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Just discovered this thread, I really like the last pics of the grot, but it looks like they're in a different place / different lighting so it's hard to compare to the earlier ones. It looks really, really good, though

For the Khornate model, I'm not so sure about the green. I don't know what to suggest- a darker green would be in danger of looking Christmas-y, but the green on there right now is really light/pale looking... not a color I'd expect a blood-ravenous Khorne warrior to choose

RiTides wrote:Just discovered this thread, I really like the last pics of the grot, but it looks like they're in a different place / different lighting so it's hard to compare to the earlier ones. It looks really, really good, though

For the Khornate model, I'm not so sure about the green. I don't know what to suggest- a darker green would be in danger of looking Christmas-y, but the green on there right now is really light/pale looking... not a color I'd expect a blood-ravenous Khorne warrior to choose

Thanks RiTides, I'm not sure I've ever seen you in a P&M Blog, let alone mine, so I'm glad you stepped in!

The place was the same but the time of the day was different, so the lighting is a bit different indeed... Thanks still!

As for the Khornate model, if that light green surprises you, what will the upcoming pics do to you !? I thought that light green would contrast nicely with the red, but it might not be that Khorn-y, for sure... And as I said, I'm pretty open-minded for those, so I tried something that I thought would be nice...
Still, the result doesn't appeal much to me, so I didn't manage to get to finish it...

Instead, I went with another one (thank you Jin again, for that load of primed CSMs!!!), this time with a more ancient, weathered feel.
Here's the result in 1.5hrs, not so bad for my usually-sluggish painting...


The red does look better than on the previous one IMHO, no?


With a small flame on the bolter


A tiny OSL on the eyes... But I should try another colour, for it lacks contrast in here...

Here are a few comments / questions :
- Verdigris is a bit sketchy, but I went fast, so I am aware of that;

- a few colours went overboard, same reason;

- mould lines & drilled guns : I got the minis as is from Jin, and didn't want to lose much time cleaning the mould lines, then brush-priming again, etc...

- The red is here : Black undercoat, Scab Red basecoat, highlighted with Blood Red and Sunburst Yellow. I think it looks much better that way, even though I didn't use any wash;

- Any suggestion on the eye colour? I painted the small details on the right-hand bolter with the same pale green from the previous mini, and it looks quite ok, so I was thinking something like that... I'm afraid red won't do any good...

I'm listening to suggestions that might help improve that scheme, but for now, I think it looks much better than the first one... And, with appropriate chainaxes and Berzerker bits, I'm sure they'll look like proper Khorne followers!

As it's Sunday toady, I'm making an exception and offering you two songs to listen to :

- Wake up, by the Lost Prophets ;

- (Kill - Maim -) [sorry, I couldn't resist for that one] Burn, by Black Bomb A.

Thanks for looking & listening!

Hmm. To be honest? A bit too much rust and weathering there. You've gone from one extreme (clean) to the other (weathered to the point of too much). The verdegris is spot on, especially if you choose to go with a bronzed scheme but the rust? A bit too much.

I'm sorry Yggs but that one doesn't do it for me. The bolter red is lovely though.

I think the rust could just be the wrong technique though - it looks like messy brown paint rather than rust. Maybe I'm just a bit too traditional but I think Khornate killers need to be brass and red.

Peter

Hey Yggs, great music selection!

I agree with both of the above posters. The verdigris and metallics look great! The orange just looks messy. Yellow or green for the eyes should work. Bolters look fine.

The reason the eyes don't work is that they're basically the same color as the verdigris. Given that, perhaps yellow would work better than green, unless you start with a Scorpion Green... which is kind of yellowish anyway.

#2 turned off computer whilst typing lengthy reply; in summary, very pretty, but decay = in my brain.

Love the 2nd ed plastic CSMs! The first image you posted said "Word Bearer" to me much more so than "World Eater". The second one seems Chaos Undivided because (to me) there's nothing specific that ties it to the cult of the Blood God.

Glad you're making the most of your all-expenses paid stay in the land of difficult and dangerous terrain. Looking forward to seeing more of your stuff.

DarkStarSabre wrote:Hmm. To be honest? A bit too much rust and weathering there. You've gone from one extreme (clean) to the other (weathered to the point of too much). The verdegris is spot on, especially if you choose to go with a bronzed scheme but the rust? A bit too much.

PDH wrote:I'm sorry Yggs but that one doesn't do it for me. The bolter red is lovely though.

I think the rust could just be the wrong technique though - it looks like messy brown paint rather than rust. Maybe I'm just a bit too traditional but I think Khornate killers need to be brass and red.

Gitsplitta wrote:Hey Yggs, great music selection!

I agree with both of the above posters. The verdigris and metallics look great! The orange just looks messy. Yellow or green for the eyes should work. Bolters look fine.

The reason the eyes don't work is that they're basically the same color as the verdigris. Given that, perhaps yellow would work better than green, unless you start with a Scorpion Green... which is kind of yellowish anyway.

@ Git : thanks for the comment on the music, at least you're making me feel I'm not wasting my time with that...

@ Git, PDH & Sabre : Ok, I might have been over-doing it, I agree... I wanted to try something quick and my mind was stuck with the nice contrast between orange & hawk turquoise, so I came up with that...

inmygravenimage wrote:#2 turned off computer whilst typing lengthy reply; in summary, very pretty, but decay = in my brain.

Lol, so now we have graven's #1/#2(/#3?) in addition to Git's T1/T2?

Too bad for the reply, but thanks for the comment : rust might feel too Nurgle-y indeed...

Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:Love the 2nd ed plastic CSMs! The first image you posted said "Word Bearer" to me much more so than "World Eater". The second one seems Chaos Undivided because (to me) there's nothing specific that ties it to the cult of the Blood God.

Glad you're making the most of your all-expenses paid stay in the land of difficult and dangerous terrain. Looking forward to seeing more of your stuff.

Well, if I was truly making the most of it, I'd have less time in my bunker-ed office (=less time on Dakka) and more time outside, but, ya know... The reference to difficult & dangereous terrain made me laugh, that was a good one!

The "Word Bearer" & "Generic" things is something that struck me too, so I can understand... I'm hoping the use of Berzerker parts will mark them as Khornate fighters!

As for the red, I'm glad you all seem to like it better... I might try a third guy with that red on it...

As for updates, I've begun work on a Scout yesterday, I might be able to post pics tomorrow or the day after... Something quite unusual I hope!

I must say I disagree with PDH and Gitsplitta about your rust. The technique is good, it looks like real rust to me, the point is that there shouldn't be that much rust .
The bolters are great.

When will you try the berzerker bitz?

Hyenajoe got the point there - there's just too much rust. It's not bad rust but....it's just....all there.

The red is spot on in that though - perhaps a test with that red armour, a rusty metal weapon and bronze trim with verdegris?

I have to agree with everyone else, rust is well done but it is wayy too much.

The red on the gun is beautiful

Hyenajoe wrote:I must say I disagree with PDH and Gitsplitta about your rust. The technique is good, it looks like real rust to me, the point is that there shouldn't be that much rust .
The bolters are great.

When will you try the berzerker bitz?

DarkStarSabre wrote:Hyenajoe got the point there - there's just too much rust. It's not bad rust but....it's just....all there.

The red is spot on in that though - perhaps a test with that red armour, a rusty metal weapon and bronze trim with verdegris?

DarkStarSabre, you might have found the solution!!! I'll have to try that, which answers Hyena's question too : one last pre-assembled, undercoated test mini, and then the real Khorne mess should begin!!!

Sageheart wrote:I have to agree with everyone else, rust is well done but it is wayy too much.

The red on the gun is beautiful

It seems we've reached an understanding, as of now...

As for the SM Scout, isn't anyone interested in it?

What scout?? Hard to comment on something with no pics.

Gitsplitta wrote:What scout?? Hard to comment on something with no pics.

What he said. Did I miss something?

Glad that comment about difficult / dangerous terrain cracked you up. Credit to my buddy Dwarf who got back from there in December. He's writing a campaign scenario based on his experiences there. I keep trying to get him to join Dakka. He's an IG player and his painting is way better than he gives himself credit for.

Anyway, back to topic... looking forward to seeing that Scout

The scout looks great! I really like the way the gun came out.*







*This is likely a response I will have when there are actual pics

I think Yggsie has drifted into the category of "heat zapped desert fanatic"... he's now imagining he's painted and posted minis and whining about it when we don't comment on them.

Hey Yggs.... DRINK SOME WATER!

Hey Yggs, awesome to see you back in the game, even when you're out and about in the desert!

I quite like the grot sniper, very cool- I like the look of his little post, excellent weathering, IMO.

Gotta go with the majority here on the Chaos guy- too much rust, but nicely done and a great example.

And finally... yea... umm... what scout are you talking about...? Is this one of those hidden DCM features, like a souped-up "Spoiler" bar?

Can't wait to see the scout. No, seriously. There's nothing there, man. Interest is here and waiting.

no scout..

Nope, we are clueless as well.

I like the little critter, good looking mini, I'm looking forward to converting some of these for my fantasy army. The chaos marine not as much, too much corrosion in my opinion. The music selections I'm getting, add some Sevendust to your rotation. And that looks like a damn prison cell you are working in, you sure you weren't thrown in jail for bad behaviour?

@ All: About that Scout... I had just said a word about how I hoped I would pull out something unusual, but no one seemed to be curious about it... So that's why I asked!

Now I sure got your attention, but I'm afraid I probably won't meet your expectations lol...

Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:Glad that comment about difficult / dangerous terrain cracked you up. Credit to my buddy Dwarf who got back from there in December. He's writing a campaign scenario based on his experiences there. I keep trying to get him to join Dakka. He's an IG player and his painting is way better than he gives himself credit for.

Anyway, back to topic... looking forward to seeing that Scout

Sure, have him join in here!!! I'm sure the campaign will be full of nastiness to rain upon the armies involved...

Also, that last sentence was the kind I was expecting lol...

whalemusic360 wrote:The scout looks great! I really like the way the gun came out.*

*This is likely a response I will have when there are actual pics

I hope that's I will get, WM!!!

Gitsplitta wrote:I think Yggsie has drifted into the category of "heat zapped desert fanatic"... he's now imagining he's painted and posted minis and whining about it when we don't comment on them.

Hey Yggs.... DRINK SOME WATER!

Maybe the 5-6 litres I drink every day aren't enough lol... It's the same kind of sensation as when I was in Chad : always thirsty, and always in need of going to the washroom... Not that comfortable...
Hopefully, there are a few beers available to change tastes!

HF Izanagi wrote:Hey Yggs, awesome to see you back in the game, even when you're out and about in the desert!

I quite like the grot sniper, very cool- I like the look of his little post, excellent weathering, IMO.

Gotta go with the majority here on the Chaos guy- too much rust, but nicely done and a great example.

And finally... yea... umm... what scout are you talking about...? Is this one of those hidden DCM features, like a souped-up "Spoiler" bar?

Can't wait to see the scout. No, seriously. There's nothing there, man. Interest is here and waiting.

Thanks for the Grot Sniper, it was merely an experiment who turned out better than expected! And a lil' funny thing too!
I think I'll try DarkStarSabre's suggestion about the colour scheme for the next Marine : Red Armour, bronze + verdigris trim, rusted details & weapons... That should do the job!

PsychosisPC wrote:I like the little critter, good looking mini, I'm looking forward to converting some of these for my fantasy army. The chaos marine not as much, too much corrosion in my opinion. The music selections I'm getting, add some Sevendust to your rotation. And that looks like a damn prison cell you are working in, you sure you weren't thrown in jail for bad behaviour?

I've been hoarding gnoblar, goblin, gretchin heads for months now, I'm just sad I didn't bring them along, it would add a touch of variety to them gits! And the model are quite appropriate for both fantasy & 40k, with a little work...
I don't know Sevendust, and the internet connection here is too slow for me to even think of trying... But I'll try and keep them in mind when I get home!
My room is tiny indeed, but I don't spend much time in it anyway, so it's not that important... Plus, it's a private room, which is much better than having to share a 6-men tent or a 2-men room, however more "modern" they are!!

After much wait (well, one day at most), here come the first pics of the first Achlysian Reavers Scout!







I find the "usual" SM Scout a bit boring, so I wanted to add more dynamism to them... And adding a big scope can never go wrong!!!
The base is still WIP of course, and I still have to sculpt his forefinger resting along the bolter... Then he can be painted in the Achlysian Reaver colours!!!!
What do you think about the pose? Does it sound right?

As for today's song : a fresh, french pop song by Superbus : Tchi Cum Bah

Cheers!

I like the pose of the scout - kneeling on the pipe and all.

But that targetting scope seems....big! Maybe it's just the camera angle?

DarkStarSabre wrote:I like the pose of the scout - kneeling on the pipe and all.

But that targetting scope seems....big! Maybe it's just the camera angle?

Agreed!
The pose is great but the scope...

Good choice for the song

Is that scope really OTT?

It's....big. Really big.

Almost bigger than the gun big.

Where's it from?

Scope looks like a standard scope, but overlarge, yeah. Maybe cut one from a scout bp? Great pose btw, is that the gunner from the LS Storm?

I'm assuming he's an embedded reporter for French Television... it's just an unfortunate circumstance that his camera body resembles a heavy bolter.

(that's not a bad idea actually)

And yes, that is a MASSIVE scope. Great pose though.

I like the pose, but especially on a "moving" model, I think the scope is just to big. Seems like one of those annoying over sized ones you see on DMRs sometimes.

LOL... Great scout man. The scope is a bit OTT, maybe file the nub on top to thin it down- but I totally know what you're going for. I've seen that look on those hunting rifles, but main difference is the rifle has that length and extra barrel, even WM's example has a small barrel leading the front.

Pose is excellent. I like the fact that you have interaction between base and model, and instead of a standard base where everything clings to the base, it's up and "floating" (if that makes sense...? ) One thing though... question, actually, is the thing he's stepping on a mine? It looks like his weight is breaking into whatever his foot is shifting over.

Anyways, good stuff- are you going to continue with the grot stuff? Or was that just a primer? And looking forward to the scout getting painted- I like your scheme on your SMs.

-Remi (HF Iz)

LOL HF... I was about to make that observation but you beat me to it (the mine thing).