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CthuluIsSpy wrote:

Royoken wrote:Any idea if scarabs will be released in wave 2?

(searched, not finding anything)

There are 3 bases worth in the Warriors Boxed Set.

Indeed, i'm splitting the ones i have on to extra 40mm bases.

What i'd like to know is if there will be a release of just scarabs.

Royoken wrote:What i'd like to know is if there will be a release of just scarabs.

That would just be too convenient. I think it's more likely that they'll include Scarab bases with the new Canoptek Spyders whenever those are released...but I assume it'll be 1 base/Spyder if anything. Scarabs seem likely to be doomed to "DE Blaster" or "IG Meltagun" territory. We need a lot of them, GW makes buying them in quantity impossible (except at a great cost).

Scarabs can be found in pictures and to be honest, the new art still makes them look alot like they were. Not like the spiders, they are tottaly changed!

Also what are the thoughts on the monoliths these days?

Anyone else think the Necrons are the perfect force for an all plastic character kit?

Say a court box of 5 with options to create lords, Crypteks with any of the codex options?

The Immortal/Deathmark and Preatorian/Lychguard boxes are fantastic in their interchangeability.
I could really see another plastic kit that can make multiple characters.

Also, I fully expect the Doom and Night Scythes to be one kit, as well as a 3-pack for Wraiths/Spyders.

The new art for Spyders and Wraiths really shows a commonality that could be done easily.

whigwam wrote:

Royoken wrote:What i'd like to know is if there will be a release of just scarabs.

That would just be too convenient..

I suppose it would be too convenient :(

Have to go find another way to scrounge some up!

skrulnik wrote:Anyone else think the Necrons are the perfect force for an all plastic character kit?

Say a court box of 5 with options to create lords, Crypteks with any of the codex options?

The Immortal/Deathmark and Preatorian/Lychguard boxes are fantastic in their interchangeability.
I could really see another plastic kit that can make multiple characters.

Also, I fully expect the Doom and Night Scythes to be one kit, as well as a 3-pack for Wraiths/Spyders.

The new art for Spyders and Wraiths really shows a commonality that could be done easily.

Doom and Night scythes = definitly one box!

a court box seems a bit odd, as there is a finecast cryptek already. Yet It would be something really intresting! but GW probably all wants us to buy finecast lords and crypteks...

Royoken wrote:I suppose it would be too convenient :(

Have to go find another way to scrounge some up!

Second-hand market will be your best bet, but there's a lot of people looking for them right now. I've been watching a few Scarab auctions on eBay for awhile...saw 9 bases go for $60 the other day. I expect $5-$8/base will be the standard price for awhile. Not great, but I guess it beats buying boxes of Warriors...

skrulnik wrote:Anyone else think the Necrons are the perfect force for an all plastic character kit?

Say a court box of 5 with options to create lords, Crypteks with any of the codex options?

The Immortal/Deathmark and Preatorian/Lychguard boxes are fantastic in their interchangeability.
I could really see another plastic kit that can make multiple characters.

Also, I fully expect the Doom and Night Scythes to be one kit, as well as a 3-pack for Wraiths/Spyders.

The new art for Spyders and Wraiths really shows a commonality that could be done easily.

YES! It is completely possible.

Overlords - CCB

Court - A mix between praetorian and deathmark parts.

EDIT: Oh Derp, I misunderstood the post. No, sadly I can not see an all plastic kit for the court being done, as they are already out in finecast.
However you CAN make your own. See above ^^

Wraith/Spyders yes, The Scythes yes as well. I can totally see those in multi-part plastic kits.

CthuluIsSpy wrote:

YES! It is completely possible.

Overlords - CCB

Court - A mix between praetorian and deathmark parts.

^ this is how it's done! xD

They should have made crypteks plastic. They have a massive amount of options and you can take like 5

A Cryptek box done like the Empire Wizard box would be great.

Mewiththeface wrote:They should have made crypteks plastic. They have a massive amount of options and you can take like 5

Agree completely. And you can actually take a total of 10 if you've got two Overlords.

If you have the storm lord in a group with chrono-cryptek, can you re-roll steal initiative?

Yes, I think so though People may argue that because its not on a turn per-say you can't use the ability.

masterofstuff1 wrote:If you have the storm lord in a group with chrono-cryptek, can you re-roll steal initiative?

I'd have to say no because it is not a roll that the cryptek or it's unit is doing. The stormlord simply modifies what is necessary to roll for stealing the initiative, but that unit is not making any rolls.

You can't reroll it because the Chronometron allows one reroll per phase. The roll to seize happens before any game phases.

H.B.M.C. wrote:A Cryptek box done like the Empire Wizard box would be great.

As you've said before, they should to this with several WH40k models:

Warboss (plus Warbike)
Big Mek (with KFF and Oilers)
Archon
Haemonculous
Necron Lord (although the one on the Command Barge is pretty good, he doesn't have any options)
Cryptek
Hive Tyrant

Even though you only need one or two of these models for any army, I think people would buy them by the ton.

Plus those kits are usually great for additional parts even if you weren't building that specific model. I've got 3 Marine Commanders and... let me think... 4 of the plastic Chaos Terminator Lords. I've also purchased bitz from both those kits a few times over for various other conversions (a good quarter of my Deathwatch army has as least one part from the commander kit).

Some of these things (Big Mek springs to mind) could be done via single-frame plastic miniatures, like the current trend in Fantasy (which I love, and encourage, and celebrate as about the only good thing GW have done for the hobby and the HHHobby this year). Others, lik the Warboss, Necron Lord, Cryptek would be good as fully fledged kits.

Agreed on the usefulness of the character kits. I've bought at least 7 or 8 Marine Commanders, and probably more. I'd have bought even more Warbosse kits if they were available. I hope we do see the WHFB-style one sprue models for WH40k. I suspect it's GW's long term goal to pretty much replace single models with these.

And that's a good thing. There can't be any complaints about FailCost if they stop making them and replace them with plastic.

finished up my hybrid warrior/lychguard mashup. Unfortunately the chest pieces of the warriors don't match up quite right (but still work well enough) and the arm socket parts aren't the same size (but again, it will work). The only down side is that there are no left arms left if you also built praetorians (like I did) so I had to scavange the left arms from the warriors as well, and the arms are much shorter than what they're supposed to be. So, the scale is just a smidge off on the right to left arm but all in all I think it worked well enough.

Oh, I did however forget that warriors came in sprues of 4 (I only had one sprue randomly) so I had to use the back of one of the warriors as the front of the lychguard. LoL It wasn't until after everything was glued and a day or two had gone by that I realized I still had the plastic torso from an old destroyer lord. Oh well.

So all in all, the conversion works and it almost looks 100% legit. 3 foot rule in full effect.

Royoken wrote:What i'd like to know is if there will be a release of just scarabs.

At most all you can hope for is the classic 2nd edition metal scarabs being re-released...otherwise they fall into the same niche as Rippers.

Look at it this way...at least all your scarabs are in one box (Warriors).

Nid players have to build them up between everything!

DarkStarSabre wrote:

Royoken wrote:What i'd like to know is if there will be a release of just scarabs.

At most all you can hope for is the classic 2nd edition metal scarabs being re-released...otherwise they fall into the same niche as Rippers.

Look at it this way...at least all your scarabs are in one box (Warriors).

Nid players have to build them up between everything!

Well, I think the idea is that as you get the rest of the things that you're getting for your army anyway, you'll, once you're done, end up with a bunch of Scarabs(/Rippers) as well.
The idea isn't to buy a box of Warriors for the Scarabs. It's that you're buying Warriors to have Warriors. Once you have enough Warriors, hey, look at that, you have a mess of Scarabs too.

They could do it better, though. I hope the Wraith/Spyder kit comes with Scarabs as well.

Hell, one base of them in every other box would be a nice touch. I'm sure there's enough room on the Immortals sprues, the Lychguard sprues, etc. A shame they didn't take advantage of it.

Kevin949 wrote:finished up my hybrid warrior/lychguard mashup. Unfortunately the chest pieces of the warriors don't match up quite right (but still work well enough) and the arm socket parts aren't the same size (but again, it will work). The only down side is that there are no left arms left if you also built praetorians (like I did) so I had to scavange the left arms from the warriors as well, and the arms are much shorter than what they're supposed to be. So, the scale is just a smidge off on the right to left arm but all in all I think it worked well enough.

Oh, I did however forget that warriors came in sprues of 4 (I only had one sprue randomly) so I had to use the back of one of the warriors as the front of the lychguard. LoL It wasn't until after everything was glued and a day or two had gone by that I realized I still had the plastic torso from an old destroyer lord. Oh well.

So all in all, the conversion works and it almost looks 100% legit. 3 foot rule in full effect.

Come on then, show us a picture

Robbietobbie wrote:

Kevin949 wrote:finished up my hybrid warrior/lychguard mashup. Unfortunately the chest pieces of the warriors don't match up quite right (but still work well enough) and the arm socket parts aren't the same size (but again, it will work). The only down side is that there are no left arms left if you also built praetorians (like I did) so I had to scavange the left arms from the warriors as well, and the arms are much shorter than what they're supposed to be. So, the scale is just a smidge off on the right to left arm but all in all I think it worked well enough.

Oh, I did however forget that warriors came in sprues of 4 (I only had one sprue randomly) so I had to use the back of one of the warriors as the front of the lychguard. LoL It wasn't until after everything was glued and a day or two had gone by that I realized I still had the plastic torso from an old destroyer lord. Oh well.

So all in all, the conversion works and it almost looks 100% legit. 3 foot rule in full effect.

Come on then, show us a picture

Sure thing. Keep in mind, I've never done something like this before so I'm sure they're not terribly good (nor are they painted yet.)

They look fine

I'm sure purists would not like em, but then I've never really been a purist

Good job!

Pure speculation here, but it seems likely to me that a 2nd wave for Necrons with the same rapidity as the Dark Eldar 2nd wave was released seems a bit more likely for this reason:

GW failed to repackage the existing Tomb Spyder and Wraith models and re-sell them. That seems to indicate to me that the new versions of these models will be released *fairly* soonish, as if it wasn't the case they would have just put the old versions back up for sale.

So I'm holding out hope that a 2nd wave will have a Wraiths/Tomb Spyders kit & a Night/Doom Scythe at the very least, although probably a few more named characters too (and hopefully some more Cryptek variants).

yakface wrote:
Pure speculation here, but it seems likely to me that a 2nd wave for Necrons with the same rapidity as the Dark Eldar 2nd wave was released seems a bit more likely for this reason:

GW failed to repackage the existing Tomb Spyder and Wraith models and re-sell them. That seems to indicate to me that the new versions of these models will be released *fairly* soonish, as if it wasn't the case they would have just put the old versions back up for sale.

So I'm holding out hope that a 2nd wave will have a Wraiths/Tomb Spyders kit & a Night/Doom Scythe at the very least, although probably a few more named characters too (and hopefully some more Cryptek variants).

This would be very nice. Sometime in the next 4-6 months, would be absolutely excellent.

Well, megaforces cover the December release, so what will be in January?

yakface wrote:Pure speculation here (snip)

Sounds like pretty good speculation to me.

I'm a little sad that the old Wraiths are getting retired, since they were always my favorite Necron model (lookswise only, I dislike metal models in general). On the other hand, the art for the new style wraith in the Codex looks very, very nice as well and I have high hopes that this might be better. Fluffwise, the new reason they can phase shift is actually more compelling then the old one (+1 Ward). It makes sense that Necrons would consider phase shifting solely for it's maintenance application with combat as an afterthough; because with the old way it kinda doesn't make sense more Necrons can't Phase Shift.

Also doesn't hurt that the new Wraiths tie in aesthetically with the Tomb Stalker, which I also love.

I just finished reading the Codex front to back yesterday. Overall, I'm very pleased with the job they have done. I dislike one little bit of fluff, not for being wrong but just for being stupid (that flyer that makes the horrifying noise that makes humans insane and rip their eyes out, yet has absolutely no rules to support it, it's an unrealized Chekov's Gun, and overwrought nonsense to boot). The rest of the fluff was from good to excellent, though! I love the one little message given to the trapped Inquistor. They also nicely explain WHY Tyranids avoid some worlds but not others; and it makes sense now why and how Tyranids might destroy a tombworld. All in all, very pleased. Well done, Ward.