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TANKS with no boagies

Look, tanks have to have running wheels and boagies of some kind and a drive wheel (unless they fly somehow or have wheels) Why oh why do all GW tanks seem to have armor that goes right up to the track?

That would hit everything and high center on the first concrete curb it hit, or get stuck in the mud.... I really hate that, only the rhino is plausible the rest of the tanks looks absolutely silly.

The CSM metal Demon Prince. It was the first HQ I put together. All glue. Fell apart so many times. Then I just GSed it when I found out wtf that was. The next DP I did I pinned in a few spots and did some nice GS work.

The reason I hate the kit so much isn't because of my past experience though. I just hate it because I just shelled out 35$ for this kit. One static pose, no wings, that tiny terminator base for such a big model. But I have to use that base because it came with it! When the plastic DP kit comes out I'll be a happy camper and able to run DPs again.

I want proper Tallarn Rough Riders, riding good new horses and not ancient plastic horses or the penis-monsters that FW make.

BYE

i hate all the older light grey plastics they all seem to be really soft and break easily.

yes there is actually a big difference as im gluing my marauder right now, and it has some dark plastic and some light plastic, big difference in quality.

Relapse wrote: The guns on the Necron Immortals, the hands on the Flayed Ones, and the Claws on the Tomb Spider. It's like GW wasn't too heavily worried aboutthese parts being able to stay in one piece. If a person just looks at them hard they fall apart since there's really not even big enough an area to do a decent pin job.

None of these bits have ever given me trouble. All have had more than adequate area for pinning (but I've pinned swordblades back onto hilts and added blades to the haft of a staff (metal) - both of these kind of joins have 1 sq mm or less area, and the joins are quite sturdy (0.5mm bit+paper clip).

My most hated, in terms of difficulty to get together is the plastic war-walker. It takes more effort for it to stay together than the metal one took. The weapon mounts have to be pinned to keep them on the model (uless you just assemble for display and never play with them). The spines need pinning in place to prevent them snapping off. The legs need to be pinned into the feet. Then you have to weight the base down to stop it going "fly, be free!" whenever anyone bumps the table.

I hated building Rogue Trader metal land speeders or dreadnoughts.

I hated looking at any of the 2nd round of epic titans(circa 1997?). Good lord they were awful.

Yeah i'll second the tank comment. They would not be able to drive in the real world. The only tanks that could are the Rhino and the Baneblade.

Augustus wrote:TANKS with no boagies

Look, tanks have to have running wheels and boagies of some kind and a drive wheel (unless they fly somehow or have wheels) Why oh why do all GW tanks seem to have armor that goes right up to the track?

That would hit everything and high center on the first concrete curb it hit, or get stuck in the mud.... I really hate that,

only the rhino is plausible the rest of the tanks looks absolutely silly.

Bogies? We don't need no stinkin' bogies!

Actually, the real problem is a lack of suspension, but then, that's British tank design for you...

For drive wheel, one can imagine an internal sprocket drive, so that's not so horrible of mess.

But I am irked by too little ground clearance on many vehicles. Land Raider in particular has far too little ground clearance, and would bog or high center much too easily.

I'm not much of a fan of the Rhino. How does the track work with the side doors? I think it'd jam internally. And with single wheels, how does it stabilize the track so it doesn't throw???

Touche JohnHwangDD

Zip Napalm wrote:I hated building Rogue Trader metal land speeders or dreadnoughts.

I hated looking at any of the 2nd round of epic titans(circa 1997?). Good lord they were awful.

Oh wow, I wasn't even thinking of those, the really old all metal speeders, eesh, those were rough!

Agreed too, the beetle back plastic Titans will forever be the best design!

I am getting to hate the 2-piece heads of a Hormagaunt. Seriously, why are they separate?

Why is a termagaunt with a devourer 8 pieces (including base) at all? It doesn't need to be 8 pieces and you don't get any level of possibility for all that work.

Thanks Shummy. Thanks a lot.

You just reminded me I have two boxes of Gaunts still to build. That's 32 Gaunts. That's 64 separate head pieces.

I hate you so much now...




BYE

Plastic non-cc Scouts.

I agree with lots of these that I couldn't be bothered repeating, but the Tallarn Roughrider with the chainsword is just silly. He looks like he just got lanced in the stomach.

The plastic Common Goblins are a pain to rank up with shields.

I've put together one drop pod to date. I never, ever want to do it again.

djones520 wrote:Plastic non-cc Scouts.

How 'bout plastic scouts in general?

I just got 7 boxes of the suckers (upcoming Crusading Marine army - I needs me some Neophytes)) and I hate them. I managed to get 5 of the old metal BP/CCW ones and they're great models. These things have their - to misquote Shummy - HUGE MANFACES and they're just not good models. The Sniper ones are even worse (converting two of them to Bolter scouts was harder than it should be). Really limited in what you can do with them, and their faces are God-awful.

BYE

ShumaGorath wrote:Why is a termagaunt with a devourer 8 pieces (including base) at all? It doesn't need to be 8 pieces and you don't get any level of possibility for all that work.

Not much worse than an Eldar Guardian...

The previous metal Hydra....

Grrrr...I have two of them. Neither has it's fully compliment of heads attached at any given time.

New ones is a massive improvement all round!

I used to dread multipart metal models. Then I actually tried them. After I'd pinned the arm of a Cadwë Undertaker (1.5mm wide, 1mm pin) and assembled the Mariner and Nomad Warjacks, I'm much more mellow about the whole thing.

The key for me is epoxying every single joint that has to bear any sort of load whatsoever. For a warjack this means every single joint, as those minis are heavy. It increases assembly time (not counting all the drilling) from 10 minutes to several days, but I think it's worth it to preserve the minis. I see no reason why the Scraplauncher would be any different in this regard.

Minis I hate include plastic Cadians (after putting together 30 of them, you learn to hate just about anything, of course), the Leman Russ, the Chimera and the old metal Thudd Gun. On the Fantasy side of things, the Empire State Troops are hideously sculpted, rank up like crap and are tedious to paint thanks to being laden up with 15lbs of bones, scrolls and superflous daggers apiece.

My Statetroops rank up perfectly??? Is easy enough. Just have to angle the arms right and there is no problem.

somecallmeJack wrote:

The new Lictor & Hive Tyrant. Does anyone else feel these models are a step backwards? I thought the old hive tyrant had a really nice queen alien vibe going on, but sadly, not anymore. & the new lictor looks really unbalanced.

The new tyrant guard. I dont think I need to explain this one.

etc, etc, etc.... I could go on.

Actually, the only reason I started a Tyranid's army was due to the new models. The olds just look completely childish and aren't very intimidating to look at. The old tyrant guard look like they have fly swatters for hands, ugly. I don't know, just my personal opinion, but the new models do the Tyranids justice.

As for which models are just down right annoying to put together, the Synapse creature of doom, ie. the Zoanthrope, was just a hassel so was the other metal creatures, Red Terror and the Ravaner. For some reason the metal parts just did not want to stay together. Annoying as heck when I have to watch a full 30 min episode on tv just to get one peice to finally dry when barely using any glue. oh well.

Happygrunt wrote:Is there a modle that you just hate? Mine is the Ork truck, way too many parts that dont fit and bad directions. Whats yours?

My pick is a tie between the old Nagash model, and the Dark Eldar Grotesques.

Absolutely SUCK!!!

Fexor wrote:

somecallmeJack wrote:

The new Daemonettes. The old ones looked like they could actually be seductive but deadly half daemon/ half women.... but now we're back to crazy crab monsters

The new Lictor & Hive Tyrant. Does anyone else feel these models are a step backwards? I thought the old hive tyrant had a really nice queen alien vibe going on, but sadly, not anymore. & the new lictor looks really unbalanced.

The new tyrant guard. I dont think I need to explain this one.

etc, etc, etc.... I could go on.

Actually, the only reason I started a Tyranid's army was due to the new models. The olds just look completely childish and aren't very intimidating to look at. The old tyrant guard look like they have fly swatters for hands, ugly. I don't know, just my personal opinion, but the new models do the Tyranids justice.

I agree with Fexor about the Daemonettes and Hive Tyrant. In fact I'm refusing to buy new Daemonettes, that is until GW release the new Seekers and I'm forced to buy some to bolster the ones I already have (which were fantastic models). And the Hive Tyrant, it looks far too much like the crap (IMO) original version of the Hive Tyrant, back when Tyranids still held guns as opposed to having them melded to their bodies. Come on, that bonesword (LOL at the innuendo, btw) looks ridiculous.

The new Tyrant Guard, however, are stunning, far better than the flyswatter version we used to have. *shudders* The new ones look like they might actually take some enemy fire and be able to shrug it off, which is handy considering their purpose...

Worst models ever have to be the Dark Eldar warriors. Adding spikes to an existing model does not necessarliy make it look evil! I'm looking at you too, CSM...

New Hive Tyrant is ace. It's one of the biggest and most intimidating models in the GW Tyranid line.

There's a reason Jes went and undid all the crap that happened with 'Nids in 3rd Ed...

BYE

I'm with HBMC here. The current Hive Tyrant is a lovely model!

By the way, I can't help but wonder what HBMC actually stands for. I suspect it's Heavy Biscuit Manufacturing Corp, but I can't be sure.

And give the Dark Eldar a break. The models are 12 years old now, and don't they look it! Though the Grotesques were arse even when brand new.

H.B.M.C. wrote:Thanks Shummy. Thanks a lot.

You just reminded me I have two boxes of Gaunts still to build. That's 32 Gaunts. That's 64 separate head pieces.

I hate you so much now...

I'll take them off your hands...

I hate the ork buggies and wartrakks. Also not a fan of most of the 40mm metal fantasy "big guys" like chaos ogres and minotaurs.
Metal mordor troll, metal cave troll are up there too.

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:My Statetroops rank up perfectly??? Is easy enough. Just have to angle the arms right and there is no problem.

I guess it varies with the weapons and poses. I can't get the spearmen's arms high enough to clear the preceding line completely, so the spears end up passing models right by their ears. The alternative would be to angle the models on the base, but I don't want a unit that's looking 45 degrees away from their supposed facing. i must say, I prefer the old onepose plastic spearmen, they look perfectly fine as a unit and don't require nearly as much prep.

True, but I do like the current State Troops. I like the battered look they wear, rather than almost parade uniforms.

But then each to his own. I don't think GW have put out a truly bad model in quite some time, so something is improving!

im also getting agitated from the chaos warrior , chaos hound now.

chaoswarrior- if i close the gap near the torso section, there is a gap near the shoulder fur part, and vice versa.

chaos hound-yes i know they are numbered so i know i didnt get it wrong -_- but there is like a 1 mm gap between the halves