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I admit to not being a huge fan of the vampirish feel of the BA but I would like a new set of rules to use for my personal chapter (especially if they are going to be very assault oriented which is something I like).

Kirasu wrote:GW treats Dark Eldar like little kids no one wanted.. Maybe if you ignore them long enough they'll go away

Yes, but this thread is about celebrating how SMs got another Codex, not whining about how (surprise, surprise) DE got nothing.

I was going to buy a reaver titan this month... but now I'm not sure if I should wait or not.

BA are the only thing in 40K I'm pasionate about anymore.

IF they did conversion kits on a par with the SW and BT sets I'll be very, very happy, and buying plenty.

They just need to have moulded shoulder pad icons.
Please, please GW provide moulded shoulder pad icons.

JohnHwangDD wrote:

Kirasu wrote:GW treats Dark Eldar like little kids no one wanted.. Maybe if you ignore them long enough they'll go away

Yes, but this thread is about celebrating how SMs got another Codex, not whining about how (surprise, surprise) DE got nothing.

Thanks to the Thread Police, telling us what to talk about since 2006.

wuestenfux wrote:My hope is that the new codex will not be jervisified.

QFT, that guy needs to retire

Kid_Kyoto wrote:Disappointing, I could think of 10 armies that need a codex before the Blood Angels.

Along the lines of this sentiment I am torn. I have a BA army and as such I am very hopeful that they will get a new codex. A few months ago when I started 40K I was debating Blood Angels or Space Wolves. I was much irritated when I chose BA and SW got the codex. I do agree though that there are a couple of armies that desperately need a new book.

But, it seems like space marines sell minis and armies. I suspect GW is trying to capitalize on the success of Space Hulk and the recent release of another popular 3rd edition SM chapter, being SW of course.

Da Boss wrote:
Also curious as to how the Death Company will be handled. I'd imagine they'll get fleet.

Me too, they are one of the coolest units in the game.

whitedragon wrote:Anyway, does anybody think that the new "reworked" mini's will be a set of the Space Hulk Termies when the codex comes out? How much do you think that will devalue a Space Hulk for all those resellers? :-)

Maybe its just me, but the resellers. They are a blight on the world. Buy Space Hulk for playing the game, not for what you can get later.

I hope they rework or just include the SH sprue for BA Termies. Those figs are fantastic. And it costs GW less if they just reuse the mold.

All BA need is some bits to create a death company from tacticals or assaults. And maybe they give us some bits for vehicles.

I see resellers as very bad things, for lack of a more colorful description. Its buying things for the investment rather than the satisfaction of ownership.

I don't know how to describe it, but its like Edward Norton in the movie "Italian Job". Getting something because you want it, or taking it because someone else may want it.

JohnHwangDD wrote:

Kirasu wrote:GW treats Dark Eldar like little kids no one wanted.. Maybe if you ignore them long enough they'll go away

Yes, but this thread is about celebrating how SMs got another Codex, not whining about how (surprise, surprise) DE got nothing.

I think the DE should have been retired years ago. But if GW did that than alot of self rightious "Real Gamer" would have nothing to complain about. The Ba were short changed with the pdf. Especially since they are a popular chapter 2nd in my heart after my SW. I welcome the thought of a new codex and range of mini's.

@Kid_Kyoto what 10 armies need a codex before the BA?

@ Waagh gonads. what gives your pic looks well bulked up (

Da Boss wrote:Thanks to the Thread Police, telling us what to talk about since 2006.

Save your sarcasm, it doesn't change the fact that this is the wrong thread for it.

Anyways, when the rumors were mentioned in BoLS this comment popped up:

pedrokantor wrote:These sprues are incredible btw.

You'll want to get yourself some boxes of assault terminators and assault marines ready. Don't worry there will be a bundle option like with the wolves.

The codex has some great new rules relating to blood rage!

(Thats all I can say folks!)

Bit of salt, obviously, but is it unusual to have sprues already complete by now?

BA are one of the armies that *made* the game popular in 2nd ed.. They deserve a codex with ACTUAL cool fluff

The expansion team armies can take a back seat

Waaagh_Gonads wrote:BA are the only thing in 40K I'm pasionate about anymore.

I'm the same way... except + DKoK.

This would be a long time coming and a just reward for continuing to play this army after the 'unspeakable codex' was released.

With never before seen levels of codex creep this will also a good time for blood angel players

Honestly, sarcasm aside, I just want to see point costs that make sense and stats that match the stories we read before we were plagued with James Swallow.

There needs to be no cap on death company.....make it like it was in the "real" codex, that was the a very fun part, you never knew how many you'd get.

bhsman wrote:

Da Boss wrote:Thanks to the Thread Police, telling us what to talk about since 2006.

Save your sarcasm, it doesn't change the fact that this is the wrong thread for it.

And you're borderline trolling! Hooray!

beef wrote:@ Waagh gonads. what gives your pic looks well bulked up (

A combination of 'Operation BEEFCAKE' and help with pic selection from the DCMs, all of which is covered in the entrallingly mysterious DCM forum... also I got a haircut...



Back On Topic:
I think that just releasing the Space Hulk sprue will be a mistake. Due to the repatative nature of masses of models will have.
Use them as a guide for a new sprue of add ons, definitely.

blood angel wrote:This would be a long time coming and a just reward for continuing to play this army after the 'unspeakable codex' was released.

By itself, the pdf isn't bad. There are a few mistakes like rhinos having no doors or firing points, Lemartes being made much better than a regular Chaplain for the about the same cost, Tycho not having an actual weapon or even a pisto, etc.l. The problem was the precedence set by the 3rd edition codex with access to Furious Charge (albeit at cost) and a wide range of HQs.

If given the choice, I'd like to see:

-Storm Shields, et al, brought in line (a given at this point)
-Death Company made entirely optional
-Death Company keeps Rending but can purchase a power weapon or fist for every X models (that cannot be combined with Rending)
-Artificier armor and being able to master-craft weapons (moreso because the Blood Angels are known for it rather than trying to go back to the armory options)
-Keep RAS as troops
-Tear Attack on Furiosos
-Make Death Company upgrade for Dreadnoughts similar to Possessed upgrades for CSM: lower BS but ignores stunned/shaken
-Viable HQs outside of special characters
-This one is more of an extra than anything set in fluff, but access to Inferno Pistols and Hand Flamers would be awesome as well.

so I also have heard the codex might actually be another run of "Angles of death" and actually be for BA/DA. Anyone else heard this?

also yet unconfirmed but templars will be included as part of ordo hunter dex due Aug/Sep.... Rumors as always.

A combined Angels of Death codex was quickly shot down by Harry over at Warseer, so it's very unlikely.

JohnHwangDD wrote:

Kirasu wrote:GW treats Dark Eldar like little kids no one wanted.. Maybe if you ignore them long enough they'll go away

Yes, but this thread is about celebrating how SMs got another Codex, not whining about how (surprise, surprise) DE got nothing.

My impression is that DE will never get a new codex.
But now we should celebrate the new BA codex.
I'm eagerly waiting for it.

I hope it's better than the PDF, and that they replace that Lemartes model so he'll stop popping up in the "Worst sculpts" threads.

I think BA has some of the worst models in the game:
Corbulo, Lemartes, Mephiston.
They need to get an overhaul.

Mephiston? He's not that bad.

Mephiston looks a little odd, and plays badly for being a 225 point character with no inv. Dear God I hope they fix that one.

I'm hoping that Dante gets some love, he is after all 1,100 years old, so surely he's going to be more of a tank than Papa Smurf.

And I agree with bhsman, BA should be getting Master Crafting and Artificer Armour all over the place as the fluff puts it like their homeworld has more artifacts than sand...

Well I can't speak for his rules, but yeah he does look odd. I thought he was supposed to though.

Not liking for the current trend for "ancient culture/mythology but in space" Marines.

So far we have...

Romans in Space (Ultramarines)
Monks in Space (Dark Angels)
Vikings in Space (Space Wolves)
Mongols in Space (White Scars)
Knights in Space (Black Templars)
Dragons in Space (Salamanders)

And now we will have as clearly indicated by the Space Hulk Terminator Sergeant, Vampires in Space!

Daft

I hope the new codex reflects some kind of vampire feeling.

Monks in Space (Dark Angels)

Do monks use guns and swords?

Yeah, I'm just being a tit.

Dragons in Space (Salamanders)

Okay, the Marines themselves aren't dragons. A more appropriate label would be "dragonslayers in space", which you could also simplify as just another "knights in space" archetype.

Speaking of that SH terminator sergeant, I never noticed that the sword Mephiston has is the same style as the one the sergeant is wielding. Did Lorenzo fall in battle and Calistarius take the sword? Or do they just use the same kind of sword?

I hope the new codex reflects some kind of vampire feeling.

I kinda hope not, really. A little vampirism here and there is okay I guess (like Dracula-looking Mephiston), but I'd prefer if they didn't go overboard.

I'm fine with it all. I think it adds to the Space Marines being "the stuff of legends" with out forcing too much mythology down our throats.

The mythology plays a minor role.
But bringing Blood Angels in proximity to Vampires is a bit much.

Do BA really approximate anything else other than being blonde, long lived, and hungering for blood?

They're an entire chapter of Lestat de Lioncourt...

EzeKK wrote:I like how GW is doing the Marines dexes. I hope they do the same for Chaos really. (After they get a re-worked main codex)

Agreed. There are more than enough Khorne models amongst the 40k/fantasy lines to justify a Khorne codex. Release a new bits pack, a new IC and bam these pre-existing models sell like hot cakes.