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Made up or not, it's interesting reading, more interesting than other people's wish lists, purchasing plans, comments on how they hate the old or new rules or models, etc. Once that starts here I'll unsubscribe to this topic too.

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chaos0xomega wrote:
...personally, I hope that GW embraces the Halo influences a bit more and gives us a paired MC combat unit ala Hunters.


Presenting the new motto of the Tau...

Your worlds will burn until their surface is but glass. Your destruction is for the Greater Good, and we are instruments of Its most Glorious Path.



Luke_Prowler wrote:Is it just me, or do Ork solutions always seems to be "More Lootas", "More Boyz" Or "More Power Klaws"?
starbomber109 wrote:Behold, the true ork player lol.
I have to admit, I miss the old Infantry battles of 4E compared to this 5E wonderland of APCs/IFVs everywhere. It's like we jumped from WWI to WWII.

ChrisCP wrote: KFFs... Either 50% more [anti-tank] than your opponent expects or 50% less [anti-tank] than you expect.

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You guys, who cares if the fluff gets altered so long as we get some cool new models with great rules!

Like H.B.M.C. said, GW will retcon the fluff to fit the changing dynamic of the game and to sell minis. And who cares? If you have been around for more than an edition, you would know to expect it.

It keeps things fresh, and is the reason why this game has outlived all the competition.

Give me Ninja Comie battle suits and deep striking bunkers. Sounds fun! The recent cdexes have been great, I am fully confident that the creative team they have now will continue to produce quality material.

   
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hm hunter like units for the tau? i like this idea

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I don't see an air dropped bunker as a useful unit in the current high-numbers cheap AT firepower environment.

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Kilkrazy wrote:I don't see an air dropped bunker as a useful unit in the current high-numbers cheap AT firepower environment.


It all depends on the price (and the slot cost), if you get one with a twin linked railgun for 35 points and no selection slot its will totally be worth it.

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I don't see an air dropped bunker as a useful unit in the current high-numbers cheap AT firepower environment.
Besides offereing an alternative tabletop tactic for the Tau a drop-ship or bunker type model sounds like one really cool modeling project for us hobby fans. Sign me up to build and paint one of those!

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Jackmojo wrote:
Kilkrazy wrote:I don't see an air dropped bunker as a useful unit in the current high-numbers cheap AT firepower environment.


It all depends on the price (and the slot cost), if you get one with a twin linked railgun for 35 points and no selection slot its will totally be worth it.

Jack


Of course.

Though that doesn't really address the core issues in the current line-up.

New models are welcome as long as the rules are updated in the rest of the codex too.

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Hahaha,

so you have passed judgment on a speculative model without even knowing what it does?

I am going out on a limb here, but maybe, just maybe, you should:

a.) see if it's real before blowing it off
b.) see what it does before discounting it.

Crazy thoughts on the internet, I know. But I might be on to something there!

   
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Hardly. I have merely given my opinion on the concept as presented. There's nothing wrong with that.

Discussion of rumours is one way that companies get useful information about users' desires and needs.

When the codex is released, I will look at it.

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You sounded very dismissive, which is your right. But saying you don't think it will be useful before you know anything about it seems premature.

I reserve judgment until I have enough information to formulate a valid opinion. Well, most of the time I do. I make snap judgments on occasion, too.

But, as you said, feedback is important. If they actually do read this stuff.

I think it is a cool concept and gleefully anticipate any new models as recently, the codexes have been excellent.

We shall see, shan't we!?

   
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Loving the idea of a plastic Librarian/Chaplain kit. It's long overdue. With any luck we will be able to make one of each from the kit?

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Chimaera wrote:Loving the idea of a plastic Librarian/Chaplain kit. It's long overdue. With any luck we will be able to make one of each from the kit?

It doesn't make that much difference: either you'll be able to make one of each, or you'll just have to "promote" a marine from one of the other kits using the spare bits.

For that matter, you'll probably be able to make half a dozen characters if there are any options.

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Now we just need a loyalist Terminator character kit and we'll be all sorts of gravy

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Jackmojo wrote:Now we just need a loyalist Terminator character kit and we'll be all sorts of gravy

Jack

agreed

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Reecius wrote:You guys, who cares if the fluff gets altered so long as we get some cool new models with great rules!

Like H.B.M.C. said, GW will retcon the fluff to fit the changing dynamic of the game and to sell minis. And who cares? If you have been around for more than an edition, you would know to expect it.

It keeps things fresh, and is the reason why this game has outlived all the competition.

Give me Ninja Comie battle suits and deep striking bunkers. Sounds fun! The recent cdexes have been great, I am fully confident that the creative team they have now will continue to produce quality material.


this. but you do realize, that the bunker will have amazing rules, will be everyone's favorite, then they'll release a tau building kit nothing like the bunker, and only given the pic of their current railgun bunker, and told "make it taller, and like this. No, you don't get a tutorial. Of course not". In short, it'll be the next stormraven. Not essential to the army, but cool rules, and makes everyone try to make one.

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While I'm looking forward to the stormraven kit coming out properly, I do have to admit that they managed motivate a fairly massive kit-bash/conversion/custom build response from their fans, which is kind of awesome from the overall hobby perspective.

Jack


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Jackmojo wrote:While I'm looking forward to the stormraven kit coming out properly, I do have to admit that they managed motivate a fairly massive kit-bash/conversion/custom build response from their fans, which is kind of awesome from the overall hobby perspective.

Jack


*twitch* *twitch* ....

AH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH.... *giggle*....HAHAHAHAHAHA.... man, you crack me up. Don't you get it? All the "pro"-ish people on the net have made conversions out of a land raider and a Valkyrie. That's roughly $90 worth of models for one kit. I've yet to see one made out of other materials. GW is making a killing on every "storm raven" they sell.

Of course, it could be argued that this is making many people aprehensive to buy one, and they might actually make more money on a real kit.

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The whole point of Tau is that they suck in CC. I just can't see this changing. Same thing with the firebase; doesn't fit the fluff at all. I'm expecting to see maybe one or two new aliens, some new weapons for Crisis Suits or maybe a new type of suit, and maybe a new vehicle or two. I don't see the railgun "draw a straight line and start trying to pen stuff" rule happening. Maybe they'll make the skyray not suck?

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I'm sorry but what is it about temprorary, dropped in bunkers that doesn't fit the fluff?

They happily drop their troops in and pick them up with Orcas with no problem at all. So why couldn't they drop in temporary bunkers with the troops, and then pick them up after.

It's a form of defense for their underarmoured troops. It's both logical and sensible.

Also, this is ignoring the fact, that GW will happily change all the fluff to make the next wave of Tau the CC masters of the universe.

Oshova

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Oshova wrote:

Also, this is ignoring the fact, that GW will happily change all the fluff to make the next wave of Tau the CC masters of the universe.

Oshova


So since this SW guy is He man on battlecat, Tau get this skull-faced guy?


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Alphapod wrote:The whole point of Tau is that they suck in CC.


Why is that unable to change?

IG aren't supposed to be that good in CC. Ever charge into a 50 Man blob with a Commissar and Straken? It makes Orks cry.

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Right, "Bad at CC" as an army trait doesn't have to mean that every unit is terrible at it. You just likely won't be able to make a CC focused army.

And, yes, how does a dropped firebase not fit their fluff? Rapidly deployed (and presumably rapidly removed following a victory) heavy weaponry seems very Tau like.
   
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BrassScorpion wrote:Made up or not, it's interesting reading, more interesting than other people's wish lists, purchasing plans, comments on how they hate the old or new rules or models, etc. Once that starts here I'll unsubscribe to this topic too.


I wish they'd get around to fixing the CSM codex.
   
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H.B.M.C. wrote:I don't care if they're dropped or not - Tau terrain. That's awesome.


I agree. Imperials get loads of terrain. Chaos Terrain could be easily made by converting Imperial terrain. There's ork terrain, and orks can convert Imperial terrain, and orks can make their own by scrapping up some plasticard and throwing bits at it. Eldar, Tau, and 'nids have a distinct lack of army-specific terrain, and in the Tau's case I don't enjoy walking through home and garden sections of my local store to try and find a perfectly-shaped flower pot made of a convertible material. Any kind of Tau bunker would be welcome.

And maybe one day I can dare to dream there will be an Eldar building sprue with spiky-bits to make it Dark Eldar. Well, dream, anyway.

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QuietOrkmi wrote:
chaos0xomega wrote:
...personally, I hope that GW embraces the Halo influences a bit more and gives us a paired MC combat unit ala Hunters.


Presenting the new motto of the Tau...

Your worlds will burn until their surface is but glass. Your destruction is for the Greater Good, and we are instruments of Its most Glorious Path.




That is my Cadre's motto currently.

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I just hope that I can still use the principle of Kauyon... it is one of the things IMHO that makes Tau unique.

Luke_Prowler wrote:Is it just me, or do Ork solutions always seems to be "More Lootas", "More Boyz" Or "More Power Klaws"?
starbomber109 wrote:Behold, the true ork player lol.
I have to admit, I miss the old Infantry battles of 4E compared to this 5E wonderland of APCs/IFVs everywhere. It's like we jumped from WWI to WWII.

ChrisCP wrote: KFFs... Either 50% more [anti-tank] than your opponent expects or 50% less [anti-tank] than you expect.

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$1,000,000 and a 50% discount

Kroothawk wrote:
Specialist Firewarrior squad who have forsaken gun training for close combat training. Probably -1BS +1WS +1I. Probably Elites.

Fantastic

[WS3 BS2 S3 T3 I3 A1 LD7 Sv4+] Fire Warriors with no power weapon option taking up an Elites slot at around 10pts a model.

It's IG without the Ballistic Skill and a slightly better save.

That is no improvement. I would never take them over a squad of crisis suits or stealth suits.


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Actually, Tau have drop-in bunkers, though they are from FW and are rather sentry turrets with weapons. Would really love them being moved from FW status to official status.

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