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Thanks guys! I didn't think this would set off a two page discussion!

MemphisMark wrote:Thanks guys! I didn't think this would set off a two page discussion!

Oh the Irony

After reading this thread, I feel like I need a Guiness or Boddingtons and some Bangers and Mash or Fish and Chips.

I actually understood all of this discussion.

Scary.

Then again, in a previous job with yank and scouse backpackers, I was often the translator.

Not all scousers are thieves. Some haven't been charged yet.

ixlar wrote:After reading this thread, I feel like I need a Guiness or Boddingtons and some Bangers and Mash or Fish and Chips.

Wow, now thats a Faux Pas and a half. Confusing an Englishman with a Scotsman or a Welshman is forgiveable, but calling an Englishman an Irishman will result in a swift beating.

I skipped the second page, but doesn't "taking the piss" mean someone is making something lighthearted or in a jocular manner?

Gwar! wrote:

ixlar wrote:After reading this thread, I feel like I need a Guiness or Boddingtons and some Bangers and Mash or Fish and Chips.

Wow, now thats a Faux Pas and a half. Confusing an Englishman with a Scotsman or a Welshman is forgiveable, but calling an Englishman an Irishman will result in a swift beating.

Will the beating be coming from the Englishman, or the Irishman? Aren't they pretty much the same thing?

(Ducks for heavy cover, and hopes he can make his save)

Defiler wrote:I skipped the second page, but doesn't "taking the piss" mean someone is making something lighthearted or in a jocular manner?

No, Taking the piss means you are being deliberately asinine or confrontational.

ixlar wrote:Will the beating be coming from the Englishman, or the Irishman? Aren't they pretty much the same thing?

(Ducks for heavy cover, and hopes he can make his save)

The beating will be coming from both sides. In fact it's the one thing the Brits and Irish Agree on. It's a lot more bitter than say, the US/Canadian or Ozzie/Kiwi thing, too much bad blood too recently. Hell I remember growing up in the 90's, where we were given school lessons from the age of like 6 telling us to watch out for Unattended bags on Buses/trains.

-Shuts up before the Modqusition gets here-

cockney rhyming slang is a glorious thing.

it basically works like this

take a word, for example look

come up with a 2 word phase which rhymes with it e.g. butcher's hook

in all future conversation omit the actual rhyming word and just use the first e.g. 'ere 'arry 'ave a butcher's at these lovely new models.

butcher's = butcher's hook = look

some other ones that actually get used

loaf = loaf of bread = head

ruby = ruby murray = curry

dog = dog and bone = phone




having said that I'm from Yorkshire which is less about dialect words and more about the very strange way we pronounce the English language. the letter h is band from the start of all words. The word "the" is entirely omitted and at best replaced with a 't' noise. "us" can be any pronoun that you want it to be except for when we use thee, thou and thy and the letter E (or eeeeeeee) can be any exclamation you want it to be. The longer you say it the more you mean it.

hence the commonly used expression in winter time

"eeeeeeeeeee love it in't alf brisk. Fetch us, us coat and put t kettle on an we'll ave us a brew."

although the best expression for being cold ever is "eeee it's brass monkeys out there"

Ah yes, I had forgotten Butchers Hook.

That one confuses so many people

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:If you would like the learn the further, finer points of turning the air blue and making the Vicar blush, please feel free to PM me.

"the Vicar"?

What?

ixlar wrote:

Gwar! wrote:Wow, now thats a Faux Pas and a half. Confusing an Englishman with a Scotsman or a Welshman is forgiveable, but calling an Englishman an Irishman will result in a swift beating.

Will the beating be coming from the Englishman, or the Irishman? Aren't they pretty much the same thing?

Only if he's an Orangeman...

JohnHwangDD wrote:

ixlar wrote:

Gwar! wrote:Wow, now thats a Faux Pas and a half. Confusing an Englishman with a Scotsman or a Welshman is forgiveable, but calling an Englishman an Irishman will result in a swift beating.

Will the beating be coming from the Englishman, or the Irishman? Aren't they pretty much the same thing?

Only if he's an Orangeman...

Um, the Orangemen are not Englishmen at all, they are Irishmen who are loyal to the Crown (although that's a stretch since they are descended from Scots/Englishmen for the most part) but still.

Exactly!

What is funny is how small England is and yet they have so many regional dialects.

In the US we have region dialects, but they are in huge regions, i.e. Midwest, Southern, New York, New England, etc.

I saw them joking about about all of Ricky Gervais's characters have a Reading accent, but the funny thing is that they all sound the same to Americans. In fact, I would wager that 95% of American can’t tell an Australian accent from an English accent.

Do Australians also make the "bluh" sound in half of their words? If so, I wouldn't be able to tell.

Brass Monkey Weather.

Naval Reference, the "Brass Monkey" was a triangle of brass upon which cannon balls were stacked, in particular cold weather the brass would contract sufficiently as not to hold the balls in place, therefore "Cold enough to freeze the balls off a brass monkey"

I was recently at a meeting with one of our Chinese clients, she asked if we were all from the same area in the north of the country, there was some spluttering and polite explaination as one guy was a scouser, one a Yorkshireman and one a Brummy, 3 more distinct and seperate dialects you could not imagine!

And as for differing dialects, I used to live in the shadow of a place called "Clee Hill" in Shropshire (also known at "The Tump") it had its own recognised dialect derived from cornish called "Tumpish" which developed when the hill was a tin mine and pretty much isolated.

Dialects develop when you get people isolated and imobile for a period in a single location. In England over the last several hundered years this was often the case. However in America people have been considerably more mobile in the last 300 years, spreading about and moving arround etc, so small area dialects don't develop.

Add this to modern technology, the mobility of people today and pop culture and the regional dialect is dying out, which is a shame to my mind!

i am quite offten mistaken for an australian, i have no idear why, ive lived in the uk my intire likf and never even bin to oz.

I'm a Yorkshire man too. Taking the piss can be acting out of line, but it can be a bit of light hearted banter with your mates too as in "Taking the piss out of someone".

I tell thee, there's nowt as queer as folk. You daft ha'peths.

I'm also from Yorkshire and stiull hear phrases like 'Hossin' t'slart' (It's threatening to rain) when i go back to visit.

There's also the old two word conversation:

A salesman walks into a shop and says: 'Owt?'

The shop attendant says: 'Nowt'

My personal favourite is still 'Faffin'. Meaning to mess around.

Ok so where did "Blimey" come from?

Also(this may be an Australian slang), what does Crickey(pronounced -cry kee) mean?


GG

Blimey is a contraction of the phrase "God blind me".

More traditionally said as "Cor blimey".

Crikey and cripes are both similar contractions of Christ. Think saying "Oh God" and you're on the right track.
Would you guys say "Christ on a bike" btw ?

JohnHwangDD wrote:
"the Vicar"?

What?

Priest

I live in prime Cockney Rhyming Slang area. In fact, my local pub is "The Bow Bells", but I hear no more rhyming slang here than anywhere else I have lived. Not that I notice, anyway.

I speak Japanese with an accent 'cos I lived in rural Miyazaki for two years when I was first learning Japanese. Nothing extreme, but people mention it from time to time.

Gwar! wrote:
And of course any true British lad will get a chuckle when I say "FORK 'ANDLES"

Four Candles?

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:I'm as honest as the day is long. The longer the daylight, the less I do wrong.

You are mad

"Got any O's?"

"What, a Hose?"

"No, O's as in Letter O's, Got any P's?"

"As in the letter P?"

"No, Tin of Pea's"

Fifty wrote:

Four Candles?

four candles

reds8n wrote:Would you guys say "Christ on a bike" btw ?

I do it all the time

Just out of interest, whereabouts in Yorkshire are you guys from? Sheffield for me.

Funnily enough, It's "Christ on a Crutch" where I spent a lot of my childhood years.

Do I say ' Christ on a Bike?'

My friend, I hav e read the Viz Strip entitled 'Christ on a Bike' for Christ was the luckiest Messiah in the Holyland, and with his faithful friend Mintsauce the Lamb of God, rode his Chopper to help others!

this has been surprising interesting to read through.
oddly, its easier to follow then some of the mountain folk i've known