Marneus Calgar Reborn!

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**GrandWarmasterPinto**

well the explanation will be one of these. Magic, Faith, or mysterious technology.

**Reecius**

and with everyone having a 4+ cover save now, who cares anyway?

**GrandWarmasterPinto**

Yep, I might just model marines holding pieces of drywall in front of them to ward off bullets.

**Pariah Press**

H.B.M.C. wrote:Hmm... who came first? Leman Russ or Lord of McDonald's?

BYE

Ronald Macragge, for sure. He was released within a couple of months of Rogue Trader. Leman Russ was late 1st edition (Jes Goodwin's drawing was in the Yellow Book), when the Space Wolves got their Viking face-lift. The daemon primarchs for Epic were probably a bit later than that.

As far as the Crimson Fists go, I say it's about time they made a Pedro Cantor model!

**Abadabadoobaddon**

Only AP2? I would have thought that the bestest spase marien (hurr!) would get a better supergun. Str10 AP1 at the very least.

**GrandWarmasterPinto**

He could settle for nothing less than Strength D AP1 10" blast. Nothing less I say!

**Destrado**

This is almost as good as watching WoW meets South Park!

Of course the most badarse character in 40k would have to mforking miffs. Double bitchslaps?

Wasn't the first Marine character actually the Ultramarine's Primarch, Guilliman?
Also, the Mentors would also be an interesting chapter to revisit.

**H.B.M.C.**

GrandWarmasterPinto wrote:This just leads to a new line of Chaos special characters. Kharn, The Plagiarist, Ahriman, Proofreader of the Thousand Sons, Lucius the Secretary, Fabius Scribe, and Huron Inkheart. The most literate and vile fighting force of the 41st Millennium. Marneus Calgar and his oversized hands don't stand a chance.

What do you think his oversized hands are for? Very loud sign language.

Who needs to take time with the painstaking process of writing stuff down when you have massive hands that can speak to a nation in a fraction of the time!!!

BYE

**H.B.M.C.**

Destrado wrote:Wasn't the first Marine character actually the Ultramarine's Primarch, Guilliman?

The model was simply called 'Lord Macragge'. Now, given that the Ultra-Marines (as they were called) were Successor Chapter back in the day, and how originally there was no Horus Heresy, I think it's safe to say that quite a bit has been retconned. As 'Lord Macragge' was never named as either Calgar of Guilliman, they can say whatever they want about who he was. I'm happy to stick to the story that it's always been Calgar, and that my Half Brother was and always will be 40K's first special character.

BYE

**chaplaingrabthar**

I thought I read in WD back when the Armageddon codex came out that the first 41st Millennium special characters were Yarrick & Ghazghkull (or however it's spelled) and that they started over in Epic and transplanted over to 40K later.

And in at least the 2nd Ed Codex Ultras, Calgar was listed as being "Lord Macragge"

**Pariah Press**

The original miniature was called "Lord Macragge;" it was clearly based on the (awesome) painting from WD97 (reprinted in the Red Book) which was captioned "Imperial Commander Marneus Calgar, Lord Macragge" or somesuch. The same White Dwarf article (the very first Index Astartes article) included background and stats for Calgar (along with many other Ultra-Marines officers).

Yarrick and Ghazkull came years later, no matter what some article says.

**chaplaingrabthar**

Pariah Press wrote: Yarrick and Ghazkull came years later, no matter what some article says.

Well, it was WD info, so I didn't trust it.

**Foda_Bett**

Voodoo Boyz wrote:
Tribune wrote:Go to BOLS thread, do not pass BOLS thread, do not collect $200.

Unless you are HBMC or Voodoo taking the extreme ****, good work there!

Aww come on, this thread can only lead to more hilarity. Heck it made me update my sig!

Voodoo That's the greatest sig pic I've seen... consider me helping Pimp Calgar's world domination.

**H.B.M.C.**

Pariah Press wrote: The original miniature was called "Lord Macragge;" it was clearly based on the (awesome) painting from WD97 (reprinted in the Red Book) which was captioned "Imperial Commander Marneus Calgar, Lord Macragge" or somesuch. The same White Dwarf article (the very first Index Astartes article) included background and stats for Calgar (along with many other Ultra-Marines officers).

So, was he the actual first Special Character?

Any idea who the other characters were, or what Pimp Master Calgar's rules were?

BYE

**Tribune**

I'm pretty sure I ditched my WD stash years ago, although it might still be boxed somewhere. But yes, Calgar or 'Lord Macragge' was unveiled in WD97 as Ultramarines were the first chapter to receive the Index Astartes treatment in WD. The term special character didn't exist then, but in essence, yes he was the first.

I don't think he had much in the way of special rules, having two power fists was considered pretty impressive enough at that time. Mainly because codex creep* had yet to be invented.

* Of course, only because codices hadn't come out yet either. WD105 had a complete army list for all Space Marine chapters, ever.

**Foda_Bett**

Calgar also had a back story where he was the last surviving member of a tyranid attack. Apparently he was so badly cut up that they replaced his arms and legs with bionics. With my favorite qute "He's more machine now than man" the article explained how Calgar is pretty much useless in a strait up fight but still goes onto the battlefield to give his guideance to his fellow Ultra-Marines.

**GrandWarmasterPinto**

The Stephen Hawking of war.

**Reecius**

¨The Stephen Hawking of war. ¨

Yes! He will limp up in his chin controlled terminator armor and perplex you with the mysteries of the universe (+e=mc2) while pimp slaping you with his gloves of pimpness.

all the while giving orders to his roll dogs in a slurred yet comanding voice!

**Pariah Press**

H.B.M.C. wrote:So, was he the actual first Special Character?

Any idea who the other characters were, or what Pimp Master Calgar's rules were?

BYE

Marneus Calgar, Rogue Trader Style:

M 8
WS 6
BS 6
S 4
T 4 (note, this was when standard marines were T 3)
W 3
I 6
A 3
Ld 9
Int 9
Cl 9
WP 9
Points 589.5

As Calgar no-longer takes the field, he does not normally wear powered armour, although he does take the precaution of carrying a conversion field. The following equipment is carried at all times.

Power glove - built into right bionic arm. Includes 4 Jokaero digital lasers and a knife.
Power glove - built into left bionic arm. Includes web gun and communicator.
Infra-vision surgical implants.
Bionic right eye - with targeter, bio-scanner and energy-scanner.
Bionic legs
Bionic lungs
Conversion field armour

Calgar hates Tyranids.

"Calgar hates Tyranids." I think that'll be my .sig for a while...

Other characters include Lieutenant-Commander Cha Lee (who usually leads my army), the (half-eldar) Chief Librarian Illiyan Natase, Master of the Apothecarion Hulm Singa, (navigator) Master of the Ships Christo Columbine, Master of the Forge Samuel Dexter, Master of the Ordnance (and 2nd Co. Captain) Keorn Asata (oh, those Rogue Trader names!), Master of the Household Fimor Dour, Master of Sanctity Tow Takka-chow, and (human) Reclusiarch Leo Caberra.

**Alpharius**

Doesn't everyone hate Tyranids?

And Necrons?

Especially Necrons.

**GrandWarmasterPinto**

It's a requirement on 40K entrance exams to choose a hate for either group, both preferably if you ask the Emperor.

**Death By Monkeys**

Pariah Press wrote:the (half-eldar) Chief Librarian Illiyan Natase,

Ah, now that's the Rogue Trader I know and love.

**warpcrafter**

Spacemarinejunkie:
I've been playing chaos space marines for fourteen years, and I hate to say it, but compared to the new ultrasmurf, Abaddon is a punk. Of course, now all chaos space marines are nothing but wandering emo tweens with no focus.

**JediRaptor**

We should start a pool on what Logan ends up looking like. I'm betting a rerollable invulnerable save and a daemon weapon (the Fang of Morkai is one, isn't it?) and each unsaved wound causes D6 wounds. I mean, inflicting Instant Death is passe these days...

HEH HEH HEH....this would be light for the Imperium's Greatest Warrior!

I'm Thinking the Axe Morkai acts like a ThunderHammer that goes at init 8 and confers +4 attacks and a 2+ invulnerable save.

**GrandWarmasterPinto**

JediRaptor wrote:
We should start a pool on what Logan ends up looking like. I'm betting a rerollable invulnerable save and a daemon weapon (the Fang of Morkai is one, isn't it?) and each unsaved wound causes D6 wounds. I mean, inflicting Instant Death is passe these days...

HEH HEH HEH....this would be light for the Imperium's Greatest Warrior!

I'm Thinking the Axe Morkai acts like a ThunderHammer that goes at init 8 and confers +4 attacks and a 2+ invulnerable save.

I say nay to you sir, because that was quite broken the first time around. But it would probably fit in just fit in well with the new space marine stuff now so why not.

**Noisy_Marine**

Voodoo Boyz wrote:
Cheese Elemental wrote:I doubt it. The primarchs could no doubt rally their god's legions and crush abby.

Not while Abaddon possesses the mighty BiC-Drach'nyen!

The ink from BiC-Drach'nyen is so powerful that it allows Abaddon to wield the political powers of Chaos like no other. The pen is so powerful that it never runs out of ink, for BiC-Drach'nyen cares not where the ink comes from, only that it flows freely onto the ever changing parchments of Chaos!

Ink for the ... oh nevermind!

**Alpharius**

warpcrafter wrote:...Of course, now all chaos space marines are nothing but wandering emo tweens with no focus.

QFT brother, QFT!

**BrookM**

Here's hoping that Yarrick will also get Eternal Warrior!

**skavenfreak**

*hands Vomp a cookie... then accidentaly crushes it in the gauntlets he 'borrowed' from his Half Brother*

WTF!

I never got my cookies!!

**H.B.M.C.**

BrookM wrote:Here's hoping that Yarrick will also get Eternal Warrior!

Eternal Warrior. AP2 Storm Bolter. A Power Klaw that swings at Initative. +D6 attacks from his Bale Eye. 3+ Invul Save due to his energy shield. WS5 BS5 W4. He'll be in every Guard army, all the time, across the galaxy, simultaneously.

Honestly, for Yarrick, T4 will do. The current Yarrick is Yarrick-Lite.

BYE