, not mine. I'm just a customer with disposable income who wants them to give me a reason to give them said money.

Again, in their view you don't matter. Their target audience is not you, or frankly me.

Frazzled wrote:

Melissia wrote:GW's failings as a company in a capitalist society are their problem, not mine. I'm just a customer with disposable income who wants them to give me a reason to give them said money.

Again, in their view you don't matter. Their target audience is not you, or frankly me.

Don't they know that the keeper of the Wiener Dog Armada must be appeased?

H.B.M.C. wrote:Oh God... we actually hit page 20. When did people here stop listening to me?

*tumbleweed skips by*

Monster Rain wrote:

Frazzled wrote:

Melissia wrote:GW's failings as a company in a capitalist society are their problem, not mine. I'm just a customer with disposable income who wants them to give me a reason to give them said money.

Again, in their view you don't matter. Their target audience is not you, or frankly me.

Don't they know that the keeper of the Wiener Dog Armada must be appeased?

They mistakenly believe an ocean will protect them. Clearly they have not heard of the new Cthulu Weiner legion alliance.

mrwhoop wrote:I believe it's an old Gamesday model. 99? maybe 98

It was. Then it was on the online store for a good long while. That is how I picked one up.

I can't check GW from work, but as I said before, it could be under the Collector's section.

eBay sellers love to exaggerate the rarity of their stuff.
You can find Malus Darkblade on Spite listed as RARE OOP!!!.
But I just got one direct from GW a month ago.

skrulnik wrote:

mrwhoop wrote:I believe it's an old Gamesday model. 99? maybe 98

It was. Then it was on the online store for a good long while. That is how I picked one up.

I can't check GW from work, but as I said before, it could be under the Collector's section.

Didn't find it right now.

GW only recently pulled out to make a profit, and even then only because of licensed works from what I understand.

Frazzled wrote:Again, in their view you don't matter. Their target audience is not you, or frankly me.

Which is a failing of the company, not the customers, so I don't see why it needs to be continually brought up.

Frazzled wrote:

Melissia wrote:GW's failings as a company in a capitalist society are their problem, not mine. I'm just a customer with disposable income who wants them to give me a reason to give them said money.

Again, in their view you don't matter. Their target audience is not you, or frankly me.

Then again, one might see some bones thrown (even very expensive ones, or ones by 3rd parties) if it's something that looks like might have customers. Even if those aren't exactly the main target for most of the product. At any rate it's hardly unreasonable to give an opinion on something you don't like or want to see an alternative to.

Melissia wrote:GW only recently pulled out to make a profit, and even then only because of licensed works from what I understand.

Frazzled wrote:Again, in their view you don't matter. Their target audience is not you, or frankly me.

Which is a failing of the company, not the customers, so I don't see why it needs to be continually brought up.

Its not a failing. Thats business. If a a business tried to cater to everyone, they would cater to no one.
They are catering to their customers. You're not necesssarily one of their customers. Again, neither am I.


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Chongara wrote:

Frazzled wrote:

Melissia wrote:GW's failings as a company in a capitalist society are their problem, not mine. I'm just a customer with disposable income who wants them to give me a reason to give them said money.

Again, in their view you don't matter. Their target audience is not you, or frankly me.

Then again, one might see some bones thrown (even very expensive ones, or ones by 3rd parties) if it's something that looks like might have customers. Even if those aren't exactly the main target for most of the product. At any rate it's hardly unreasonable to give an opinion on something you don't like or want to see an alternative to.

True but presumption that your opinion means anything or is any way prepresentative of a larger opinion is...misplaced.

Asking them to cater to more than just a single, relatively small demographic does not equate to "catering to everyone".

Frazzled wrote:True but presumption that your opinion means anything or is any way prepresentative of a larger opinion is...misplaced.

That's right children, dreams can and will be crushed in an instant.

Melissia wrote:Asking them to cater to more than just a single, relatively small demographic does not equate to "catering to everyone".

Dude all of gaming-fantasy, historical, blah blah is a microscopic demographic. One big Walmart store makes more than GW. One Sams Club probably makes more than the whole segment.

Again, you're assuming you make up a demographic. You don't. You're one person. Just like I am one person. Whether or not we agree with their products or marketing, we don't matter.

You'll find thats a true statement about most everything in life. You will not be missed.

Chongara wrote:

Frazzled wrote:

Melissia wrote:GW's failings as a company in a capitalist society are their problem, not mine. I'm just a customer with disposable income who wants them to give me a reason to give them said money.

Again, in their view you don't matter. Their target audience is not you, or frankly me.

Then again, one might see some bones thrown (even very expensive ones, or ones by 3rd parties) if it's something that looks like might have customers. Even if those aren't exactly the main target for most of the product. At any rate it's hardly unreasonable to give an opinion on something you don't like or want to see an alternative to.

I suspect if they thought it would make them truckloads of money, they would do it. They're a business first and foremost.

However, bearing in mind what their target audience is, I doubt we'll see much in the way of concessions to the sort of alleged realism presented in this thread.

Melissia wrote:Asking them to cater to more than just a single, relatively small demographic does not equate to "catering to everyone".

I think the relatively small demographic of GW's customers is the people that have a problem with the Sisters of Battle models.

Medium of Death wrote:

Frazzled wrote:True but presumption that your opinion means anything or is any way prepresentative of a larger opinion is...misplaced.

That's right children, dreams can and will be crushed in an instant.

Why they don't teach that to kids on the first day of Kindergarten I'll never understand. All this business about hope and dreams just sets them up for disappointment.