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Didnt the necrons make a beeline towards mars with 9 ships, and moving full speed only 1 made it to the ground, and that one died right after

5 light cruisers that made it all the way through the most heavily defended system in the galaxy. Even managing to land on what is probally the second best defended planet in the galaxy.

How many times has Abaddon tried with fleets and armies? That raid isn't exactly something to scoff at. . .

I grappled the shoggoth wrote:Nothing, terra is the final boss of the imperium. The imperials would let half the galaxy fall before they let terra. Nids show up, enjoy getting taken out by every space ship within 5,000 light years. Behemoth got stopped by the ultramarines, theres no way they could take over terra.

Keep in mind the hive mind is omnipotent & ever evolving. Notice how with each new hive fleet, they become harder to stop & newer more powerful nids show up. Its an evolution machine that can reproduce over 5M gaunts in the time it takes to produce a space marine scout and as such it would only be a matter of time.

Edit: Well not so much as omnipotent but it knows all the tyranids learn & is ever-learning. Making each hive fleet deadlier than the last.

Im pretty sure doomrider is said to be the one who will finally kill him.

Well technically if all the Orks of the galaxy were to unite, then yes they would destroy everything, including Terra, regardless of whether or not you could even get to the warlord. And if I'm not mistaken, some orks have travelled to other galaxies haven't they?

However it's unlikely that they would, but I think thats just GWs way of leaving us hanging.


Because the story never really progresses, it wouldn't matter, but I think that if the Imperium were to fall, it would be either from the Necrons, Tyranids, or Orks.

The point is, no army is going to reach its true goal because that would completely defeat the purpose of the game.

Snikkyd wrote:Well technically if all the Orks of the galaxy were to unite, then yes they would destroy everything, including Terra, regardless of whether or not you could even get to the warlord. And if I'm not mistaken, some orks have travelled to other galaxies haven't they?

However it's unlikely that they would, but I think thats just GWs way of leaving us hanging.


Because the story never really progresses, it wouldn't matter, but I think that if the Imperium were to fall, it would be either from the Necrons, Tyranids, or Orks.

The point is, no army is going to reach its true goal because that would completely defeat the purpose of the game.

The orks would implode on themselves before they could get even get remotely close to that. Some parts of the ork army may take to long to get to terra and end up fighting each other


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How about the suns own system I mean its got to die out sooner or later infact it has to explode sooner or later

Rc1987 wrote:

Snikkyd wrote:Well technically if all the Orks of the galaxy were to unite, then yes they would destroy everything, including Terra, regardless of whether or not you could even get to the warlord. And if I'm not mistaken, some orks have travelled to other galaxies haven't they?

However it's unlikely that they would, but I think thats just GWs way of leaving us hanging.


Because the story never really progresses, it wouldn't matter, but I think that if the Imperium were to fall, it would be either from the Necrons, Tyranids, or Orks.

The point is, no army is going to reach its true goal because that would completely defeat the purpose of the game.

The orks would implode on themselves before they could get even get remotely close to that. Some parts of the ork army may take to long to get to terra and end up fighting each other


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How about the suns own system I mean its got to die out sooner or later infact it has to explode sooner or later

It would take millions of years for the sun to die. So it wouldn't matter.

As a chaos player I like the Emperor in stasis, right where he is. I'm thinking that if the Emperor somehow did get killed there would be be some kind of Saint Celestine moment and he would get up ready to kick some ass..

Nobody. The spehss mahreens would just squish everyone else with hundreds of different codexes.

Hypothetically:

Necrons, Orks and Nids...
Aswell as CSM if they banded together..

Might make an interesting Plot tournie for the gaming club to try this out and see if humanities defenders can stave off the ravages of the entire universe....

Thanks for the thread idea...
Iwill be bringing up this topic up at our gaming club!!

IF THE VOID DRAGON EVER WAKES UP ON MARS EVERY ONE IS SCRUED BECAUSE THE VOID DRAGON IS ACTUALLY THE GREAT MACHINE SPIRIT HE WOULD TELL ALL OF MARS TO TURN ON TERRA AND ALL THE TITAN LEGIONS AND MACINE SPIRITS WOULD DESTROY EVERY THING SO NECRONS WIN

why do you have to use capitals and yea the necrons proply

Tau, easily.

orkylooter wrote:why do you have to use capitals and yea the necrons proply

BECAUSE IT DRAWS MORE ATTENTION


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Raxmei wrote:Tau, easily.

WHY TAU



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Raxmei wrote:Tau, easily.

AN IMPERIAL GUARD SQUAT TOOK OUT AN ETERNAL

Raxmei wrote:Tau, easily.

Lol,do you realize how much is powerful the defense system surrounding Terra.Only the Necrons can send the ships which can stand against the greatest defense of the Imperium.

ULTRAMARINE_DART wrote:IF THE VOID DRAGON EVER WAKES UP ON MARS EVERY ONE IS SCRUED BECAUSE THE VOID DRAGON IS ACTUALLY THE GREAT MACHINE SPIRIT HE WOULD TELL ALL OF MARS TO TURN ON TERRA AND ALL THE TITAN LEGIONS AND MACINE SPIRITS WOULD DESTROY EVERY THING SO NECRONS WIN

Ow...my eyes. Stop typing it all caps, it's obnoxious and looks like your yelling at everyone. It also does the opposite of making you sound the least bit smart.

1hadhq wrote:

Zid wrote:Chaos. Abaddon (once he gets past the gate) will pwn all! stupid IG :(

Failbaddon will disgrace himself.....

Again...*sigh*


Anywho, my vote goes to the Tyranids or Necrons. Tyranids because they are slowly getting closer and closer to Terra, and when they do, who knows how much biomass they'll have consumed. Not to mention there could be various Genestealer cults hiding in the deep recesses of Terra. With such a huge population, there's gotta be some Stealers lurking in those sewers.

Necrons for obvious reasons, though I think the Void Dragon is pretty much stuck where he is at the moment, being imprisoned by the Emperor and all.


P.S. I find it sad how many people find "Emprah" and "Spess Mehrehns" (and its other spellings) funny. It's lost its touch guys, and overdoing it doesn't make it any more funny.

Rc1987 wrote:How about the suns own system I mean its got to die out sooner or later infact it has to explode sooner or later

I read that the mechicum had resolved that issue and feed it power of some kind to keep it sustained??
Can't remeber the fluff though...
Could've sworn that I read the Emperor and some of the original Mechanicum bent their minds towards resolving this and retaining Terra indefinitely?

Otherwise the entire plot system for WH40K would be slightly bent out of whack and all will be for nothing!!

Necrons managed to do the raid because they didn't use the warp to get to it,Eldar could do the same thing,but they aren't durable as Necrons and if Necrons came with a large force they could take Terra.
Other races trying to do it would be detected and billions of guardsmen,tens of thousands Space Marines would be send to defend Sol System and massive fleet would be send form all corners of the Imperium.

P.S. I find it sad how many people find "Emprah" and "Spess Mehrehns" (and its other spellings) funny. It's lost its touch guys, and overdoing it doesn't make it any more funny.

It's not meant to be funny, its meant to be insulting. (to the SM, not the players) at least that's how I use it

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Zid wrote:Chaos. Abaddon (once he gets past the gate) will pwn all! stupid IG :(

Failbaddon will disgrace himself.....

His only tactic is brutal force, any commander with some tactical genius can paralyze failbaddons efforts for all eternity.

well try try again, theres only so much you can throw in his way til he gets through haha

Zid wrote:

1hadhq wrote:

Zid wrote:Chaos. Abaddon (once he gets past the gate) will pwn all! stupid IG :(

Failbaddon will disgrace himself.....

His only tactic is brutal force, any commander with some tactical genius can paralyze failbaddons efforts for all eternity.

well try try again, theres only so much you can throw in his way til he gets through haha

Who says the tactic is to defend a line?
Its rather easy to have his forces screwed, break his flanks and ruin his rearguard, end his supply lines and he'll be just another
example of the idiocy of betrayal....

BeRzErKeR wrote:Well, if they ever got their gak together, the Orks could and would wipe the galaxy clean of, well, everything else. Long-standing fluff is that the Orks outnumber pretty much the whole rest of the galaxy put together, and given that every single Ork is quite an effective fighter, if anyone could unite the entire Ork race the Green Tide would smash the Imperium like a sledgehammer hitting a watermelon.

But the odds of that ever happening are about a squintillion to one.

It's actually stated that they can't unite (Its against there nature, they are incapable of it just like you and me are encapable of flying). The odds of orks uniting are the same as if you point a plasma gun at an enemy space marine, and it kills the unsummoned greater deamon of slaanesh standing behind your imperial guardsmen, despite the fact that the deamon still had full wounds and was on a diffrent battlefield.
I think that the most likely to kill the emperor would be the imperium. The emperor returns, and is burned as a heretic. Oh and ork spores causing armegaddon on a planet, because of the perpetual spores, use a blowtorch on a mushroom. No more spores.
The Tyranids are another good option but seriously it took a surprise attack by 9 legions to get close. plus thousands of human traitors. They revamped the defense since than.
Eldar don't stand a chance. There shattered, they can't do it. I think some warp cannon would do the trick.
Tau would hurt themselves more if they tried. seriously you try to make a little empire for yourself? we shoot you! you mess with terra? we go nutts with cyclonic torpedos and viros bombs. We blow the crap out of ever little fire warrior.
Dark eldar? why?
Necrons? there aren't necrons on terra, they have to come in with your ships. First, theres the sector fleet the defends the solar system. Then you mess with a fortress the size of a continent, space marines and sisters of battle plus lot of guard Oh think you can beat those? how about the 9,700 custodian guard? That beatable? fancy breaking the eternity gate with 300 elite custodian spartans, and to emperor titans. In a closed enviroment? That not to bad? what about the emperor himself.
C'tan: YAY WE DID IT!
C'tan: Guys?
necron bodies every where (there phaser overloaded)
Emperor blows C'tan's brains out, annihilating it's essence.

landraider wrote:

BeRzErKeR wrote:Well, if they ever got their gak together, the Orks could and would wipe the galaxy clean of, well, everything else. Long-standing fluff is that the Orks outnumber pretty much the whole rest of the galaxy put together, and given that every single Ork is quite an effective fighter, if anyone could unite the entire Ork race the Green Tide would smash the Imperium like a sledgehammer hitting a watermelon.

But the odds of that ever happening are about a squintillion to one.

It's actually stated that they can't unite (Its against there nature, they are incapable of it just like you and me are encapable of flying). The odds of orks uniting are the same as if you point a plasma gun at an enemy space marine, and it kills the unsummoned greater deamon of slaanesh standing behind your imperial guardsmen, despite the fact that the deamon still had full wounds and was on a diffrent battlefield.
I think that the most likely to kill the emperor would be the imperium. The emperor returns, and is burned as a heretic. Oh and ork spores causing armegaddon on a planet, because of the perpetual spores, use a blowtorch on a mushroom. No more spores.
The Tyranids are another good option but seriously it took a surprise attack by 9 legions to get close. plus thousands of human traitors. They revamped the defense since than.
Eldar don't stand a chance. There shattered, they can't do it. I think some warp cannon would do the trick.
Tau would hurt themselves more if they tried. seriously you try to make a little empire for yourself? we shoot you! you mess with terra? we go nutts with cyclonic torpedos and viros bombs. We blow the crap out of ever little fire warrior.
Dark eldar? why?
Necrons? there aren't necrons on terra, they have to come in with your ships. First, theres the sector fleet the defends the solar system. Then you mess with a fortress the size of a continent, space marines and sisters of battle plus lot of guard Oh think you can beat those? how about the 9,700 custodian guard? That beatable? fancy breaking the eternity gate with 300 elite custodian spartans, and to emperor titans. In a closed enviroment? That not to bad? what about the emperor himself.
C'tan: YAY WE DID IT!
C'tan: Guys?
necron bodies every where (there phaser overloaded)
Emperor blows C'tan's brains out, annihilating it's essence.

Doesn't Ghazghkull want to unite all the Orks?

landraider wrote:

BeRzErKeR wrote:Well, if they ever got their gak together, the Orks could and would wipe the galaxy clean of, well, everything else. Long-standing fluff is that the Orks outnumber pretty much the whole rest of the galaxy put together, and given that every single Ork is quite an effective fighter, if anyone could unite the entire Ork race the Green Tide would smash the Imperium like a sledgehammer hitting a watermelon.

But the odds of that ever happening are about a squintillion to one.

It's actually stated that they can't unite (Its against there nature, they are incapable of it just like you and me are encapable of flying). The odds of orks uniting are the same as if you point a plasma gun at an enemy space marine, and it kills the unsummoned greater deamon of slaanesh standing behind your imperial guardsmen, despite the fact that the deamon still had full wounds and was on a diffrent battlefield.
I think that the most likely to kill the emperor would be the imperium. The emperor returns, and is burned as a heretic. Oh and ork spores causing armegaddon on a planet, because of the perpetual spores, use a blowtorch on a mushroom. No more spores.
The Tyranids are another good option but seriously it took a surprise attack by 9 legions to get close. plus thousands of human traitors. They revamped the defense since than.
Eldar don't stand a chance. There shattered, they can't do it. I think some warp cannon would do the trick.
Tau would hurt themselves more if they tried. seriously you try to make a little empire for yourself? we shoot you! you mess with terra? we go nutts with cyclonic torpedos and viros bombs. We blow the crap out of ever little fire warrior.
Dark eldar? why?
Necrons? there aren't necrons on terra, they have to come in with your ships. First, theres the sector fleet the defends the solar system. Then you mess with a fortress the size of a continent, space marines and sisters of battle plus lot of guard Oh think you can beat those? how about the 9,700 custodian guard? That beatable? fancy breaking the eternity gate with 300 elite custodian spartans, and to emperor titans. In a closed enviroment? That not to bad? what about the emperor himself.
C'tan: YAY WE DID IT!
C'tan: Guys?
necron bodies every where (there phaser overloaded)
Emperor blows C'tan's brains out, annihilating it's essence.

5 light Necron cruisers penetrated Mars and 1 even managed to land. Light cruisers mind you, the scouts of the fleet. What happens when a larger force wants to say hi?

When the Emperor's soul finally is gone from Terra, it would be a matter of days for ol' Terra.

If, before then, probably nothing.

Necrons are out because there are apparantly no Necrons on Terra, and as far as I know they don't go from world to world, they only kill stuff that wakes them up and then go back to sleep.

Nids... possibly, though I think they wouldn't hold out againts the Imperial Fists or the plethora of other things defending Terra.

Orks, no, they would die before they even got to the surface. They would raise way too much alarm on account of lack of discretion.

Eldar, possibly, they could get there, but they are too arrogant to really care. They wouldn't last very long once they were discovered.

Dark Eldar, no.



Tau, no.

Any and all. Well, with the Exception of my beloved Tau, I don't think they could get there, to much resistance.

The races that have a chance(to me):

IG, if a large enough portion of the PDF turned of the rest as stated on page one, Humans have a knack for killing each other.

SM, basically the same as above.

Chaos, One day they will get a foot hold on Earth.

Orks, once Ork spores infest the planet unless I'm mistaken the only way to get rid of them would be to burn the planet...

Tyranids, nuff said.

Necrons, they're built to kill everything, last time I checked Holy Terra was still part of everything....


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ZacktheChaosChild wrote:

Necrons are out because there are apparantly no Necrons on Terra, and as far as I know they don't go from world to world, they only kill stuff that wakes them up and then go back to sleep.

Don't know if this is fluff but this site(http://kofler.dot.at/40k/necron.html) has Necron Space ships...

it would be the orks, first because the WAAGH! Wazdakka is like right next to it, so they have that to deal with. all they have to do is turn and BAM! Terra.

Orks, definitely. And they don't need to be united, all Ghazzy has to do is invade and get a war going on, and every Ork in the galaxy will show up for da biggest krumpfest in da galaxy! It'll be like Armageddon, but on a system-wide scale. And the Imperium responding with overwhelming force will just attract MORE orks!

Wut? Da humies iz sending ALL dere ships and ALL dere marine boyz? OI MEKBOY! GET DIS SHIP MOVIN' TA TERRA RITE AWAY! I 'ear all da otha orks iz goin' dere too, we can't miss all da fun!

Warbands will be crash-landing their ships all over the system, just looking for a rite propa fite!

Orks love to fight, and no fight's bigger than invading Sol, even a grot knows

rabidaskal wrote:Orks, definitely. And they don't need to be united, all Ghazzy has to do is invade and get a war going on, and every Ork in the galaxy will show up for da biggest krumpfest in da galaxy! It'll be like Armageddon, but on a system-wide scale. And the Imperium responding with overwhelming force will just attract MORE orks!

Wut? Da humies iz sending ALL dere ships and ALL dere marine boyz? OI MEKBOY! GET DIS SHIP MOVIN' TA TERRA RITE AWAY! I 'ear all da otha orks iz goin' dere too, we can't miss all da fun!

Warbands will be crash-landing their ships all over the system, just looking for a rite propa fite!

Orks love to fight, and no fight's bigger than invading Sol, even a grot knows

They don't even have to win the fight, just get there and get some spores there.

As was said before, only Exterminatus can stop an Ork infestation, which on any other planet is fine, but here...

Grots are the most dangerous race. They're small and sneaky, and they love chewing on power cords.