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So how many people have now realized that the Catacomb Command barge box has the absolute best value per dollar for what you get?

In the US it's 33 bucks, you can hot swap it from either the CCB or The annihilation barge anytime you want so you're never stuck with one if you really wanted the other one, AND they come with an overlord as well. Hell, I think the overlords are half the price of the Barge on their own. Sure, they're not finecast but I think many people will find that a boon!

Kevin949 wrote:So how many people have now realized that the Catacomb Command barge box has the absolute best value per dollar for what you get?

In the US it's 33 bucks, you can hot swap it from either the CCB or The annihilation barge anytime you want so you're never stuck with one if you really wanted the other one, AND they come with an overlord as well. Hell, I think the overlords are half the price of the Barge on their own. Sure, they're not finecast but I think many people will find that a boon!

Well amen. The fact that the lord is not finecast is a supreme bonus in my opinion.

chunky_baby wrote:They look fine

I'm sure purists would not like em, but then I've never really been a purist

Good job!

Oh I understand, and I'm somewhat of a purist myself (but only to me, I don't care if others do what they want to their models and I think a lot of the conversions are pretty cool), but considering I don't do tournaments or the like it's not really a big deal to my buddies. Plus, I like getting as much out of something as I possibly can.

And thanks, I thought they came out not too bad either.

Damn, 4-6 months till wave 2?

I was hoping for end of January or February :(

I really want to get my hands on a triarch stalker or 2.

4-6 months is about how long it took for Dark Eldar's next wave, wasn't it? The venom, etc.?

Sidstyler wrote:4-6 months is about how long it took for Dark Eldar's next wave, wasn't it? The venom, etc.?

They had the 1.5 Wave, with Beastmasters, Beasts, and the Succubus though.

I just got the codex, a box of immortals and an overlord. Finished assembling the overlord, not without 15 minutes worth of cleaning off unsightly flashings. Im a bit meh on the warscythe, it's way too spindly and transporting it will be quite a hastle...

StasisNid95 wrote:I just got the codex, a box of immortals and an overlord. Finished assembling the overlord, not without 15 minutes worth of cleaning off unsightly flashings. Im a bit meh on the warscythe, it's way too spindly and transporting it will be quite a hastle...

I thought the same thing about the FC Overlord. Luckily the CCB Overlord is all plastic...he's a lot less hassle and has a much sturdier Warscythe.
<3 Plastics.

I have to admit, I am starting to get a bit of a desire to start a necron army. But I guess I need to see the codex and maybe the options I could have for 875 points.

yakface wrote:
Pure speculation here, but it seems likely to me that a 2nd wave for Necrons with the same rapidity as the Dark Eldar 2nd wave was released seems a bit more likely for this reason:

GW failed to repackage the existing Tomb Spyder and Wraith models and re-sell them. That seems to indicate to me that the new versions of these models will be released *fairly* soonish, as if it wasn't the case they would have just put the old versions back up for sale.

So I'm holding out hope that a 2nd wave will have a Wraiths/Tomb Spyders kit & a Night/Doom Scythe at the very least, although probably a few more named characters too (and hopefully some more Cryptek variants).

I doubt it as it was only two weeks between the launch of dark elder and the 2nd wave models. We would have herd soothing by now.

haroon wrote:

yakface wrote:
Pure speculation here, but it seems likely to me that a 2nd wave for Necrons with the same rapidity as the Dark Eldar 2nd wave was released seems a bit more likely for this reason:

GW failed to repackage the existing Tomb Spyder and Wraith models and re-sell them. That seems to indicate to me that the new versions of these models will be released *fairly* soonish, as if it wasn't the case they would have just put the old versions back up for sale.

So I'm holding out hope that a 2nd wave will have a Wraiths/Tomb Spyders kit & a Night/Doom Scythe at the very least, although probably a few more named characters too (and hopefully some more Cryptek variants).

I doubt it as it was only two weeks between the launch of dark elder and the 2nd wave models. We would have herd soothing by now.

Huh? it was more than two weeks....

It was exactly two weeks. They split it up two weeks apart, you just didn't notice it because they wernt so secretive at the timeand announced every thing at the same time.

haroon wrote:It was exactly two weeks. They split it up two weeks apart, you just didn't notice it because they wernt so secretive at the timeand announced every thing at the same time.

I remember wave 1.5 in March, and wave 2 in the Summer.

Sasori wrote:

haroon wrote:It was exactly two weeks. They split it up two weeks apart, you just didn't notice it because they wernt so secretive at the timeand announced every thing at the same time.

I remember wave 1.5 in March, and wave 2 in the Summer.

Two weeks after the launch. came the next wave, which included the ravager, hellions, mandrakes and a sc

I wouldn't call that a second wave, if it's in the same month.

Sasori wrote:I wouldn't call that a second wave, if it's in the same month.

You can call it what ever you want. We are talking about when the next "wave" or "set" or whatever you want to call the "group" of models for necrons is going to come out. The point being they are unlikely to follow the dark eldar pattern.

is their no Friday update today? if so here is for complete hope and pray! that possible midnight 1.5 wave?

All those bits were in the WD for the release week so they were the same wave.

Wave 2 was the summer with the battalion, Scourges and venom.

I hope it works out similar for the Necrons, would like to see what else comes out before I decide to give them a go.

alphaomega wrote:All those bits were in the WD for the release week so they were the same wave.

Wave 2 was the summer with the battalion, Scourges and venom.

I hope it works out similar for the Necrons, would like to see what else comes out before I decide to give them a go.

Thats fine if you want to call it somthing else, but GW refers to it as the second wave on their web site so thats why I call it the second wave.

"If all of that wasn't enough for you, we also have the first look at the second wave of models that you will be able to advance order from October 19th. Be sure to come back all this week as Jes continues to give us the low-down on Urien Rakarth the Mandrakes, Hellions and the Ravager."

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/blogPost.jsp?aId=13200009a

haroon wrote:

alphaomega wrote:All those bits were in the WD for the release week so they were the same wave.

Wave 2 was the summer with the battalion, Scourges and venom.

I hope it works out similar for the Necrons, would like to see what else comes out before I decide to give them a go.

Thats fine if you want to call it somthing else, but GW refers to it as the second wave on their web site so thats why I call it the second wave.

"If all of that wasn't enough for you, we also have the first look at the second wave of models that you will be able to advance order from October 19th. Be sure to come back all this week as Jes continues to give us the low-down on Urien Rakarth the Mandrakes, Hellions and the Ravager."

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/blogPost.jsp?aId=13200009a

Obviously GW did refer to that as the 2nd wave, but that's not what I was referring to (or to what most people understand to be a '2nd wave' of releases).

Basically anything that ends up being produced for the 'first wave' (as I'm defining it) tends to be shown internally in the codex as it was done far enough in advance for pictures to be taken, etc. So a true '2nd wave' features models that weren't ready in time to be finished for the codex pictures & release.

So when we're taking about the DE 2nd wave we're referring to stuff like the flyer, etc, as opposed to the Hellions, Ravager, etc, that were all in the codex and announced in the same WD as the codex release.

Sorry for the confusion.

I am afraid of zero leaks of information regarding second wave.
So I think it is at least month or two before we could get anything more.

So I just thought of something, how would KP work regarding the Royal Court? You get the point when every member of the court dies even if spread out amongst the army or for each member as they are distributed?

Kurgash wrote:So I just thought of something, how would KP work regarding the Royal Court? You get the point when every member of the court dies even if spread out amongst the army or for each member as they are distributed?

If you split them up completely, it's 0KP.
If you leave some together in the original court, killing that court (and not the split-off members) is 1KP.

(as I understand it, anyway. same thing as Wolf Guard)

Kurgash wrote:So I just thought of something, how would KP work regarding the Royal Court? You get the point when every member of the court dies even if spread out amongst the army or for each member as they are distributed?

Its just like Wolf Guard; you get notta for killing them all. Unless you keep them as a unit onto themselves.

I wish there was a timeframe for the Night Scythe. Kinda tricky buying a entire new army when one of the two transports isn't out yet.

Right now we don't know if there even is a Night Scythe model, and that's a bigger problem compared to when it might be coming out.

This is the thing. GW needn't tell us when something is coming out, or they could be very vague about it (4th Quarter 20xx). I think people would be ok with not knowing the when as long as they did know the if. If they just said "Here is the Night Scythe - pretty cool huh? - and in the coming months we will let you know the final release date of this bad boy!" then it would solve a lot of problems. The model is coming, when it's coming isn't quite known, but you now know that you can at least include it in your purchasing plans and future army lists for when it does hit the shelves. Far better than wondering if something will ever come out and whether it's worth making a scratch build when an official model might be only two weeks away.

Imagine how much better it would have been if GW had done that for the Tyranids right from the start? There mightn't be any third parties making the unseen miniatures then, would there?

H.B.M.C. wrote:Right now we don't know if there even is a Night Scythe model, and that's a bigger problem compared to when it might be coming out.

This is the thing. GW needn't tell us when something is coming out, or they could be very vague about it (4th Quarter 20xx). I think people would be ok with not knowing the when as long as they did know the if. If they just said "Here is the Night Scythe - pretty cool huh? - and in the coming months we will let you know the final release date of this this bad boy!".

Imagine how much better it would have been if GW had done that for the Tyranids right from the start? There mightn't be any third parties making the unseen miniatures then, would there?

While I find it extremely unlikely that they won't release a Doom/Nightscythe kit (the level of detail in the art leads me to believe they're pretty much set on it), the rest of your comment definitely holds.

GW has some of the worst marketing on the planet.

Look I agree. I very much doubt that there won't be a combined Doom/Nightscythe kit, just as I'm sure we'll get the new Wraiths and Spyders eventually - it'd just be nice for them to say up front what was getting a mini and what wasn't (and, with any luck, stop releasing rules for things that will never get a miniature release).

Anybody else think that using a 10 strong Warsythe Lychgaurd with Obyron as a counter assault unit behind your frontline is a good idea? having nemesor give them counter attack or furious charge in the turn that they need it could see them outing even some deathstar units with a bit of luck methinks

I think I'm most looking forward to the Triarch Stalker model. On the other hand, I'd be happy just to have all the plastic crap I've already bought painted by then.