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I bought an armageddon medusa from them recently, I paid 80 USD for it.

It was a nightmare to build, nothing fit together, the pieces spent a looong time under the hot water.

I would be interested to know if anyone had bought an alpha pattern russ, specifically the dkok vanquisher model. Any opinions on the quality would be appreciated. Really want to get one as the command tank of my company. I imagine there may be a bit of barrel warp with such a long barrel.

Other than that i fancy a few hydra flak tanks, anther model that i expect to have barrel warp. Why does it seem that all the forgeword i want has really long barrels?

I was thinking about the IF Rhino doors and some dreadnought weapon arms, I'm glad I waited and didn't just impulse buy them. I'll just buy the tank kit from GW and use those.

Trickstick wrote:I would be interested to know if anyone had bought an alpha pattern russ, specifically the dkok vanquisher model. Any opinions on the quality would be appreciated. Really want to get one as the command tank of my company. I imagine there may be a bit of barrel warp with such a long barrel.

I haven't got the Vanquisher (my Vanquishers were just the turrets), but I do have one of these. The hull is quite simple, works well with the (old) Russ kit. Not sure how well it would gel with the new Russ kit, but either way there aren't many pieces to the Alpha hull, so it shouldn't be too hard to make it work.

Trickstick wrote:Other than that i fancy a few hydra flak tanks, anther model that i expect to have barrel warp. Why does it seem that all the forgeword i want has really long barrels?

Friend of mine ordered two Hydras. Be prepared for some crazy wacky bendy barrels. Also be warned that the Hydra kit has the same construction as the Manticore kit (same turret and hull place, just different weapons). This means that it will hardly fit across the old Chimera kit (I've got no idea bout the new one). They're not well designed, and, again, they're an ancient kit, so expect a lot of problems with them. My 3 Manticores were very difficult to get together, so the Hydras are likely to be the same (just with bendy barrels!).

dalsiandon wrote:I was thinking about the IF Rhino doors and some dreadnought weapon arms, I'm glad I waited and didn't just impulse buy them. I'll just buy the tank kit from GW and use those.

There's nothing wrong with Dread arms. The Autocannon arms might be a bit bent, but I've got most of their standard Dread arms and I've had no problems with them.

H.B.M.C. wrote:I haven't got the Vanquisher (my Vanquishers were just the turrets), but I do have one of these. The hull is quite simple, works well with the (old) Russ kit. Not sure how well it would gel with the new Russ kit, but either way there aren't many pieces to the Alpha hull, so it shouldn't be too hard to make it work.

I believe that the alpha pattern uses the bottom plate of a russ andthen adds on the tracks. If that is the case it should be fine as i just compared the bottom plates of the old and new style and they seem interchangable. The track sections will be easy to modify if they are different.

Which vanquisher turrets did you go for? I liked the stygies but the dkok one has the single stubber i want and comes with all the extra ventilators and the alpha hull for a reasonable (for FW) price.

I got three of the Stygies VIII's and one Gryphonne IV kit (with him sitting on top). Each Stygies turret is the Command tank in a Squadron of Russes, with the Gryphonne being the Company Commander.

I knew there was a reason I'd made my last few FW purchases in person, at GW HQ

dalsiandon wrote:I was thinking about the IF Rhino doors and some dreadnought weapon arms, I'm glad I waited and didn't just impulse buy them. I'll just buy the tank kit from GW and use those.

Bought virtually every type of dreadnaught arm and they are one of the few things I have no problems with although they do ft better to the GW dread than the FW dread.

Trickstick wrote:I would be interested to know if anyone had bought an alpha pattern russ, specifically the dkok vanquisher model. Any opinions on the quality would be appreciated. Really want to get one as the command tank of my company. I imagine there may be a bit of barrel warp with such a long barrel.

Other than that i fancy a few hydra flak tanks, anther model that i expect to have barrel warp. Why does it seem that all the forgeword i want has really long barrels?

I have four Alpha hulls wearing Ryza pattern turrets.

The turrets were fine, just needed cleaning up.

The top and front panels of the alpha kit needed warming and straightening but nothing too difficult. Fitting the little filler piece that goes underneath the rear is tricky but it does fit.

Commander Endova wrote:Nah. I managed to pawn it off on a buddy who really wanted one. I really wanted to get rid of the damn thing, so I sold if off for about 50% of what I payed for it.

Pretty much sums up the all-resin abortion that was the FW Valkyrie (several years before the plastic kit was a sparkle in the eye of a dreaming GW marketing manager).

Every part was warped - except the canopy strutwork. That was just shattered due to the absence of any kind of void fill in the box. Several baggies of loose parts ALL with plenty of space to move around inside the box.

Got the pieces straightened up (I've been playing with resin for 23 years, and had 17-18 of them prior to this kit so I knew what to do).
REBUILT the strutwork (well, fabricated it from strip plasticard).
Got it assembled and primered.

Sold it to a mate for $80 (Cost me around $150) just to be rid of it.

Not really aiming to jump on the bandwagon per se but...

I have the forgeworld valk... partially assembled. Purchased it for a mate as a gift with the intent of building and painting it. So far, not working out that way. I'm kind of daunted by the prospect of building it.

Land Raider reinforced armour, the middle section was too small. It had shrunk somehow, so needed to replace those. Plastic doors, resin doors and even the gun mounts didn't fit, which was a bit of a pain...

Sometime in March I ordered Spaced armour for another Land raider I have, cleaned the bits, test fitted them, they seemed perfect. Only got around to building it the other day and bam... I have a duplicate rear armour piece for one side, but missing the other side. I think I have two left armour plates but no right one. Last time I emailed them with issues I got no reply, so guess it's down to calling them... From Australia.

Almost all the other kits I've purchased though, beyond a little warpage in barrels and the like, have been fine. Most of the kits I get from them now though tends to be the recent stuff though, so lends credence to the recent stuff being in better nick theory.

chromedog wrote:Pretty much sums up the all-resin abortion that was the FW Valkyrie (several years before the plastic kit was a sparkle in the eye of a dreaming GW marketing manager).

This is basically the reason why I don't own any resin:

1. Valks.
2. Vultures.
3. Trygons.
4. Warhounds.
5. Thunderhawks.
6. Thunderbolt.

Because as soon as there's a hint of a glimpse of a whisper of a rumour that one of those might be coming in plastic, I swear off buying it. I didn't for the Baneblade, figuring the rumoured plastic one was still years away, and bought my Maximilian Wiseman's Baneblade and a Stormblade, and I regret doing so. Not so much for the Baneblade, but that blasted bloody Stormblade. A year later the plastic Baneblade comes out and a few months later the plastic/resin hybrid Stormblade.

The mere mention of a possible plastic Valk stopped me from buying any. I won that one.
The idea of a plastic Trygon came by, so I avoided buying the resin version. I won that one too.
I knew that a plastic Valk would bring with it a plastic/resin hybrid Vulture. I was right there.
I decided against getting the resin/plastic hybrid Shadowsword. Right again.

Now we've got rumours of a 'flyer' expansion, so I'm not buying any Thunderbolts, and there's the long standing logical conclusions that there will eventually be a plastic Warhound and Thunderhawk, so I'm not getting either of those. I can be very patient, and learnt my lesson with my resin vehicles.

There was no rumour of the valk coming out in plastic at the time I purchased my Valk. It was resin or DIY.

I now own three plastic valkyries. Piece of piss to assemble and they required bugger all work. Cheaper, too (especially when one is not foolish enough to buy it from GWOZ retail).

I have an Armorcast Phantom and baneblade. The FW BB wasn't different enough to warrant replacing it. FW don't as yet HAVE a phantom for sale. Haven't used either of them in over 12 years though. Phantom is a beotch and a half to transport.

The AC phantom had none of the issues I've had with FW stuff. Perhaps it's because the guys at AC (at the time) knew how to cast stuff properly?

Hearing things like this actually make me glad that I'm forced to wait to get Forge World due to money. I don't have sizable enough forces yet to justify getting anything big or fancy, and the only two armies I have at the moment are Orks and Grey Knights, so there's a good deal of limitation on what I'd actually use.

That being said, I did get the Grey Knights/Inquisition Land Raider doors, and they seem to be ok to me. I also ordered the Inquisition/Grey Knights Brass Etchings, and wound up getting a set of Imperial Aquilas that somehow got put in the wrong bag. Gave them a call and they sent a new one out, no cost. Even let me keep the ones they'd sent by mistake, so if they do that for the small stuff, I'd imagine that they'd do more of the same for a warped Thunderhawk or Warhound. Makes me curious if that's true or not.

I recently got the Inquisitorial TL-Psycannon Turrets, but sadly they come with just the guns and the targeter. You still have to have a spare Razorback turret of your own to build them.

I was not happy.

It's shame I fell in love with Elysians, otherwise I wouldn't be buying from them. But alas..

Wow, really? That sucks. I always though that it included the turret mount with the Psycannons.

And a question, since I'm curious - most of the problems with FW that I've seen people complain about are warped panels on large vehicles and such, but aside from Rhich's complaints about the Cadian respirator heads, has anyone had any problems with standard sized infantry from FW? I've been tempted to get Hector Rex as a painting piece at some point in the future, money providing.

It's stories like these that makes me think I'm a lucky man. As a Lean Six Sigma Black Belt and former Quality Department Supervisor, these stories hit close to home and are quite alarming.

I've ordered a few things from FW and had no issue. Granted, these are all newer models. Perhaps their older molds need replacing. In any event, it sounds like they need to improve Quality Control and have their employees take more pride and ownership in their work.

Stuff I've ordered: Black Templar Venerable Dreadnought, Dreadnought Plasma Cannon, Dreadnought Assault Cannon, 3x Mark III Powered Armor Marines.

I'm sure that doesn't hold a candle to some of your purchases, though.

OK. I've been working w/ FW resin for some time (and other kits). From 28mm stuff up to a Reaver titan.

Necron Pylon: A
Necron Tomb Stalker: A
Ork Killbusta tank: A
Daemon Prince of Khorne: A-(some broken bits...but very small stuff)
Rhino Doors/LR doors: A- (a little smaller then actual but no issue/not noticable once painted)
Reaver Titan: A-/B+ (1 piece required fitting and adjustments)

Thunderhawk (D): Truly a huge disappointment. Large, thick pieces were very warped. If this had been one of my first pieces of FW resin, I would have never gone back. Regardless. I was able to get it together in an acceptable manner but it sucked. Really.

Ed_Bodger wrote:Seriously how hard can it be to make Rhino doors that fit the hinges aren't even in the right place.

So far from Forge world I have bought:

2 x warhound titan
1 x thunderhawk
3 x rhino doors
1 x venerable dreadnaught

and other bits and none of them fit even though you pay through the nose for them. Anyone else experienced this?

Assuming you didn't order 2 Warhounds, 1 Thunderhawk, the rhino doors and dread all in one order, my question is what ever made you keep going back and ordering more stuff when you kept receiving gakked up kits?

Im literally astounded if FW does not use pressure casting for the resin kits.. For the amount of money they charge, they should be using pressure casting. That is pretty much the only reason I can see why they charge so much...

Saying that, I am glad the few complaints I ever have to deal with are mostly with delay of shipping (do to demand) and not miscast.

H.B.M.C. wrote:
This is basically the reason why I don't own any resin:

1. Valks.
2. Vultures.
3. Trygons.
4. Warhounds.
5. Thunderhawks.
6. Thunderbolt.

Because as soon as there's a hint of a glimpse of a whisper of a rumour that one of those might be coming in plastic, I swear off buying it. I didn't for the Baneblade, figuring the rumoured plastic one was still years away, and bought my Maximilian Wiseman's Baneblade and a Stormblade, and I regret doing so. Not so much for the Baneblade, but that blasted bloody Stormblade. A year later the plastic Baneblade comes out and a few months later the plastic/resin hybrid Stormblade.

For most of these I'd agree, but the FW Trygon looks infinitely better(at least to me) than the plastic. The plastic's itty bitty top most scythes puts me off after I had the chance to compare it to my FW version(bought a little after originally released), so much so that I'll forever be willing to spend the extra to buy more FW versions instead of the plastic.

Maybe we could organize a forgeworld boycott. The quality of the pieces is terrible, customer service is slow, and the prices are obscene. We could get together with other forums and just stop buying from them.

What do you think about an organized boycott?

DiscoVader wrote:Wow, really? That sucks. I always though that it included the turret mount with the Psycannons.

As did I. As I said, I was not pleased, especially as R-Back turrets aren't exactly cheap online. I managed to get 3, but still need a 4th one.

DiscoVader wrote:And a question, since I'm curious - most of the problems with FW that I've seen people complain about are warped panels on large vehicles and such, but aside from Rhich's complaints about the Cadian respirator heads, has anyone had any problems with standard sized infantry from FW? I've been tempted to get Hector Rex as a painting piece at some point in the future, money providing.

It depends on which of their infantry models you're ordering really.

I've got a stack of the Respirator heads and really they're fine. I've converted up a few metal Kasrkin doing headswaps with the Respirator heads (you're wondering “Why? Don't Kasrkin already have those heads?" to which the answer is yes they do, but the only Kasrkin you can actually convert into anything is the Sergeant, and he's not wearing a helmet, so I needed the swap), and they look fine overall, not too small. I have a few of the Cadian Veterans with the shotguns and they were disappointing because their waists are not the same size as the plastic legs they’re meant to go on. Forge World make great 28mm Guard models (their Death Korps models are to scale with Marines, unlike Cadians/Catachans that are too big), but unfortunately when they made the Cadian conversion kits they forgot that the models they’re meant to go with are 28mm heroic and therefore exaggerated. This means the Veteran Shotgunner bodies are too small (by a little bit). Very annoying. The full resin models, like the Cadian General, look pretty normal.

I’ve got a few Death Korp models (crew that came with my Macharius’) and they are good models. Friend of mine got a Death Korp HQ section (by accident... it just showed up in the box, he didn’t order it) and they are fantastic.

I’ve got Solomon Lok, Hector Rex, the Technical Servitor and the Tech-Priest and while I haven’t built them yet (the Tech-Priest will be a nightmare to build with all those spindly arms) from looking at the pieces they all look like good models that should work well. Rex’s henchmen are all one piece as well, and are as good as any of the 1-piece Henchmen/Servants that Scibor makes (minus the press-mould detail on big flat areas).

The Tech Priest's servo arms are annoying, but once on, I've yet to have a problem with them. The only time I've had them break was during the move from California to Colorado. Just make sure not to grab them or grab him in places that they get in the way when picking him up.

My only real problem with the model is that his base(at least on mine) is ~22-23mm and not actually the full 25mm of GW's bases due to shrinking while curing.

Platuan4th wrote:For most of these I'd agree, but the FW Trygon looks infinitely better(at least to me) than the plastic. The plastic's itty bitty top most scythes puts me off after I had the chance to compare it to my FW version(bought a little after originally released), so much so that I'll forever be willing to spend the extra to buy more FW versions instead of the plastic.

This is one of those effort vs reward things. Are there elements of the resin Trygon that are better? For sure. You mention the claws/talons, and yes, that’s one thing about the resin one that is superior. But then again I looked at the photos that FW used to have for the Trygon and part of that kit was a million billion little resin claws that run up its body (I might be exaggerating on the number a little bit). The plastic version has the same thing, but the difference is they’re plastic, and therefore a million billion times easier to put together.

I hate working with resin, and after my experiences with the Stormblade, the Manticores, Armageddon Basilisk and even the relatively easy Macharius, I consider plastic > resin when it comes to kits that are the same. If there’s a plastic version, I’ll take the plastic version, even if it is slightly inferior to the original*.


*The one exception to this is the GW ‘Blastscape’ that came out when Planetstrike was released. People should remember it. They were the horrifically bad vacu-formed pieces of horse gak that they advertised by showing off the painted resin masters. Given the option of resin vs the vacu-formed gak, I’d’ve taken the resin.

H.B.M.C. wrote:

This is one of those effort vs reward things. Are there elements of the resin Trygon that are better? For sure. You mention the claws/talons, and yes, that’s one thing about the resin one that is superior. But then again I looked at the photos that FW used to have for the Trygon and part of that kit was a million billion little resin claws that run up its body (I might be exaggerating on the number a little bit). The plastic version has the same thing, but the difference is they’re plastic, and therefore a million billion times easier to put together.

Ugh, you aren't kidding. Those things were a bastard to clear off their sprue without losing. I was ticked when my Trygon took a head dive down a flight of stairs(thanks to a box that wasn't secured properly on the bottom) and several of them snapped and vanished(but none of the big stuff came off).

And that's why I prefer plastic.

It's the reason I haven't bought the Khornate Daemon Prince (+Herald) despite how much I love that model - all the spikes and even the teeth on his shoulder pads are separate pieces. Feth that.

Holy crap, that seems like so much more work than it needs to be. I saw one of those painted down at the Showcase Comics in Bryn Mawr, but I didn't realize how many fiddly pieces there were on it. Damn.

Also, thanks for the info on the Hector Rex/etc. Good to know that they seem to be good models. Interesting to know that the retinue is made up of single-piece models, but I guess it makes sense if you think about it.

I much prefer the FW trygon to the plastic and I am happy they still produce it. However, I haven't had any of these problems. Then again, I have had minor bending issues on pieces I totally understand bending and its mostly tyranid stuff. We will see if I get this tomb Stalker for christmas though. I think I'll pick up a some pairs of tweezers for it.