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libstermiles wrote:I have changed the event to the whole of July 1st-31st, this is a high point for Games Workshop. if everyone is in the frame of mind ' not enough will do it, it cant work.' then it won't, we need as many people to attend as possible.

...surely you mean not attend?

Man the pointless nerd rage is amazing.

Someone made a comparison to crack in the beginning of this thread, I think they basically summed it up there.

The dealer keeps raising the price on you and you keep getting mad but man...he has the best crack.

Good luck wasting you time with the boycott. Do us all a favor if you're that angry at GW and to weak willed to pick up any of the other dozen table top games out there; keep it to yourself.

Yeah,
We all hate a price rise but this is stupid.
to to mention the fact that most people don't buy something every month!

Also it's not news or a rumour, just a pathetic cry for attention...

This kinda crap makes dakka look stupid.
Those on the outside looking in are laughing their asses off F.F.S.

I vote it gets moved to OT and/or locked...

Panic...

Panic wrote:Panic...

I didn't notice this was your username at first and thought it was an instruction. Now I can't stop panicking!

Its a pity you couldnt do something like boycott Games Days

Can someone help clarify something for me?


This is a huge and ongoing rant about GW's prices, about how they have been spiraling out of control to the point where it is nearly unaffordable to the average gamer. Apposed to this, are the other wargame companies who 'look out for the little guy' and keep their prices low so that everyone can afford to collect them.

So since this has been going on for years, surely GW products have to be what, twice, three times the price of the competition?

A squad of 5 standard-sized resin infantry costs between £20.5 and £23

For Malifaux, a boxed starter set of 5 standard sized infantry costs between £18.80 & £25
Infanity - about £13 for 2, which makes it around £32.5 for 5

Mantic appear to be an exception at only £13 for 10, but Scibor minatures who also make resin substitues for 40k appear to charge £9 per soldier.


...so from what I can see, GW prices aren't really out of wack with the competition at all. The only difference is that I field an equilivent of a 1500pt game of Malifaux with only about £40 pound on figures. But 40K does require a big investiment to play that 1500 game - it's cost me about £150 to get there. But that's what 40k is about - comparitively big armies smashing into one another.

If the price of the game is too much, then perhaps a game with a smaller modelcount is more in your price range? If not, why are you expecting GW to subsidise you?

MIKEtheMERCILESS wrote:Can someone help clarify something for me?


This is a huge and ongoing rant about GW's prices, about how they have been spiraling out of control to the point where it is nearly unaffordable to the average gamer. Apposed to this, are the other wargame companies who 'look out for the little guy' and keep their prices low so that everyone can afford to collect them.

So since this has been going on for years, surely GW products have to be what, twice, three times the price of the competition?

A squad of 5 standard-sized resin infantry costs between £20.5 and £23

For Malifaux, a boxed starter set of 5 standard sized infantry costs between £18.80 & £25
Infanity - about £13 for 2, which makes it around £32.5 for 5

Mantic appear to be an exception at only £13 for 10, but Scibor minatures who also make resin substitues for 40k appear to charge £9 per soldier.


...so from what I can see, GW prices aren't really out of wack with the competition at all. The only difference is that I field an equilivent of a 1500pt game of Malifaux with only about £40 pound on figures. But 40K does require a big investiment to play that 1500 game - it's cost me about £150 to get there. But that's what 40k is about - comparitively big armies smashing into one another.

If the price of the game is too much, then perhaps a game with a smaller modelcount is more in your price range? If not, why are you expecting GW to subsidise you?

Im Australian, so that £150 is now £300 - £400 or around 10x more than Malifaux. Rinse and repeat with other gaming systems untill the bare facts of reality cause you to spiral into an uncontrolable rage, followed by a deep hollowness and bitter regret as you look at your now blood soaked living room.

..and as was pointed out on the other threads on this, the average disposable income, and therefore a damn good indication of "what the market will bear", is higher in Aus than elsewhere.

Or, to put it simpler: why doesnt everyone in the UK nerdrage about MS selling Windows for $1 in <insert random developing country here>?

This boycott will achieve precisely nothing. THat time of the year NOT having regulars in the shop, so they can get more people on the crack habit, is probably a good thing....

Like the rising of hemlines, this is the season for the GWS boycott thread. Railing against either gets you to the same place (nowhere), so good luck with your endeavors.

nosferatu1001 wrote:..and as was pointed out on the other threads on this, the average disposable income, and therefore a damn good indication of "what the market will bear", is higher in Aus than elsewhere.

Or, to put it simpler: why doesnt everyone in the UK nerdrage about MS selling Windows for $1 in <insert random developing country here>?

This boycott will achieve precisely nothing. THat time of the year NOT having regulars in the shop, so they can get more people on the crack habit, is probably a good thing....

Uh, what?

I was mearly pointing out that his reasonable argument, that GW and Their competitors models are still comparitvly priced, dose not hold true for all localitys in the world.

P.S Also your oringinal argument and many others like them are illl informed, badly argued and tindged with misdirected jelousy. After all Australians work the most hours of any developed nation to earn that wage so they can afford the high cost of living in this country. And hey, despite only 1.3% of Australians working in the high paying (and long hours) mining industry, im sure we all can afford higher prices, am I right or am I right! damn it!

P.S.S I also hereby also invite you to my living room for... er.. further.. discussion, at our lesure.

I'm torn between not supporting GW as a larger company, and supporting my local FLGWS. The guys in there are great, friendly, hard working, and passionate about their hobby, as I'm sure it is for mostother FLGWS. I want to keep them in a job, and the store that really does a lot for my community in business. It seems like the only way to do that is to buy in smaller quantities and possibly less frequently.

Erm, no jealousy, actually. I earn comfortably above the uk average....

Your own government provides the facts, so your anger is directed at the wrong source.

Oh, and did noone mention that working longer and longer hours actually reduces productivity overall?

Frankly: GW does not give a flying rat if *everyone* can afford it. Enough people are able to, that is all that matters for a *hobby*

If you dont like it, its not compulsory....

If anyone wants a boycott to work, it MUST show up in their financial reports.

The most significant way for it to show up in financial reports is if the boycott is for the length of the reporting period.

6 Months is the minimum a successful boycott can last.

If you are serious, you will accept this and/or only purchase second hand until then.

Solourus wrote:

nosferatu1001 wrote: pretending he has an MBA after reading an online article about Australia or something...

Uh, what?

Don't feed the trolls, dude. Just let him think what he wants to think. You'll never convince him otherwise.

There is no way anyone can defend Australia getting as boned as they are on price.

nosferatu1001 wrote:

Your own government provides the facts, so your anger is directed at the wrong source.

Oh, and did noone mention that working longer and longer hours actually reduces productivity overall?

Frankly: GW does not give a flying rat if *everyone* can afford it. Enough people are able to, that is all that matters for a *hobby*

If you dont like it, its not compulsory....

My Government provides me with the facts that prove you wrong (Actualy this is a lie, I dont actualy know what your talking about in regards to this, seems like a wired comment to make)

Desides im not angry im deleriously, uh, happy? in a wired kind of imoral way that involves painting the new living room red. Fun

GW not caring is my biggest reason for not buying their models, also GW is not *the hobby* it is one company that can supply models and rules for the *hobby*

I know its not compulsory, never suggested it was, dont know why you think I might think it is, dosent stop me from voicing options or talking in a constructive way about comparitive models and their costs in Australia. Also now collecting Infinity and buying alternitive models for 40k.

I don't see what one day will do. Especially when as other's have mentioned, people boycotting will probably just buy on another day.

I know it's hard because most people live and breathe warhammer but if you really feel strongly about this you need to quit. Go and play something else. Seriously warmachine/hordes for example is a great game. It's different to 40k and that scares people but when you actually get into it you see how fun and polished it is you will wonder why you didn't try it out sooner. Also it's cheap to get started. A 15pt warmachine army is actually quite fun and goes much further than a 500pt 40k army before becoming boring.

My hope is that enough people will truly quit 40k for a period of time long enough to dissolve the monopoly in the war gaming industry. A situation where there are three or more big players all roughly equal would greatly benefit gamers. If such a situation came to pass and from it 40k was fairly priced and of a higher standard, that I think would be when I get back into 40k.

To whole thread and facebook page.. lols

Maybe the next crusade should be boycotting Starbukcs because all their prices will be going up 17% on coffee.....

Man, I'm pissed. Just today gas prices went up again! That's like the the 31st time this month. Back when gas was only $2.50 (I'm American) a gallon, I spent about $82.50 a month on gas. Now that around where I lived is about $4.00 a gallon, I get to spend $160.00 a month. In one year, I get to spend upwards of $1920.00 on gas alone. For many others around the world, it's more than this. Seeing that comparison, the money I spend on video games or GW models seems like almost nothing. I'm not saying don't boycott GW. Heck, might as well attempt it so prices have a shot at going down. The real enemy, however, is corporations as a whole that work together in increasing prices in order to make profits while keeping up competition amongst themselves. Fix that problem, and maybe all prices will decrease.

kinghammer wrote:To whole thread and facebook page.. lols

Maybe the next crusade should be boycotting Starbukcs because all their prices will be going up 17% on coffee.....

I've been boycotting Starbucks for years on the grounds of being morally opposed to putting overpriced coffee that tastes like tarmac in my mouth. So far, my campaign has been very successful, and I have received several increasingly desperate letters from the company headquarters, begging me to give them my custom. Did you know that every new drink they come up with is an effort to woo me back? True story.

FalkorsRaiders wrote: Heck, might as well attempt it so prices have a shot at going down. The real enemy, however, is corporations as a whole that work together in increasing prices in order to make profits while keeping up competition amongst themselves. Fix that problem, and maybe all prices will decrease.

That's called price fixing and that's illegal. The "big oil companies" don't do that. I used to work for one of the biggest (ExxonMobil).

The price of gas is directly tied to the cost of a barrel of oil, refining costs, taxes (generally 20-40 cents), and transportation costs.

If you hadn't noticed, there's been a bit of unrest in the middle east this year. That will ALWAYS kick prices in the pants. Mainly because of speculators. Of course, since there is ALWAYS something going on the middle east, this is nothing new.

That's the 1 cent version of "Why gas prices are so high." I don't have time for anything else. Take it to the off-topic forum if you want a more lengthy discussion.

I boycott companies based on the entertainment/information level of their advertisement.

Example: Carfax (the "car fox" mascot... seriously...)

Not gonna argue with someone who knows more than me. All I was trying to say is that I don't mind spending money on models when I compare the prices to other things that cost more. I also say that the boycott, even if people say its stupid, is worth doing because even the smallest chance of a price decrease is interesting and enjoyable. I personally won't be a part of it, and I know people will say I am being hurtful to the cause, but the thing is I won't be buying anything 'til August, so for now, work on boycotting so my precious necron pieces' prices are lowered.

Instead of just boycotting why not really get im where it hurts and spend that gaming money somewhere else.

Another game system or even video games, etc.

I am going to drop 300 dollars on three other games!!!!
That will give me a full army in each system approximatley. Share the wealth promote competition the capitalist way.

Even at current prices you would be strained to get a full warhammer army in either of their systems.

I feel like every time I go to a GW store I should bring alot of vaseline
Bend over, here comes finecast

Not pumping gas for a day always works with the oil companies. It's not too far fetched that a tiny group of gamers boycotting GW product for an entire day will cause sweeping changes to the way GW deals with pricing.

poipo32 wrote:Because buying it the next day has that much of an impact.

boycott month then....

I agree though, I would prefer to do it boston tea-party style

Joshawa wrote:Not pumping gas for a day always works with the oil companies. It's not too far fetched that a tiny group of gamers boycotting GW product for an entire day will cause sweeping changes to the way GW deals with pricing.

Good lord! This sarcasm detector is off the scale!

I can't recall a time a hobby/gaming boycott actually worked.

I would also hazard a guess that GW believes themselves to be in a fairly strong position, with setting up multi-year agreements with both Relic Entertainment and Warner Bros.

The only way I can see any change is if they're destroyed on the inside, i.e. Lorraine Williams mismanagement of TSR. While it may seem like GW is doing similarly, it's nowhere near that bad. Also keep in mind that Williams, even with the mismanagement, held onto TSR for 11 years until they were bought by WoTC in 98.

good idea but make it a month , not a day..

Dont they look at quarterly sales ?

Everyone doesnt buy for 1 month.

Next month there is a influx of sales from people waitng.


Figures even out for the time.