IG/Astra Militarum Rumours for April (first post updated 12th April)

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**Swastakowey**

in the original photo I thought the battery thing was his hand... thankfully thats not right. But I like him. I also like the changes to the sash colour. Nice to see variety. Especially bright colours.

At the end of the day, he comes plastic so sash colour shouldnt effect the opinion of the model.

**TheKbob**

Basically, here's what the new IG will be:

Spam Psykers + Inquisitors. Stack barrage weapons/russes. Fish for Misfortune, debuff deathstars, and flatten them with divination buffed character sniping.

**Swastakowey**

My griffons are now gone too. But I can just use it as a "cluster ammunition" sci fi rubisshyness gun until I get a conversion going.

**thekingofdinner**

Inquisitor Jex wrote:

DOCTRINES..are a lie. The only thing bearing the doctrines name is in the Tempestus army book, and it's only a fancy name given to the Tempestus orders (for flavour really)

you mean aside from 'the squad may choose any of the following doctrines' grenadiers - 15, forward sentries - 10, demolitions - 30 thing that I'm looking at in the veteran squad page right now?

**schadenfreude**

I used 3 german 88s to convert a griffon and 2 thudd guns. For the thudd guns I sawed off the barrel and replaced it with a quad barrel. I have some spare basilisk hulls and am just going to model wyverns as a single quad barreled mortar.

**MajorWesJanson**

thekingofdinner wrote:
Inquisitor Jex wrote:

DOCTRINES..are a lie. The only thing bearing the doctrines name is in the Tempestus army book, and it's only a fancy name given to the Tempestus orders (for flavour really)

you mean aside from 'the squad may choose any of the following doctrines' grenadiers - 15, forward sentries - 10, demolitions - 30 thing that I'm looking at in the veteran squad page right now?

Semantics aside, some people wanted doctrines like in the 3.5 Edition codex to return. And they haven't.

**H.B.M.C.**

Swastakowey wrote:
My griffons are now gone too.

I guess this is what it feels like to be a Tyranid player.

Wait...

I am a Tyranid player!!!

**thekingofdinner**

MajorWesJanson wrote:
thekingofdinner wrote:
Inquisitor Jex wrote:

DOCTRINES..are a lie. The only thing bearing the doctrines name is in the Tempestus army book, and it's only a fancy name given to the Tempestus orders (for flavour really)

you mean aside from 'the squad may choose any of the following doctrines' grenadiers - 15, forward sentries - 10, demolitions - 30 thing that I'm looking at in the veteran squad page right now?

Semantics aside, some people wanted doctrines like in the 3.5 Edition codex to return. And they haven't.

I know, just feeling a bit pedantic right now.

**General Hobbs**

No Solar Macharius :(

**MajorWesJanson**

General Hobbs wrote:

No Solar Macharius :(

Or Gaunt or Schaffer.

**H.B.M.C.**

What about Chenkov and Al'Rahem?

**Vaktathi**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
What about Chenkov and Al'Rahem?

200% gone.

**Ashiraya**

I don't like the new Commissar.

His proportions are wacky. Seriously, how large are those hats going to get?

**maceria**

The hat is the source of his authority.

**Javin**

Awesome!

**H.B.M.C.**

Vaktathi wrote:
What about Chenkov and Al'Rahem?

200% gone.

**Slinky**

Anyone know how Commissars are now bought, please? Are they separate and assigned to squads, or still the old way?

Cheers

**AllSeeingSkink**

Is the Leman Russ Executioner a typical "Gets Hot" or does it have special rule saying you only roll once for it?

Looking at the reference sheet there's no additional rules stated for the Executioner beyond Gets Hot.

If you have to roll 3 times each time it fires... ouch... that's a 23% chance of giving yourself a glancing hit each turn and 35% if you also took sponsons.

**schadenfreude**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
Vaktathi wrote:
What about Chenkov and Al'Rahem?
200% gone.

So they didn't just change our name, they gutted our Codex.

This is Great™ News™!

**AllSeeingSkink**

Slinky wrote:
Anyone know how Commissars are now bought, please? Are they separate and assigned to squads, or still the old way?

Cheers

Lord Commissars are a HQ choice.

Regular Commissars are a HQ choice, but they don't use up a FOC slot and do no qualify for the mandatory HQ selection. You can take 1 Commissar per CCS and 1 per PCS, then after determining Warlord traits, you attach them to a unit, which they then cannot leave.

**Slinky**

Thanks!

**Perfect Organism**

Do Primaris Psykers still come with refractor fields and force weapons as standard? Is their statline still the same as it was?

**AllSeeingSkink**

Pask is 70pts total rather than 40pts (was confused about that). You buy a Tank commander for 30pts, then upgrade him to Pask for another 40pts.

**Yodhrin**

Oh god damnit GW, all you had to do to keep me at "grudging acceptance" level was not feth up Straken, but you couldn't even manage that *sigh*

**MajorWesJanson**

Red__Thirst wrote:
Only thing I'm still mildly annoyed with is the removal of the Griffon Mortar (as well as the Colossus and Medusa) because I have two I spent a good long while painting and converting up for use using the old school GW Griffon kit bits.

I spent a fair amount of money on them both, each one clocking in at over 70 dollars for the Chimera, and then finding the old school Griffon Mortars bits to use for them. So thats ~$140.00 worth of models that aren't in the codex, though, I can still use them technically, assuming the person I'm playing doesn't mind me using I.A. Vol.1 rules for them, but it's still frustrating none the less.

Overall, I'm pleased with the codex, Nothing massively upsetting, just trying to get a feel for it right now.

That's all I've got at the moment. Take it easy fellas.

-Red__Thirst-

For griffons, either use them with the IA book, or use them as Wyrvens with "cluster rounds"

Is there some way to block any post that includes "word™word™" ?
It's not funny or witty, just stupid.

**AllSeeingSkink**

Yeah, I can't see any rules saying the Executioner has a special version of Gets Hot, it simply Gets Hot... that means you have to roll for EACH shot fired... pretty suicidal if you ask me!

**Kelly502**

I love plasma guns! Woot! My Plasma guns always get hot because, my dice hate me...

**Maxurugi**

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
Yeah, I can't see any rules saying the Executioner has a special version of Gets Hot, it simply Gets Hot... that means you have to roll for EACH shot fired... pretty suicidal if you ask me!

But on the other hand, losing three shots because of a single "Gets hot!" result would'nt be cool either.

**AllSeeingSkink**

Maxurugi wrote:
AllSeeingSkink wrote:
Yeah, I can't see any rules saying the Executioner has a special version of Gets Hot, it simply Gets Hot... that means you have to roll for EACH shot fired... pretty suicidal if you ask me!

But on the other hand, losing three shots because of a single "Gets hot!" result would'nt be cool either.

Yeah, but 3 gets hot rolls means a 21% chance of causing 1 HP of damage to yourself and 2% chance of causing 2 HP of damage. You have the same chance of losing the shots but not causing a HP as well. That's way too high IMO for a tank that costs 155pts and will probably be heavily targeted by the enemy.

If the tank has rerolls to hit, then it is only 5% chance of causing a HP of damage, so roughly once every 20 turns, not nearly as bad, but it feels a bit like Tyranids eating themselves with their instinctive behaviour if they aren't being babysat.

**Kroothawk**

Red__Thirst wrote:
Only thing I'm still mildly annoyed with is the removal of the Griffon Mortar (as well as the Colossus and Medusa) because I have two I spent a good long while painting and converting up for use using the old school GW Griffon kit bits.

So this is the second main Codex in a row reducing the options (after Tyranids).
Announcing a new Codex has become a threat.
First time GW legal has won!