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Wehrkind wrote:As to women smoking, I gotta agree it is a big turn off in general. A little smoking here and there is acceptable (and sometimes that second hand lip tingle from making out with a girl with nicotine residue is sexy) but it isn't a long term sort of thing as John pointed out. They either quit and get fat, or don't quit and look like Clint Eastwood at 40. Best case scenario they take good care of their skin, but still have a smokey stink and stained teeth.

Tho in Cali, a lot of girls also tan year round.

I think a lot of them are going to have skin like saddlebag leathers when they get old.

Wanna have fun with a smoker? I ask smokers this all the time, and have never gotten anything resembling an intelligent answer in return:

"When your house is on fire, what are you supposed to do? Get out of the house, and STAY OUT OF THE SMOKE. The smoke can KILL YOU. Why would you then WILLINGLY light something on fire to INHALE SMOKE?"

*Enjoy stupid expression on target face*

Mattlov wrote:Wanna have fun with a smoker? I ask smokers this all the time, and have never gotten anything resembling an intelligent answer in return:

"When your house is on fire, what are you supposed to do? Get out of the house, and STAY OUT OF THE SMOKE. The smoke can KILL YOU. Why would you then WILLINGLY light something on fire to INHALE SMOKE?"

*Enjoy stupid expression on target face*

By that logic, we shouldn't drink water. If you end up in water, you will drown. Why would anyone willingly risk drowning?

Mattlov wrote:Wanna have fun with a smoker? I ask smokers this all the time, and have never gotten anything resembling an intelligent answer in return:

"When your house is on fire, what are you supposed to do? Get out of the house, and STAY OUT OF THE SMOKE. The smoke can KILL YOU. Why would you then WILLINGLY light something on fire to INHALE SMOKE?"

*Enjoy stupid expression on target face*

Well,that's a bit extreme,the chemicales I inhale when I smoke are far less toxic than what I would be inhaling in your average house fire,if not I would have died ages ago,not that I'm saying my smoking habbit is healthy mind you,I just find with every cigarette I light the urge to beat someone into a quivering pulp goes away for a while.

JD21290 wrote:It depends really, if i play someone who doesent smoke then ill hold off all game, but if im playing another smoker im more than happy to take a mid game smoke break


Before anyone starts on the whole "smoking causes cancer" thing ill call that up as BS.
A friend of mine has just been told after a test that he has it, this is a healthy person who has never smoked, done drugs and never drank in his life (maybe the odd xmas or Bday drink)

Also on another note, anyone here who simply says its a dumb habit, people who smoke are fools: too fething right, more than likely it was the worsed mistake of my life and i regret it alot, as does everyone who smokes, for anyone here who is pondering the idea: dont bother, its a waste of your life.

I think that says pretty much exactly what I was going to say.

Protip: Whether you smoke or not you will die. Even if you never get a single whiff of smoke, you are still going to die. I don't advocate doing it for a lot of reasons, but because it (might) kill you isn't one of them.

Don't smoke (also CUPCAEKS!!), but I've never had a big problem with my opponents smoking. I have played addicts before, however, who feel the need to light up after every fething turn. Which wouldn't be a problem if they could smoke at the table, but jetting off for 5-10 minutes each turn makes the game just drag.

Gets on my last nerve, and I won't play someone so damn extreme again.

Polonius wrote:

Mattlov wrote:Wanna have fun with a smoker? I ask smokers this all the time, and have never gotten anything resembling an intelligent answer in return:

"When your house is on fire, what are you supposed to do? Get out of the house, and STAY OUT OF THE SMOKE. The smoke can KILL YOU. Why would you then WILLINGLY light something on fire to INHALE SMOKE?"

*Enjoy stupid expression on target face*

By that logic, we shouldn't drink water. If you end up in water, you will drown. Why would anyone willingly risk drowning?

No, by that logic you shouldn't BREATHE water. NOT drinking water will kill you too, it just takes a little longer.

In the end, it doesn't matter. Being healthy is simply dying at a slightly slower rate. Life is terminal in all known cases.

Gutteridge wrote:

MeanGreenStompa wrote: I especially hate that weak little cough they do around someone smoking.

no offense intended to you but i love doing that around smokers, especially around the people outside shopping areas..

the trick is you gotta make it sound painful.

LOL around my group it just makes you sound weak, and triggers the attack reflex.... you get covered in exhaled cigarette smoke until you and your pathetic little cough go away. ESPECIALLY if you're outside..... take a fething walk away from the designated smoking area.


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Mattlov wrote:Wanna have fun with a smoker? I ask smokers this all the time, and have never gotten anything resembling an intelligent answer in return:

"When your house is on fire, what are you supposed to do? Get out of the house, and STAY OUT OF THE SMOKE. The smoke can KILL YOU. Why would you then WILLINGLY light something on fire to INHALE SMOKE?"

*Enjoy stupid expression on target face*

In return, I ask you good sir:

"When the dog is obviously foul tempered and known to bite, why would you tease it?"

"I normally like to poke bears, and that dog is much smaller than the bear I usually poke."

Bookwrack wrote:Oh please, don't be obtuse. My post doesn't constitute the entire body of research on the subject, merely a simplified explanation to someone who has no idea how it works. If you're going to do YMDC about it, fine: An extremely elevated number of people who have no other predisposition for lung cancer but are long time smokers develop it. Ipso facto, smoking causes cancer.

Very excellent word usage.

Are you...
A) a doctor?
B) a frequent watcher of The Shawshank Redemption?
C) an owner of a Word-of-the-Day Calander?


BTW, really do like the post. I wish I could see the face of some of the people reading it, checking a Dictionary or Wiki at every third word

Lordhat wrote:"When the dog is obviously foul tempered and known to bite, why would you tease it?"

Because people are idiots.

JohnHwangDD wrote:

Wehrkind wrote:As to women smoking, I gotta agree it is a big turn off in general. A little smoking here and there is acceptable (and sometimes that second hand lip tingle from making out with a girl with nicotine residue is sexy) but it isn't a long term sort of thing as John pointed out. They either quit and get fat, or don't quit and look like Clint Eastwood at 40. Best case scenario they take good care of their skin, but still have a smokey stink and stained teeth.

Tho in Cali, a lot of girls also tan year round.

I think a lot of them are going to have skin like saddlebag leathers when they get old.

So... Saddle up?

Hey, it's the Wild, Wild West!

JediRaptor wrote:

Bookwrack wrote:Oh please, don't be obtuse. My post doesn't constitute the entire body of research on the subject, merely a simplified explanation to someone who has no idea how it works. If you're going to do YMDC about it, fine: An extremely elevated number of people who have no other predisposition for lung cancer but are long time smokers develop it. Ipso facto, smoking causes cancer.

Very excellent word usage.

Are you...
A) a doctor?
B) a frequent watcher of The Shawshank Redemption?
C) an owner of a Word-of-the-Day Calander?


BTW, really do like the post. I wish I could see the face of some of the people reading it, checking a Dictionary or Wiki at every third word

Actually I think he was using the technical terms for two things.
A) Lending weight to his arguement as its hard to argue with scientific or flowery language.
and B) (to use the vernacular) 'Getting one over' his opponent as it makes it appear that in contrast to him the other guy knows little.

That said I totally agree with the points he makes. There is Scientific and statistical evidence for smoking increasing the risk of cancer where as the other side has to rely on that old favourite of the ignorant Anecdotel evidence. Woooooo. So your Grandpa/Aunty Mable smoked all their life and ended up dying peacefully at 80. Good for her. He/she is a statistical minority. The thing is, as was explained pretty well by Bookwrack, cancer is a risk. Smoking has been linked to increasing that risk.

Aside from that I fully support freedom of choice and even recognise that smoking can in certain situations be a way of reliving stress and pain as well as a social tool.

Wooo for the amount of hypocrasy in this post

For some reason asians think its cool to smoke . So it went something like this:
me: why are you smoking? does it taste good?
friend: no , makes me look cool
me: but i dont think you are cool at all
friend: ... try one , its chocolate cigar
me: ...... real chocolate taste better , less expensive , and doesnt give cancer.

Smoke breaks bother me less than cell converations.

I like smoked salmon alot though

LunaHound wrote:I like smoked salmon alot though

Salmon is for wusses, try some good lobster instead.

Cheese Elemental wrote:

LunaHound wrote:I like smoked salmon alot though

Salmon is for wusses, try some good lobster instead.

No , this is smoking thread, thus smoked salmon.
Lobster is for wusses , try lobster sashimi instead , while it still moves ( i have , but too mean so just once )

it makes me happy that my serious thread about cupcakes has worked..

Also I smoke, but I wouldn't interrrupt a game to do it. But when I play in my garage, me and my friend smoke when its the other guys turn..

ALSO if someone interuppts the game Ill go smoke.


EDIT yes smoking is bad so is cola grog and junk food.. yet you never see such demonising of these things. Also to the guy that coughs ppainfully , I dont get it, why would I care if your coughing?

GUILT makes you die.

LunaHound wrote:
For some reason asians think its cool to smoke .

I love stereotypes!

I don't smoke, but I don't mind if my opponent asks for a quick smoke break. I'll just grab a drink and plan out my next turn.

Lobster sashimi? That sounds... gooey.

I am surprised at how many non-smokers there are in here.

A lot of people will be too young to smoke yet, myself included, but if my opponent asked I wouldn't have any problem with it. They're not my lungs.

Never had the issue at my place. But if it does come up i'd want them to take it outside for a break.

I don't really have a problem with smoking at all, but honestly, "I'm going to die anyway" is a horrible way to excuse it.

Like I said though, I don't give a gak, so long as you're honest about it and admit that you just like smoking that's good enough for me, but I don't want to hear bs like "We're all gonna die anyway so why not?"

MinMax wrote:

LunaHound wrote:
For some reason asians think its cool to smoke .

I love stereotypes!

Perhaps, but you may want to ask about Luna's ethnicity...

Smoking is cool. It's just too much like hard work for some people. Bunch of quitters...

Only one of the guys in our group smokes, and does so outside, so it doesn't affect the rest of us.

Lets sum up the thread so we can move on the topic...


"I call BS on all of the smoking/cancer statistics"

"But there is scientific proof that smoking increases your chances for getting cancer. Not only that, even if you don't get cancer you will suffer long-term effects in the form of heart disease, emphysema and other ailments."

"Whatever, I had one healthy friend that had a heart attack anyways. Ran every day. Uncle Frank however, drinks a gallon of Pabst every night and smokes two packs a day...still kicking"

"Well, anecdotal evidence isn't really a good basis to form ideas on. Statistics clearly show that those instances are a great minority when compared to the risk factors mentioned before."

"Well, you keep your statistics. I'm going to live life and not worry about increasing our decreasing my percentage of dying by bits....why walk outdoors!? It's dangerous!"

"True but there is a line you cross where the statistics move from 'Asteroid falling on my head' to realistic risks...I mean why not do crack cocaine and bang hookers? It's just a statistical risk."

"Well it makes me feel good, so the small risk is worth it."

"Actually, you've trained your body to feel bad when you don't get it. That would go away however and isn't worth the risk."

"Well, my Uncle Frank...."

Repeat ad nauseum