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Nobody said Berzerkers were a bad choice...

As for Noise Marines, they'd be a good unit if they cost less or got sonic blasters as standard. Right now, you're paying 5pts for a fearless Chaos Marine with 1 extra point of initiative. 10 CSMs with the MoS gives you 10 marines with I5 for 30pts less than 10 Noise Marines, who then have to spend yet more points to buy unit specific weaponry.

Ol' Gav must've been trippin' when he wrote the CSM codex. Never before have I seen a recent codex (when it was released) that managed to have such a mix of good units and terrible units.

Crazed Dreadnoughts, crappy possessed and overcosted Noise Marines alongside Plague Marines, Obliterators and Berzerkers... It's utterly mind-boggling.

I really like striking scorpions and the incubi. I also like the background between karrandras and arhra. I just wish there was more of it.

Back with the old DE codex I had 2 dracons with tormentor and punisher, with a unit of incubi each while my troops were lead by syb (forgotten the name of the warrior leader :( ) with the same.

If Drazhar made incubi troops in the current codex I'd almost certainly do that.

I'm holding out hope for Karrandras making scorpions troops and I'll start Eldar back up. They're still in my 3rd edition box that hasn't been opened since I took the rulebook out and started my DE.

FITZZ wrote: Tankbustaz...most ork players I know avoid them, but I think they're a lot of fun to use.

I include them too.
Only becauase of the cool Nob. And the squigs

Ma55ter_fett wrote:I will never field a BT army without at least one of the big 20 man crusader squads.

That's why you take 2 or 3! No one will expect it. Black Tide!

Avatar 720 wrote:Nobody said Berzerkers were a bad choice...

As for Noise Marines, they'd be a good unit if they cost less or got sonic blasters as standard. Right now, you're paying 5pts for a fearless Chaos Marine with 1 extra point of initiative. 10 CSMs with the MoS gives you 10 marines with I5 for 30pts less than 10 Noise Marines, who then have to spend yet more points to buy unit specific weaponry.

Ol' Gav must've been trippin' when he wrote the CSM codex. Never before have I seen a recent codex (when it was released) that managed to have such a mix of good units and terrible units.

Crazed Dreadnoughts, crappy possessed and overcosted Noise Marines alongside Plague Marines, Obliterators and Berzerkers... It's utterly mind-boggling.

Read the whole thread. This is about running because it looks cool / you like it, not about functionality. Also NM are only good for their upgrades, which are a good pinning template weapon and a strong flamer with cheap slighty-better bolters.

I really don't want to de-rail the thread though. That would be just rude.

So to stay on topic: I also occasionally run a Nurgle Lord with Plaguebringer demon weapon. Not because he's any more useful than a prince (he's not) but because I custom made one that looks so cool (won't post it and flood the thread, you can just click on my gallery if you want.)

Rusted wrote:Defilers. I've been told so many times how much better I'd run with an oblit squad, but they look just so damn cool! Angry crab spider demon rush!

Defilers are the only reason I have ever considered playing Chaos. Still haven't started though...

Devastators. What can I say, I like my big guns.

Pretty much all of my armies are assembled from whatever I happen to feel like painting...

My two chaos land raiders. They usually dont do much, even if they allow the squads inside of them to get the charge. But I just love how their painted.
Also my white scars biker comand squad, 2 pwr fists, 2 pwr weps, apothicary, 2 combi meltas, and 4 storm shields. Its far too expensive but it's also far too much fun.

gaovinni wrote:

Rusted wrote:Defilers. I've been told so many times how much better I'd run with an oblit squad, but they look just so damn cool! Angry crab spider demon rush!

Defilers are the only reason I have ever considered playing Chaos. Still haven't started though...

Defilers are the reason I went with Chaos in the first place and I have never been dissapointed.

I use deep striking rippers, the tunnel swarm guys. I use a carnifex. I run two squads of guardian defenders. Because they *are* worth it.

When I get my space marine army assembled I will field LotD a couple times just because I love the models. LotD is actually what got me into 40k back 6-7 years ago.

Shining spears . . . I gave them so many chances, and they hurt me so many times. They have played their last under my command.

Scout snipers.

Lol.

Avatar 720 wrote:Ol' Gav must've been trippin' when he wrote the CSM codex. Crazed Dreadnoughts...

You know, they actually have their uses. I was in a tourney and had a squad of Veterans running to an uncontested objective. They hid behind an immobilized, weapon destroyed Rhino. The dread decided to Fire Frenzy and promptly blew up the rhino, killing one of my guys, causing me to fail the LD check, and have them run off the board (below half strength). Would've been a win for me.

Anyways, on topic, Stormtroopers because the Kasrkin models are ace, and hellhounds because....well, they're flame tanks! How can you say no?

My entire army.

IG 50 man blobs
LRBT w/ las and plasma
basilisk with heavy stubber(I modeled it so I want to be able to use it!)
armored sentinels with plasma
vostroyan command squad
HWT that fall apart(literally, I used a cheap glue)

The blobs are fun at a low point game like 1000 because nobody prepares for a 30 man blob with tank support at that level in my experience.

-cgmckenzie

Hmm I'd have to say chronos parasite engine, you never really see people field it, but its worked wonders for me considering it can give a total of 3 pain tokens a turn.
thunderfire cannons and carnifexes are fun to use too.

cgmckenzie wrote:HWT that fall apart(literally, I used a cheap glue)

I know the feeling! We call my Plague Marines, "Leprosy Marines" because they are metal and fall apart constantly.

I used to love to run a Slaaneshi Chaos Havoc squad with 4 flamers and a champ with combi-flamer and power weapon. That squad would devour hordes and even took out most of a seer council once. I had an alternate champ with powerfist and combi-melta to have an anti-tank option as well Good times.


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cgmckenzie wrote:
The blobs are fun at a low point game like 1000 because nobody prepares for a 30 man blob with tank support at that level in my experience.

-cgmckenzie

That's actually really cool. I found at 1000 it was best to max on one thing but you've managed to fit in opposite extremes that woudl be hard for many to counter. I used to love to run two 5 man CSM squads in rhinos (one champ), two DPs, a Greater Daemon and two have squads (one ML squad and one HB squad). It could cover everything and only lost a few times

A squad of the really old, guitar-toting noise marines with a homemade blastmaster. Sure, they're not worth the points they cost. Don't care, they're the entire reason I started Chaos in the first place.

Imperial Guard Armored Sentinels with Plasma Cannons.

Rusted wrote:

Avatar 720 wrote:Nobody said Berzerkers were a bad choice...

As for Noise Marines, they'd be a good unit if they cost less or got sonic blasters as standard. Right now, you're paying 5pts for a fearless Chaos Marine with 1 extra point of initiative. 10 CSMs with the MoS gives you 10 marines with I5 for 30pts less than 10 Noise Marines, who then have to spend yet more points to buy unit specific weaponry.

Ol' Gav must've been trippin' when he wrote the CSM codex. Never before have I seen a recent codex (when it was released) that managed to have such a mix of good units and terrible units.

Crazed Dreadnoughts, crappy possessed and overcosted Noise Marines alongside Plague Marines, Obliterators and Berzerkers... It's utterly mind-boggling.

Read the whole thread. This is about running because it looks cool / you like it, not about functionality. Also NM are only good for their upgrades, which are a good pinning template weapon and a strong flamer with cheap slighty-better bolters.

I really don't want to de-rail the thread though. That would be just rude.

So to stay on topic: I also occasionally run a Nurgle Lord with Plaguebringer demon weapon. Not because he's any more useful than a prince (he's not) but because I custom made one that looks so cool (won't post it and flood the thread, you can just click on my gallery if you want.)

I did read the whole thread? You were the one that stated people were saying Noise Marines were rubbish, I was simply explaining why that is. Please do not make me out to be the bad guy by ignoring the reasons for why I made my post.

gak yeah. I just build stuff 'cause I like it, let alone actually using them. I've got tons of crap no one would ever in their right mind put on the table - I don't care. I think it looks cool.

This guy, converted up to represent a Khorne Lord on Juggernaut. Deepstriking Trygons, beware!

As for Noise Marines, they'd be a good unit if they cost less or got sonic blasters as standard. Right now, you're paying 5pts for a fearless Chaos Marine with 1 extra point of initiative. 10 CSMs with the MoS gives you 10 marines with I5 for 30pts less than 10 Noise Marines, who then have to spend yet more points to buy unit specific weaponry.

But who cares? They rock... Literally.

Other units I use because I like them? Well, nearly my whole eldar army for starters... Scorpions, banshees, reapers, spears... Fire Prisms... (Yes, I know they aren't really seen as not competitive, but it frankly never does anything major for me. Yet, I like it so much.)

Hey LOTD are not all that bad, it's fun watching your opponents jaw drop when 2 Multi Meltas come off the deepstrike and pop a tank or 2 and not to mention a 3+ invulnerable save!

Ragnar Blackmane. All of my competitive play friends say he's a huge point sink, but I think he's worth every point. Occasionally he eats a power fist early in the game, but he can kill just about anything.

Deff dreads. They are only effective against tyranids, any other army will pop them waaay before they get into CC (Even if they are protected by a KFF)

But perhaps some of the coolest looking models in the GW catalogue, that's why I have 2 of them.

Storm troopers, the first IG models I owned and used in a game, they're crazy expensive but they're so much fun to use and look snazzy to boot.

The second army I started was demons simply because I wanted to paint all of the models.