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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/10/28 03:05:53
Subject: Plastic Greatcoats - UPDATE 10/25
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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If we're not buying, we don't need to register and post there.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/10/28 08:09:35
Subject: Plastic Greatcoats - UPDATE 10/25
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Calculating Commissar
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JohnHwangDD wrote:If we're not buying, we don't need to register and post there. 
Precisely. Besides, the last time I tried to post something there, I was drowned out by their resident idiot parade, so screw 'em is what I say.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/10/28 09:17:27
Subject: Re:Plastic Greatcoats - UPDATE 10/25
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S
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I don't want to post there, it's like an old ladies club, only they are all very rude and very closed community.
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/10/28 09:22:34
Subject: Plastic Greatcoats - UPDATE 10/25
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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JohnHwangDD wrote:If we're not buying, we don't need to register and post there. 
And this year's 'useful one liner' award goes to...
I was under the impression they were reading the thread here on dakka as well? As someone who will be buying these if they are 'right' for me, I'll join the forum over there but there does seem to be a large amount of negative feedback about the site's forum community.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/10/28 09:24:51
Subject: Plastic Greatcoats - UPDATE 10/25
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Yeah, I made the mistake of trying to post on that site once....
Id rather spend a 3rd tour in Iraq then go back.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Im also shocked that GW hasnt shut them down yet just from the sheer amount of "Hey turn this GW model into this so we can proxy it for cheap!" requests they get.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/10/28 10:08:20
Subject: Plastic Greatcoats - UPDATE 10/25
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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jp400 wrote:Yeah, I made the mistake of trying to post on that site once....
Id rather spend a 3rd tour in Iraq then go back.
I'm not the sort to do it, but VERY sig worthy.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/10/28 12:33:45
Subject: Plastic Greatcoats - UPDATE 10/25
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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Best one yet!!!!
Glad to see the buttons go!
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"Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have guns, why should we let them have ideas."
-Joseph Stalin
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/10/28 16:23:18
Subject: Plastic Greatcoats - UPDATE 10/25
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Red_Lives wrote:Glad to see the buttons go!
If you can't do buttons right, don't do them at all.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/10/28 17:34:35
Subject: Plastic Greatcoats - UPDATE 10/25
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Without the turnbacks, the miniature looks a lot better!! If this continues I will certainly be buying a few boxes of those! many uses!!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/10/28 17:42:49
Subject: Plastic Greatcoats - UPDATE 10/25
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[MOD]
Otiose in a Niche
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JohnHwangDD wrote:If we're not buying, we don't need to register and post there. 
then why read this thread? Automatically Appended Next Post: Agamemnon2 wrote:
Precisely. Besides, the last time I tried to post something there, I was drowned out
BrookM wrote:I don't want to post there, it's like an old ladies club, only they are all very rude and very closed community.
jp400 wrote:Yeah, I made the mistake of trying to post on that site once....
Aw were they mean to y'all?
Funny here I thought this was Dakka, but it turns out to be the local knitting circle.
My bad.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/10/28 17:55:49
Subject: Plastic Greatcoats - UPDATE 10/25
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Joined the Military for Authentic Experience
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I registered and posted. If they yell and froth at what I posted, it's no skin off my nose, as long as the designer saw what I had to say.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/10/28 18:09:55
Subject: Plastic Greatcoats - UPDATE 10/25
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
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jp400 wrote:Im also shocked that GW hasnt shut them down yet just from the sheer amount of "Hey turn this GW model into this so we can proxy it for cheap!" requests they get.
How exactly would GW get WF shut down?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/10/28 19:35:09
Subject: Plastic Greatcoats - UPDATE 10/25
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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You must be kidding.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/10/28 19:49:25
Subject: Plastic Greatcoats - UPDATE 10/25
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
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They're not violating GW IP in any way.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/10/28 20:21:27
Subject: Plastic Greatcoats - UPDATE 10/25
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Rampaging Carnifex
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"I'm sorry to inform you that GW is the sole owner and proprietor of "GreatCoat Infantry". As a legal representative of GW Corporate, I issue you this cease and desist order. If you do not comply with out request, we will take this matter to civil court."
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Dakka. You need more of it. No exceptions.
You ask me for an evil hamburger. I hand you a raccoon.-Captain Gordino
What are you talking about? They're Space Marines, which are heroic. They need to be able to do all the heroic stuff. They fight aliens and don't afraid of anything. -Orkeosarus
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/10/28 20:25:47
Subject: Plastic Greatcoats - UPDATE 10/25
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Phanobi
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Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Aw were they mean to y'all?
Funny here I thought this was Dakka, but it turns out to be the local knitting circle.
My bad.
My thoughts exactly except KK put it better than I could have.
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My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings. Look on My works, Ye Mighty, and despair.
Chris Gohlinghorst wrote:Holy Space Marine on a Stick.
This conversation has even begun to boggle my internet-hardened mind.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/10/28 20:28:38
Subject: Plastic Greatcoats - UPDATE 10/25
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Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
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I don't think GW are stupid enough to try something like that where they will lose.
Anyway, back OT, if you don't like the style, join the WF forum, vote against and say why. You don't have to hang around and socialise.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/10/28 20:36:07
Subject: Plastic Greatcoats - UPDATE 10/25
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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
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Red_Lives wrote:
Best one yet!!!!
Glad to see the buttons go!
I really like this, they would work perfectly for some conversions I'm planning,may have to look further into this.
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"I'll tell you one thing that every good soldier knows! The only thing that counts in the end is power! Naked merciless force!" .-Ursus.
 I am Red/Black Take The Magic Dual Colour Test - Beta today! <small>Created with Rum and Monkey's Personality Test Generator.</small>I am both selfish and chaotic. I value self-gratification and control; I want to have things my way, preferably now. At best, I'm entertaining and surprising; at worst, I'm hedonistic and violent. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/10/28 21:51:55
Subject: Plastic Greatcoats - UPDATE 10/25
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Kid_Kyoto wrote:JohnHwangDD wrote:If we're not buying, we don't need to register and post there. 
then why read this thread? 
If they're not reading Dakka, why create this thread?
Kid_Kyoto wrote:My bad.
Indeed.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/10/28 21:55:02
Subject: Plastic Greatcoats - UPDATE 10/25
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Phanobi
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JohnHwangDD wrote:
If they're not reading Dakka, why create this thread?
I'll answer that. So that we know that these potentially really cool models are in development, maybe? He even linked to the discussion thread in the first post.
kthxbye
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My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings. Look on My works, Ye Mighty, and despair.
Chris Gohlinghorst wrote:Holy Space Marine on a Stick.
This conversation has even begun to boggle my internet-hardened mind.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/10/29 03:05:23
Subject: Plastic Greatcoats - UPDATE 10/25
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MasterSlowPoke wrote:They're not violating GW IP in any way.
GW does not have to sue and win.
They don't even have to sue.
All they have to do is make a credible threat to this young start up. WGF will take one look at the potential legal costs of fighting the claim, during which time they cannot release the Great Coats, and decide that historicals are a better way to go.
It would not be the first time.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/10/29 03:06:53
Subject: Plastic Greatcoats - UPDATE 10/25
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
A garden grove on Citadel Station
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If that was likely to happen here then pig iron would be in trouble because they have greatcoat dudes, and that hasn't happened.
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ph34r's Forgeworld Phobos blog, current WIP: Iron Warriors and Skaven Tau
+From Iron Cometh Strength+ +From Strength Cometh Will+ +From Will Cometh Faith+ +From Faith Cometh Honor+ +From Honor Cometh Iron+
The Polito form is dead, insect. Are you afraid? What is it you fear? The end of your trivial existence?
When the history of my glory is written, your species shall only be a footnote to my magnificence. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/10/29 03:08:11
Subject: Plastic Greatcoats - UPDATE 10/25
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ph34r wrote:If that was likely to happen here then pig iron would be in trouble because they have greatcoat dudes, and that hasn't happened.
Pig Iron's selling pricey metals, assuming prices are comperable to their historicals WGF will be selling 3 or 4 for $5, significantly cutting into GW.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/10/29 03:10:49
Subject: Plastic Greatcoats - UPDATE 10/25
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Kid_Kyoto wrote:MasterSlowPoke wrote:They're not violating GW IP in any way. GW does not have to sue and win. They don't even have to sue. All they have to do is make a credible threat to this young start up. WGF will take one look at the potential legal costs of fighting the claim, during which time they cannot release the Great Coats, and decide that historicals are a better way to go. It would not be the first time.
*cough* Dreamforge *cough* And good on GW for crushing a competitor via Legal means, rather than open competition in the marketplace!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/10/29 03:14:19
Subject: Plastic Greatcoats - UPDATE 10/25
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
A garden grove on Citadel Station
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Yeah, but that gothic walker is significantly more 40k-IP-y than a bunch of guys in coats. Seriously, I see no way in hell WGF will get in any legal trouble for this.
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ph34r's Forgeworld Phobos blog, current WIP: Iron Warriors and Skaven Tau
+From Iron Cometh Strength+ +From Strength Cometh Will+ +From Will Cometh Faith+ +From Faith Cometh Honor+ +From Honor Cometh Iron+
The Polito form is dead, insect. Are you afraid? What is it you fear? The end of your trivial existence?
When the history of my glory is written, your species shall only be a footnote to my magnificence. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/10/29 03:46:11
Subject: Plastic Greatcoats - UPDATE 10/25
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
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Kid_Kyoto wrote:MasterSlowPoke wrote:They're not violating GW IP in any way.
GW does not have to sue and win.
They don't even have to sue.
All they have to do is make a credible threat to this young start up. WGF will take one look at the potential legal costs of fighting the claim, during which time they cannot release the Great Coats, and decide that historicals are a better way to go.
It would not be the first time.
Who have Games Workshop threatened into oblivion by sending them dubious claims of copyright infringement?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/10/29 03:49:39
Subject: Plastic Greatcoats - UPDATE 10/25
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
A garden grove on Citadel Station
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See JHDD's above post.
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ph34r's Forgeworld Phobos blog, current WIP: Iron Warriors and Skaven Tau
+From Iron Cometh Strength+ +From Strength Cometh Will+ +From Will Cometh Faith+ +From Faith Cometh Honor+ +From Honor Cometh Iron+
The Polito form is dead, insect. Are you afraid? What is it you fear? The end of your trivial existence?
When the history of my glory is written, your species shall only be a footnote to my magnificence. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/10/29 03:56:54
Subject: Plastic Greatcoats - UPDATE 10/25
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
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Looks like they're still around - http://dreamforge-games.com/Home.html Their blog is still active, too.
Googling around, it looks like they at one point sold something that looks remarkably similar to an Imperator Titan, possibly even called an Imperator Titan. An IT is a little less vague than "future WW1 soldier", and would be solid grounds for copyright infringement.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/10/29 04:21:52
Subject: Plastic Greatcoats - UPDATE 10/25
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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It's a giant robot.
News to me that GW copyrighted that concept, given that giant robots have been around for a long time with a variety of detailings.
Future WW1 soldier is DKoK, so surely anything similar must be infringing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/10/29 04:29:34
Subject: Plastic Greatcoats - UPDATE 10/25
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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MasterSlowPoke wrote:Looks like they're still around - http://dreamforge-games.com/Home.html Their blog is still active, too.
Googling around, it looks like they at one point sold something that looks remarkably similar to an Imperator Titan, possibly even called an Imperator Titan.
No, not possibly called an Imperator Titan. They made a giant robot that would scale closer to a WARLORD Titan with fewer weapons called a Leviathan that looks nothing like any Warlord design GW has ever produced.
GW slapped them with the THREAT of legal action for an item that, in any decent court of law, would be defensible as an original work not derived from GW's IP and Dreamforge folded because they didn't have the monetary means to defend themselves in an extremely costly court action that would most likely take months to resolve, despite the good chances they would win. It's either fold or win a moral victory for a now bankrupt company. Because that's how GW wins IP disputes.
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