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One day won't do anything. You need to get everyone you can to boycott for at least half a year-if not longer. One day means nothing to GW. Even just boycotting the month of June isn't enough. If you boycotted all summer...and everyone else did the same...we MIGHT see results. Instead of buying GW, we could all use the forums here and at bartertown to trade with other players-we all get new models and only pay the other person: GW doesn't see a dime of it.

For a WHOLE day? That will teach them!

LMAO

misfit wrote:Actually people should go into GW stores. Ask tons and tons of questions and then not buy anything. You're making the employees work, making GW pay employees but not buying anything. Not that this will really affect anything but to me it'd be kinda mocking to GW.

I do that all the time. I think the store hates me by now and I feel sorry for the poor redshirts that have to put up with me

"Hey cool new TK"
"Yup want to pre order anything?"
"Nope just browsing"
Awkward shuffling of feet occurs

Petitions Im onboard with signing, but doing the single day boycott literally does nothing. They MIGHT see a drop on Monday, but on Tuesday they see a spike. The ONLY way a boycott like that would work is if you could pull that off for say an entire month or hell better yet a quarter. That would show a company your serious. 1 Day or even a week wouldnt do squat

libstermiles wrote:Ok, how about a month? A month with a large proportion of British customers taking a seat would lower their income, quite a bit, there shares are already quivering, and have been predicited to crash about now,

Wrong.

If you are dissatisfied with how GW treats its wallets (customers), then STOP buying any GW related products forever. Period. GW doesn't care about you like they did before they went public, and GW will continue to treat its supposed "hobbyists" like walking ATMs because you guys don't learn.

Stop feeding from the hand that hits you.

Vote with your wallet.

How about all GW players create an investment group, pool together their money, buy some shares, then we all go to the shareholders meeting and throw a fit until we are treated like customers and not money cattle?


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mikhaila wrote:
And if you do follow through with this, how about picking a date when GW one man shops, and US independents are actually open? July 4th was a date designed to fail in the first place. Doing something like this and failing is worse than doing nothing. It proves to GW they can sit back and not care.

Even if they chose a date they were open, a one day boycott is less effective than standing in front of GW stores saying "Ni!" to anyone trying to enter but choosing a holiday is an order of magnitude greater fail. If you want to make a real effect, just make everyday a boycott GW day. Buy something else instead from whatever retailer you frequent.

DaNewBoy wrote:How about all GW players create an investment group, pool together their money, buy some shares, then we all go to the shareholders meeting and throw a fit until we are treated like customers and not money cattle?


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In theory, this might not be such a bad idea: if everyone pitched in 5 bucks from the community (not walletbreaking; price equivalents for people not in the US) and we got a couple shares of stock (how much is it currently per share, whoever follows this?), we could have people go to shareholder meetings and make our concerns known. Someone eloquent could also draw up a (don't shoot me) declaration of independence against GW and list our complaints and have everyone involved sign it. This would take place at their shareholder meeting, with hard evidence that their "fans" are openly rebelling against them. If we own a portion (albeit a small one) of the company, they can't throw us out for making our complaints and feelings known. The key though, is to approach this topic as adults-not petulant children.

Sorry to steal your thunder NewBoy

Best comment I've seen was the one about how GW players are being treated.( see below.)

My advice? Take the red pill, Neo. A better idea then the boycott for one day is to just put them away and "boycott" them for six monthsto a year.
Move on to something else.

Me? I'm through the phases of rejection, and am done with thier BS. We'll start talking about something other then " GW ate my baby!" Subject has been done to death, and it's well past conversational material.

"BOYCOTT" for one day doesn't work when GW owns the union.


"But the average GWombie is like the stupid girl who always, always, goes back to the abusive boyfriend. No matter how he beats her, no matter how gak he treats her, she will always go back for more and make excuses for him.

GW will succeed with this and the price of RandomCast will go up every year.
The abused GWombie will always find excuses why they go back.
Sad but true."- Rev Nice, over on Frothers.

Grot 6 wrote:"But the average GWombie is like the stupid girl who always, always, goes back to the abusive boyfriend. No matter how he beats her, no matter how gak he treats her, she will always go back for more and make excuses for him.

GW will succeed with this and the price of RandomCast will go up every year.
The abused GWombie will always find excuses why they go back.
Sad but true."- Rev Nice, over on Frothers.

No Grot 6, you don't understand. They do these things because they love us. It's just that they find it hard to control their passion, so sometimes they have to raise prices and place embargoes. You just don't understand our relationship.

htj wrote:No Grot 6, you don't understand.

I am suddenly reminded of this. Perhaps metaphorically, someone is the dog

htj wrote:

Grot 6 wrote:"But the average GWombie is like the stupid girl who always, always, goes back to the abusive boyfriend. No matter how he beats her, no matter how gak he treats her, she will always go back for more and make excuses for him.

GW will succeed with this and the price of RandomCast will go up every year.
The abused GWombie will always find excuses why they go back.
Sad but true."- Rev Nice, over on Frothers.

No Grot 6, you don't understand. They do these things because they love us. It's just that they find it hard to control their passion, so sometimes they have to raise prices and place embargoes. You just don't understand our relationship.

... Thank you GW, may I have another!

Grot 6 wrote:... Thank you GW, may I have another!

Now you're getting it! The pain you feel is loooooove.

timetowaste85 wrote:

DaNewBoy wrote:How about all GW players create an investment group, pool together their money, buy some shares, then we all go to the shareholders meeting and throw a fit until we are treated like customers and not money cattle?


EDIT: Spelling

In theory, this might not be such a bad idea: if everyone pitched in 5 bucks from the community (not walletbreaking; price equivalents for people not in the US) and we got a couple shares of stock (how much is it currently per share, whoever follows this?), we could have people go to shareholder meetings and make our concerns known. Someone eloquent could also draw up a (don't shoot me) declaration of independence against GW and list our complaints and have everyone involved sign it. This would take place at their shareholder meeting, with hard evidence that their "fans" are openly rebelling against them. If we own a portion (albeit a small one) of the company, they can't throw us out for making our complaints and feelings known. The key though, is to approach this topic as adults-not petulant children.

Sorry to steal your thunder NewBoy

No that's cool. Actually, I was thinking of buying out a significant portion (not with my meager income buy with the "F Gamesworkshop Investment Group") and then threatening to liquidate if our demands are not met/taken seriously. Basically, you have to get them at the wallet. Customers are not scarey because where one falls, another will bloom. Investors are another animal.

Total waste of time, kids, sorry...

In this hobby, we're all addicted to our army men. If you buy full price, GW makes money. If you buy from a discounter, GW still makes money. If you buy cheapy old used stuff, well, GW sold them before so they still made money at some point.

If you boycott for 1 day, GW still makes money because all us nerds that couldn't buy for that one day, is just gonna buy whatever the wanted the day before, or the day after, or they'll totally ignore a boycott that won't work and buy on that day anyway.

GW = the borg. Resistance is futile.

mikhaila wrote: 'Done about...'? Yeah, let's elaborate on that one. You offering me a month long vacation so I'm not around to order? Going to convince Maelstrom that instead of selling thousands in GW, you'll make it up to them by somehow? Businesses are set up to make money, I don't see how this plan of yours makes them money, so why should they go along.

Hell, I bet Maelstrom and Wayland clink champagne glasses when GW raises prices. They know gamers will still buy models, but the higher the price goes the more likely they'll buy from a discounter. Price increases and neardrage are their bread and butter.

This is, for me, probably the BEST post I've read on this subject so far , so much truth in so few sentences!!

Sir, people are not gonna understand this, and it may well be lost in the deluge of denial and "nerdrage".....but rest assured that your voice has been heard by one Dakkite

edited to avoid confusion....this post was NOT intended as sarcasm.

curtistandoh wrote:The way to make an impact is to stop buying directly from stores. This video that somebody has made basically sums up my views:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atE28xX4_wk&feature=related

Yeah pretty much me too.

It's still better than rolling over like a dog and accepting the kick we know is coming. I think Tim Allen said it best when parodied William Shatner:

"Never give up! Never surrender!" the borg/GW. It's worth the attempt to show them how upset we are-and it's not like I was suggesting everyone throw a HUGE chunk of change in-it's less than buying two paint-pots. How's that for sad?

kenshin620 wrote:

misfit wrote:Actually people should go into GW stores. Ask tons and tons of questions and then not buy anything. You're making the employees work, making GW pay employees but not buying anything. Not that this will really affect anything but to me it'd be kinda mocking to GW.

I do that all the time. I think the store hates me by now and I feel sorry for the poor redshirts that have to put up with me

"Hey cool new TK"
"Yup want to pre order anything?"
"Nope just browsing"
Awkward shuffling of feet occurs

Lol. Yeah i bet they love you.

I actually think you'd cause more of a stir if you did what I've seen Costa coffee staff do in the local town, which is take a costa banner with 'where up this way' down and hang out near Neros.

So yeah, see if you can get Warmachine/Hordes or Infiinty stuff together, go hang outside your nearest GW and chat to folks as they go in.

"Want to hear about the wargamming Hobby sir, think you'll find much more than GW if you care to look."

I could see that driving staff to distraction, enough to inform someone one highier up the chain I'm sure.

Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:

"Want to hear about the wargamming Hobby sir, think you'll find much more than GW if you care to look."

I could see that driving staff to distraction, enough to inform someone one highier up the chain I'm sure.

Some people will stop. I never stop to talk to people on the street unless they have girl scout cookies.

Otherwise, even if you have banging double D's, I don't want to hear about your politics, protests, or whatever.

I can see that driving the staff to call the mall cops. Who are known for their level headed and unbiased open-mindedness.

Oh, and tazers...did I mention tazers?

kronk wrote:Some people will stop. I never stop to talk to people on the street unless they have girl scout cookies.

Very true, I usually pass off people shouting on the street as loonies unless they got cookie boxes to sell or are part of the salvation army. It'll all depend on the type of people who go to said stores I suppose

misfit wrote:

curtistandoh wrote:The way to make an impact is to stop buying directly from stores. This video that somebody has made basically sums up my views:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atE28xX4_wk&feature=related

Yeah pretty much me too.

Im almost at that point now. I agreed with alot of what that guy was saying. I think Im at that point, where Ive played 40k for so long (about 12 or so years now) That I really dont want to just say well thats it, it was a nice run see ya! Ive invested so much time and money into playing 40k. But at the same time, they are doing things that just pisses me off immensely and Im asking myself why? Why am I still playing then?

Aye, no idea how it'd work in malls as they are a buisness in the private property, however most GW's in the Uk are on the High Street.

Well usually a side street to the high street, anyways.

Said many times one this thread, one day won't do it. One month (aka a reporting period that will be heavily scrutinized) would do something, but not one day. If you make it July 01 to July 31 then GW will listen.

Some people in this thread sorely need a crash course in Economics.

KingCracker wrote: Why am I still playing then?

If you enjoy the game and the fluff, then keep playing with your friends.

Just stop buying new stuff if you feel they have slighted you or treated you unfairly.

I won't stop playing. I have a great gaming group and really enjoy the game and the HH series. I'm not going to start that 2000 point DE army I was thinking about, though. And I wrote GW a letter to tell them why and how much money that just lost.

Not only is it a boycott...
it is only a one day boycot!

whoooooo
Mr Wells must be gakking out the board room afearing the worst.

And this is possibly the worst protest but at least it made me laugh.

and in fairness it will make Mr. Wells laugh too so we at least have one thing in common.

How about this, If you hate the prices and are just too addicted to quit buying, pay in all pennies. (only at physical gw stores please, oher gaming stores don't deserve this)
extra credit for mailing gw online a big box of pennies to pay for your order.

It won't hurt them a bit but at least they'll notice when stores keep telling hq about it.