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 LunarSol wrote:
War Dogs losing Battleline is definitely interesting.

Unless you take the all Wardog Detachment, which I assume will be the most played.

 Lathe Biosas wrote:

 LunarSol wrote:
War Dogs losing Battleline is definitely interesting.

Unless you take the all Wardog Detachment, which I assume will be the most played.

Yup, unless they actually make the other detachments good or make the wardog detachment very bad.

I'm kinda happy the IK codex isn't out yet. Hopefully, the Chaos Knight nerfs will unleash a bunch of teeth-gnashing anger that will make the powers that be rethink their decisions.

Eh, thus far all the changes seem healthy. Knights being cheaper and more killable is a plus in my book for both sides.

 LunarSol wrote:
War Dogs losing Battleline is definitely interesting.

I must be blind but where does it state in the article that Wardogs no longer have the Battleline keyword? I don't doubt it as it says for the Houndpack Lance...

War Dog units from your army have the Battleline keyword.

...so they must lose it to then gain it, but just curious where it's stated.

SamusDrake wrote:

 LunarSol wrote:
War Dogs losing Battleline is definitely interesting.

I must be blind but where does it state in the article that Wardogs no longer have the Battleline keyword? I don't doubt it as it says for the Houndpack Lance...

War Dog units from your army have the Battleline keyword.

...so they must lose it to then gain it, but just curious where it's stated.

It isn't, its just strongly implied.

I see.

Oh, the Knight combat patrols - previously in White Dwarf - are now available as pdf downloads. Been there for a few days already...

 LunarSol wrote:

 Lathe Biosas wrote:

 LunarSol wrote:
War Dogs losing Battleline is definitely interesting.

Unless you take the all Wardog Detachment, which I assume will be the most played.

Yup, unless they actually make the other detachments good or make the wardog detachment very bad.

The War Dog detachment could be the worst Detachment in the book and it'll still be the most used because Bigs suck in 10th due to how scoring and that works. It speaks volumes that the ComPat requires rules to play an entirely different game from other armies.

 Lathe Biosas wrote:
I'm kinda happy the IK codex isn't out yet. Hopefully, the Chaos Knight nerfs will unleash a bunch of teeth-gnashing anger that will make the powers that be rethink their decisions.

Well, certainly not in time to change anything for the Codex release. They'd have to day-1-patch the whole thing.

Until we start seeing actual unit profiles and points, it's hard to call anything we've seen thus far a buff or a nerf (aside from the apparent loss of 'Battleline' on War Dogs).

Dataslate Updates

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/bk58priy/the-warhammer-40000-balance-dataslate-june-2025/

And Quarterly Detachments

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/qdz5ukjz/quarterly-detachments-new-rules-for-the-chaos-space-marines-dark-angels-and-tyranids/

Munitorum Field Manual:
https://assets.warhammer-community.com/eng_4-zbpu5ror0b.pdf

Tournament Companion was updated. I guess they added new units and their base sizes. Not sure what else changed:
https://assets.warhammer-community.com/eng_4-xglmycxyvf.pdf

Captain Centos.

Bonus image of Valrak, where a fart quite possibly came with a prize.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Captain Centos.

Bonus image of Valrak, where a fart quite possibly came with a prize.

Perfect visualisation there

And community post is up. This one looks like "We have Pedro Kantor at home".

Wow, and I was just saying to my friends today, "You know what 40k needs right now, more than anything? Another Ultramarine."

 Quixote wrote:
Wow, and I was just saying to my friends today, "You know what 40k needs right now, more than anything? Another Ultramarine."

It's painted as an Ultramarine but he's just a generic captain with no chapter specific markings.

 Shadox wrote:
And community post is up. This one looks like "We have Pedro Kantor at home".

If I get my hands on one, he's definitely going Crimson Fist.

NEED.
The original Captain with Terminator Honours has always been one of my favorite models.

Did noone get to the end of Valraks video basically saying Pedro was coming?

Looks like Kill Team Terminus is going to be up for preorder next week, as the Servitor Battleclade and updated Ravenor rules are also up in the downloads section.

Raveners went up to 5 models per unit (rather than 3-6) and the Kill Team is a separate unit who lose the ability to burrow back down and into Deep Strike reserves, but get anti-monster/vehicle 5+ on their close combat attacks, sustained hits and the option to use rapid ingress or heroic intervention for 0CP (and if already used this turn).

Servitors get Heavy Arc, Heavy Bolter, optional melta gun and optional 3 'flamers'. BS4+, but can advance or shoot and do actions if accompanied by a techpriest (their underboss counts as one).

Wonder what the new ravener dataslate means for those of us with 3 man units…

They brought the Trygon Prime back!

 Nevelon wrote:
Wonder what the new ravener dataslate means for those of us with 3 man units…

You're out of luck, please buy more.

That said here's some chaos knight unit profiles:

https://imgur.com/a/ck-leaks-2025-G120sJS



Executioners still suck.

 Nevelon wrote:
Wonder what the new ravener dataslate means for those of us with 3 man units…

It means either

1) You pay 125 points for 3 models and accept it because that's how points are now

2) You buy more raveners ^^


Also interesting that they are splitting Raveners into two profiles



Ohh and it also means that new Killteam kit for them should be around the corner for release!

 Nevelon wrote:
Wonder what the new ravener dataslate means for those of us with 3 man units…

Time to use some of those spare ripper bases to make some 'underground raveners'!

Interestingly the Kill team raveners are a command squad and can attach to regular raveners for squads of 10.

Yup, new statline lines up with what we saw in the Christmas battleforce.

 Tastyfish wrote:

 Nevelon wrote:
Wonder what the new ravener dataslate means for those of us with 3 man units…

Time to use some of those spare ripper bases to make some 'underground raveners'!

That’s a great idea. Some spare heads and talons ripping up from the ground.

Obviously might get some MFA flack, but if someone has an issue, you can swap models around in the unit as needed, and just kill them off first.

The new dataslate doesn't replace the current Ravenor slate, its an 'addon' unit so the 3 man unit can have these guys slotted in as a leader option. Not familiar with nid list building so not sure how good they will be, but on paper it looks like quite a good addition.

warl0rdb0b wrote:
The new dataslate doesn't replace the current Ravenor slate, its an 'addon' unit so the 3 man unit can have these guys slotted in as a leader option. Not familiar with nid list building so not sure how good they will be, but on paper it looks like quite a good addition.

The Kill team one doesn't, but the basic one almost certainly will. They've also lost their thorax weapons, so it's possible that the 3 man units will end up in legends as "Raveners with thorax weapons"

Dudeface wrote:

 Nevelon wrote:
Wonder what the new ravener dataslate means for those of us with 3 man units…

You're out of luck, please buy more.

That said here's some chaos knight unit profiles:

https://imgur.com/a/ck-leaks-2025-G120sJS

Spoiler:

Executioners still suck.

I don't get it; if you're gonna spoil half the cards, why not spoil the other half too?!