New SM Codex: Legion of the Damned!?

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**Ferrum_Sanguinis**

From 40k Radio via Natfka:

http://natfka.blogspot.com/2014/02/wd-leaked-image-of-codex-legion-of.html

I never thought I would see this. Pleasantly surprised...

**SickSix**

Yup, this came out in the pictures of the Knight thread.

I'm almost tempted to buy a used iPad just to get that.

However, the history of these digital releases tempers my hopes a fair degree. (ie. the actual rules)

***edit***

Also people are freaking out because it's labeled a codex. Seriously, it's going to be like I page of rules and a bunch of recycled fluff. (or they will go full GW and retcon the current fluff again lol)

If we are lucky they may be allowed to take 0-1 dreads like the Chapter Approved list.

**Yodhrin**

SickSix wrote:
Yup, this came out in the pictures of the Knight thread.

I'm almost tempted to buy a used iPad just to get that.

However, the history of these digital releases tempers my hopes a fair degree. (ie. the actual rules)

***edit***

Also people are freaking out because it's labeled a codex. Seriously, it's going to be like I page of rules and a bunch of recycled fluff. (or they will go full GW and retcon the current fluff again lol)

If we are lucky they may be allowed to take 0-1 dreads like the Chapter Approved list.

I'm not even sure it's going to have an army list as-such, the only actual reference to rules on the leaked WD page talks about rules for using Legionnaires as allies to any Imperial army and some scenarios. This could be as limited as "may take as Battle Brothers for IG, SW, BR, DA etc, see Codex: Space Marines for stats, equipment, and points cost".

**Ferrum_Sanguinis**

If they allow LotD to be taken as troop choices my wallet's not gonna be happy...

**Azreal13**

I wouldn't get hugely excited.

Reading between the lines, I think we have another Codex Inquisition, in that it will have a limited number of units and all the codex will really do is expand who is eligible to take them.

Might be a good read for fluff purposes for fans, but I don't think it will allow a LotD army.

**SickSix**

No it clearly states 'allies'. No 'army'. They don't have the figures to do that and we all know GW no longer makes rules for stuff they don't physically make.

But, they do sell characters, troops and special weapon infantry. So you could use a LotD sergeant as an HQ and fill a couple troop slots.

Or maybe they will have their own ally FOC where you can just take 1-3 squads of LotD.

**Brother SRM**

Yeah, this is on par with Codex: Inquisition or whatever it was called. Just a teeny little ally expansion.

**BrookM**

But hopefully packed with fluff, just like the Farsight Enclave.

**Absolutionis**

Aren't all the LotD models in their finecast that's supposedly being phased out?

Oh well. Another Imperial release for the Imperials alongside the Knights.

**Kroothawk**

Absolutionis wrote:
Aren't all the LotD models in their finecast that's supposedly being phased out?

Sororitas are mostly metal. Didn't stop them to charge for a supposedly full Codex.

**Slayer le boucher**

i Would rather have a 21st Founding Codex then a mere LotD codex personnaly, like in the WD 260 Chapter Aproved, i really liked the Black Dragons and the Minautors.

Oh look!, i've found the old 21st Founding rules!, when i look at it, there isn't much work to do, to make it 6Th Ed compatible...

http://redelf.narod.ru/w40k/ia/w40k_ia_cf_0.html

**H.B.M.C.**

I'm actually hopeful this one (unlike the Inquisition one, where I knew it'd be terrible). I want them to add a little more ambiguity into the Legion of the Damned. Just having them as diseased Fire Hawks was always boring.

**SickSix**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
I'm actually hopeful this one (unlike the Inquisition one, where I knew it'd be terrible). I want them to add a little more ambiguity into the Legion of the Damned. Just having them as diseased Fire Hawks was always boring.

Yup. That was kind of boring and killed the mystery.

I prefer to think the LotD are a collection of marines throughout the history of the Imperium.

**BrianDavion**

Absolutionis wrote:
Aren't all the LotD models in their finecast that's supposedly being phased out?

Oh well. Another Imperial release for the Imperials alongside the Knights.

Makes one wonder if they're gonna be releasing a plastic LotD box in the near future. this would be kinda cool, and I think might even be a fun source of bits of chaos too

**Eldarain**

It might be partially an effort to clear out all the Finecast ones they've already made. Similar to the motivation in releasing Cypher's slate I would think.

**Azreal13**

bu11etmagn3tt wrote:
here is pic

I think, at this point, I'm going to gently ban you from posting pics in threads until you can do it the right way up!

**Azazelx**

SickSix wrote:
No it clearly states 'allies'. No 'army'. They don't have the figures to do that and we all know GW no longer makes rules for stuff they don't physically make.

But, they do sell characters, troops and special weapon infantry. So you could use a LotD sergeant as an HQ and fill a couple troop slots.

Or maybe they will have their own ally FOC where you can just take 1-3 squads of LotD.

They do have multi-meltas and heavy flamers as well as several/most of the previous lot of special weapons (ie, no grav guns). They could potentially make some form of devastator squad, and they have previously made Heavy Bolters, all of the older special weapons, sgts with all kinds of options, etc.

hmm..

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?prodId=prod2090143a

The Legion Ascendant
Of all the legends of the Imperium, one of the strangest is that of the Legion of the Damned. Their aspect is terrifying in the extreme, ghostly apparitions from some bygone era or perhaps a time yet to come. Appearing amidst the enemy in a scouring blast of spectral flame, the Damned Legionnaires' very presence evokes unreasoning horror while their every shot is a fiery bolt of judgement, turning flesh to scattered ash.

This One-Click Collection contains all you need to field The Legion Ascendant Apocalypse Formation. It includes: 1 set of Damned Legionnaires (1); 2 sets of Damned Legionnaires (2); 1 Legion of the Damned Squad; 1 Legionnaire with multi-melta; 1 Damned Sergeant with Bolt Pistol and Power Weapon; and 1 Legionnaire with Heavy Flamer.

Apocalypse Formations are collections of miniatures drawn from the background of the Warhammer 40,000 universe. Should you wish to field this Apocalypse Formation in a game, its details can be found on page 268 of the Warhammer 40,000: Apocalypse book.

These kits come unpainted and require assembly - we recommend using Citadel Super Glue and Citadel Paints.

Availability: Usually ships within 24 hours. Part Code: 99020101032

It's an Apoc formation, but shy of new plastic kits - which I would not expect, they may simply be allowing this in normal games of 40k.

**quickfuze**

Im soooooooo giddy for this....I own 70 of these guys and have been running them just as vanilla marines (with usual stuff, stormraven, scouts etc.)

**MrMoustaffa**

Interested to see what their new potential background stories might be. I like that they hinted "these are all speculation, no one really knows where they came from."

**jonolikespie**

MrMoustaffa wrote:
Interested to see what their new potential background stories might be. I like that they hinted "these are all speculation, no one really knows where they came from."

A series of Inquisitorial reports trying to reconstruct incidents from eye witnesses and the like, speculating about the events and trying to decipher the fact from fiction could be amazing. It won't be though, it'll probably just be the same stuff that's been in the last couple of marine codexs and a little bit of new stuff.

**Alkasyn**

The old edition stuff posted seems like it could be fun in friendly games, I wonder what will be released for the 50 or so USD by GW.

**H.B.M.C.**

jonolikespie wrote:
A series of Inquisitorial reports trying to reconstruct incidents from eye witnesses and the like, speculating about the events and trying to decipher the fact from fiction could be amazing. It won't be though, it'll probably just be the same stuff that's been in the last couple of marine codexs and a little bit of new stuff.

Or it'll be several sections explaining their history and their combat doctrine, followed by a timeline, like every other book.

But I like your idea better.

**Pariah-Miniatures**

Well I am hoping they include the character Sergent Centurius, I want that mystical skull wielding dude back in action!

**jonolikespie**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
jonolikespie wrote:
A series of Inquisitorial reports trying to reconstruct incidents from eye witnesses and the like, speculating about the events and trying to decipher the fact from fiction could be amazing. It won't be though, it'll probably just be the same stuff that's been in the last couple of marine codexs and a little bit of new stuff.

Or it'll be several sections explaining their history and their combat doctrine, followed by a timeline, like every other book.

But I like your idea better.

Well I kinda meant it would follow the same pattern as a regular dex but it would be phrased as 'The first confirmed report of activity by the so called 'Leagion of the Damned' was at X on Y date blah blah' followed by the timeline which has the usual stuff but [unconfirmed], [suspected] or [confirmed by Chapter Master X] after it. Not entirely breaking the mold but still different.

**ZebioLizard2**

And yet still no word on Supplements or allies for anyone else.

**Kroothawk**

Here is the link to the leaked WD pic:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-n-s0EgRQbj4/Uv9ywh5f90I/AAAAAAAANnk/ElXVbntw4Bo/s1600/1623611_657940650908460_1752595279_n.jpg

**Troike**

SickSix wrote:
No it clearly states 'allies'. No 'army'.

Though it is also a codex, which makes me think that they can be fielded alone too. The Inquisition codex was the same, having a very limited range of units but still being allowed to be played on its own. So it could be some LotD units along with some vehicles. Though I'd imagine that, like the Inquisition codex, it's meant more as an allies codex than a standalone codex.

Kroothawk wrote:
Didn't stop them to charge for a supposedly full Codex.

The codex itself was full. What was lacking was a model release.

**nels1031**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
I'm actually hopeful this one (unlike the Inquisition one, where I knew it'd be terrible). I want them to add a little more ambiguity into the Legion of the Damned. Just having them as diseased Fire Hawks was always boring.

The Fire Hawks part was always just a theory though, wasn't it?

What it took from the recent Black Library shorts on the LotD :

Spoiler:

Hopefully we both get some LotD fluff that satisfies!

**1hadhq**

Brother SRM wrote:
Yeah, this is on par with Codex: Inquisition or whatever it was called. Just a teeny little ally expansion.

+1

Can't we have something that isn't so special they hide it behind bits&bytes ?

**shade1313**

Happy dance!