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You can count on me for this boycott! I was weak and bought the Vampire Counts Army Book a few months ago to help plan what undead I was going to buy from Mantic Games and that interrupted my past three-or-so years of not buying Games Workshop, but I'm back on the wagon, now.

Go-Go Boycott!

redstripe wrote:You can count on me for this boycott! I was weak and bought the Vampire Counts Army Book a few months ago to help plan what undead I was going to buy from Mantic Games and that interrupted my past three-or-so years of not buying Games Workshop, but I'm back on the wagon, now.

Go-Go Boycott!

Continueing to not buy after not buying for 3 years won't really affect GW at all.)

A one day boycott is fine and dandy, but will do little to stem the tide. A prolonged boycott and continuous bad PR for GW will have better results.
Afterall, this is the age of the Internet. You can develop a grass roots movement, get people involved, take action and ultimately affect GW's bottom line.

Yeah boycott because my toy soldier went up a dollar.

I hate this crap.

TCWarRoom wrote:Yeah boycott because my toy soldier went up a dollar.

I hate this crap.

+1

Ouze's Secret Guide to "Defeating" Games Workshop, a.k.a The Evil Empire


1.) Just quit buying their stuff, from anywhere. Not Ebay, not Amazon, Not Bartertown. That's all. Don't sing a song or organize a boycott or a petition or a facebook campaign or twitterbombing. Just stop buying their stuff, and continue to play with what you already have. Or play with someone else's really cool stuff. Try out At43, or Dust tactics, or Warmachines, or games like Last Night on Earth.

2.) That's it.

3.) That's all.

crowe wrote:A one day boycott is fine and dandy, but will do little to stem the tide. A prolonged boycott and continuous bad PR for GW will have better results.
Afterall, this is the age of the Internet

Games Workshop has a 2+ Invunerable save vs The Internet.

Games Workshop has a 2+ Invunerable save vs The Internet.

The Final Boss ignores all saves.

They also get to re-roll failed saves....

so overpowered...

Ouze wrote:Ouze's Secret Guide to "Defeating" Games Workshop, a.k.a The Evil Empire

crowe wrote:A one day boycott is fine and dandy, but will do little to stem the tide. A prolonged boycott and continuous bad PR for GW will have better results.
Afterall, this is the age of the Internet

Games Workshop has a 2+ Invunerable save vs The Internet.

and FNP.

And, for the heck of it, a We'll Be Back role of 2+. On a 1, they come back with all of their wounds though...

I personally pledge to spend at least $50 each week the of the month that this ridiculous boycott occurs.

Xelkireth wrote:I personally pledge to spend at least $50 each week the of the month that this ridiculous boycott occurs.

I have an even better idea! Send an additional $50 to me each week! That'll really stick it to these boycotters!

I'm good. I think trying to boycott is a ridiculous idea. If you're that riled up about it, just quit. I'll be posting what I've bought too. Might as well put my money where my mouth is.

krazynadechukr wrote:I think that anyone and everyone that has a beef or rant about GW, or qualms, or concerns, or issues with prices & getting started, or reservations about this hobby, SHOULD stay away from GW stores & the hobby, sell off your minis, and get a new hobby....

That'll show GW!

& Give the rest of us gamers who enjoy the hobby a break!

And for that, I thank and support you!

Now get going TODAY!

While I appreciate and respect that you are entitled to an opinion, you seem to have a problem respecting that other's are also entitled to their own.

However, many of us have invested in this hobby for the past 20+ years and have been through the ups and downs. If you have also, that's great! If not, then you probably missed the finer points such as GW used to sell the products and games of *gasp* other companies and now they deny the existence of 48 other gaming systems and miniature warfare mini lines. GW also used to be run by ordinary people, who were concerned for their customers and the hobby.

It is the last 3-5 years that GW has backflipped on these ideals and more that has brought forth the growing concerns from the customer base.

Despite the economy, GW's pricing and actions now go against the spirit of the hobby. Not to mention good business practices. This is why many are becoming dissatisfied with the entity formerly loved as GW.

I hope you now possess some understanding and if you wish to discuss this in further detail I am happy to sit down with you to go into further detail.

Nah, whether long-term or short-term boycott on GW's Plastic model won't affect them anyway.
They have other source of income such as licensing their IP to VIDEO GAME maker (Dawn Of War series, the upcoming Space Marine and Warhammer 40k MMO). Even if they did shut down their plastic model, they could move on to the *gulp* video game market.

Boycotts never work unless they're massive, permanent, hinging only on a change of conditions the other party is aware of and able to meet. As a large corporate entity, GW will never notice this unless it spread like the plague and was a long-term problem for their sales forcasts. I can assure you you're wasting your time here, although I will not criticize your motivation, I can certainly understand that.

I agree with many of the others here, if you want to send a message to GW, albeit one they'll never acknowledge on an individual level, just stop buying their products, period.
Make a deal with your gaming group to buy into a new gaming system/etc. Stay out of the GW purchases for a year or two, and if enough people do the same thing, it could potentially matter. The odds are, probably not, but that's the best chance you have with something like this.

Ultimately, what will hurt GW the most is when their prices finally reach critical mass and only the fanboys will be the ones pulling the trigger on purchases of their product. Then, and only then, will the fanboys will see how outnumbered (and undervalued by GW) they are. I've seen this in the video game sector for years. Even the most gak-tastic titles have the fanboys that buy them on day 1 of release, but when the masses don't, the company adjusts to make a better product/value.

Until then, deal with it however you have to, but don't be naive. Money talks, BS walks. GW isn't going to let you rock their boat until their revenue stream becomes a concern they cannot ignore. It really is that simple I am afraid.

I say do it if it makes you feel good and that you think you did something despire what others say or think.

Shady Pigeon wrote:I've been hearing a lot about GWs shares being 'shaky' recently. I have an extraordinarily low level of knowledge when it comes to economics, but looking at this chart, it seems that for the last 3 years, GWs shares have been doing pretty damn well?

http://www.lse.co.uk/ShareChart.asp?sharechart=GAW

I really dislike most of the talked about policies that GW has rolled out recently, but it doesn't appear to be affecting their share price, or the value of the company as a whole.

Yeah, the price was higher in March then it was at it's peak 5 years ago, before the GEC. They've dropped a bit since then, but they've levelled out it seems....

A boycot would do nothing, unless you can get a large majority of the gaming population to not buy anything from anywhere, including independent stockists, and convince the independent stockists not to order either. And all of that for over a month.

Just no.

I may have misunderstood, but they are presently at an all time high, compared to the last five years. Their low this month beats their high five years ago.

Their stock started solidly climbing with the rest of the global economy.

Don't ever stop doing something you love. Find a way to do it that will keep you satisfied. GW prices are absurd. However, in the past decade that their prices have doubled and sometimes tripled, the quality of their products has doubled and sometimes tripled. It's a shame that it stirs up so much controversy and outrage, but the simple fact remains that it is the greatest tabletop wargame hobby. Best all around. It is also an exclusive club of sorts. GW has dillusions of grandeur brought on by the one ring, but their products are top tier. It costs too much. That's a fact. Any outsider will take one look at the price and tell you that you are stupid for playing this game. I hope a happy medium can be found that will restore balance to the force...er warp, where developers can still produce the constant enflux of new bad ass merchandise without keeping their customer base broke virgins for life.

EYEofTERROR wrote:What is with all of the black and white? Pay up or leave the GW aspect of the hobby. That statement is ridiculous. I have been in love with the warhammer 40k IP for nearly 20 years, but I absolutely hate the price I have to pay retail. I will never quit doing something that I love, but I will also fight for what I believe to be reasonable prices. I have no loyalty to GW. My love is for the 40k universe no matter what the price, I will always love it. I refuse to pay what gw think it's worth and I am intelligent enough to find ways around it. However, when someone tells someone to allow their pocketbooks to be raped or stop pursuing something you truly enjoy, I have to step in and say "F-U", fascist. Fight for fair prices with tooth and nail.

The problem here is that you are emotionally invested in a relationship with a party that absolutely does not have an emotional investment in you. GWS is a company running a business, not your aloof girlfriend. The passion, internal investment and self-identification that some people get with their material possessions is something that only serves to be abused by those same corporations for profit (GWS, Apple).

At the end of the day, it's a business for you to take or leave. The only sort of thought you should make about whether or not to purchase these items are the ROI; if the happiness you get from what you buy is equal to or greater then the happiness you can get elsewhere for the same entertainment dollar. That's it.

Ouze wrote:

At the end of the day, it's a business for you to take or leave. The only sort of thought you should make about whether or not to purchase these items are the ROI; if the happiness you get from what you buy is equal to or greater then the happiness you can get elsewhere for the same entertainment dollar. That's it.

Blasphemer! The Emperor is my GOD! It is not a business! It's the future of MANKIND! The word of the Emperor is LAW.

LOL. You are absolutely correct. Nothing else can satiate my appetite for this hobby. All other games are mere distractions....and I play many tabletop/board games/ rpgs. So the dollars I spend on GW, whether it be from retail or personal collections, give me more happiness than an equal amount spent on anything else. Plus, so long as you have skill, you may as well be buying gold or jewels. It retains it's value better than the American dollar.

Considering that I only make a few purchases from GW a every once in a while. I guess you could say that I boycott them about 360 days out of the year.

GW products are not a basic need or anything close.
If you don't like the price (like me) just quit buying their stuff.
Don't do a boycott and then start buying again, boycotts hardly ever work and when they do there is very important things that need to change, not just the price of your hobby (ex: Food cost, working conditions). That's like saying let's boycott apple because their products are overpriced (and they are), if you think apple products are overpriced why buy them? There are plenty of alternatives for you.

Instead of complaining, just encourage indie miniature producers like TFM or Kromlech to name a few. If games workshop do produce things I think are worth my money I'll buy them, but for now the price doesn't meet the quality.

A single day is completely worthless.

I you had "boycott GW QUARTER " then that would have an influence.

If you're not willing to do that then move along, nothing to see here.

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_109577025797447&ap=1
This group I've joined has managed to get someone up to OZ HQ and voiced our concerns at a meeting over there. It will be passed on to higher-ups. Let's hope something good comes out of it.

How about stop buying G.W. for life... "day" go spend some money at Corvus...

Don't buy the garbage anymore... could care less... just thought I'd pump Infinity for a second...

try infinity it's better than G.W.

G.W. is mean Corvus is not..

G.W. laughs at you
Corvus will love you and hold you close...

G.W. thinks your a straight up chump

Corvus will respect you and keep you from being sold in the prison yard for 2 packs of smoke and a hit a tar herion..

Play infinity you'll be Happier and live a longer life...

I'll pass.

5deadly wrote:How about stop buying G.W. for life... "day" go spend some money at Corvus...

Don't buy the garbage anymore... could care less... just thought I'd pump Infinity for a second...

try infinity it's better than G.W.

G.W. is mean Corvus is not..

G.W. laughs at you
Corvus will love you and hold you close...

G.W. thinks your a straight up chump

Corvus will respect you and keep you from being sold in the prison yard for 2 packs of smoke and a hit a tar herion..

Play infinity you'll be Happier and live a longer life...

This made me lol.

Like said we need to do something about thisµ.

But i don't think a boycot is the solution.

The ones who will really suffer from it is the little independant stores and clubs.

And even if you say "i don't buy from a GW store,but still do in a local Indy Store" then their still gotta get mpney from somewhere!

What we migth really do is a Flashmob,where 100's or even 1000's peoples begins to install tables and play on the street, or something like that...