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grak wrote:Still no finecast Necrons, more chance of an overhaul of sorts.

I'm not expecting any Necrons being done in FC until after the new models are released.

THEY NEED TO RESIN-IFY BROADSIDES!!!!!!!!!!

THEY ARE THE MOST INCREDIBLY ANNOYING MODELS IN THE WORLD!!!!

I'D HATE THEM IF THEY WEREN'T SO DAMN USEFUL!

CAPS=RAAAAAAAAAAAGE

Buy Forge World or wait for the next Codex release.

FW is stupidly expensive. Normally it makes sense because their models are soooooooo much better than GW, but all that's different here is the position of the guns for a much higher price.

I am stuck between a rock and a hard place-horrible quality or horrible price...

im2randomghgh wrote:FW is stupidly expensive. Normally it makes sense because their models are soooooooo much better than GW, but all that's different here is the position of the guns for a much higher price.

I am stuck between a rock and a hard place-horrible quality or horrible price...

FW are cheaper than GW now, buy buy buy

im2randomghgh wrote:FW is stupidly expensive. Normally it makes sense because their models are soooooooo much better than GW, but all that's different here is the position of the guns for a much higher price.

I am stuck between a rock and a hard place-horrible quality or horrible price...

I'd disagree with you on the 'all that's different is the position of the guns'. The FW Broadside has all the lines of the XV-89 suit, but with Broadside guns.

I do know that look doesn't appeal to everyone though. But if it were me--I'd be getting the XV-89s and Broadsides from FW anyways.

im2randomghgh wrote:FW is stupidly expensive. Normally it makes sense because their models are soooooooo much better than GW, but all that's different here is the position of the guns for a much higher price.

I can't follow you:

£ 18.50


£28.60


I think, it's worth the extra 10 £, esp. as the new model usually is more expensive.

They won't 'Finecost' the Broadsides because they are a hybrid kit, and GW is eliminating hybrid kits from the range. The next time Broadsides get a release will be when they go all plastic during the next Tau Codex release cycle.

im2randomghgh wrote:FW is stupidly expensive. Normally it makes sense because their models are soooooooo much better than GW, but all that's different here is the position of the guns for a much higher price.

You'll be paying even more (yes, for those pin-tastic models which already make you cry superglue) for Finecast Broadsides. A resin/plastic hybrid of that sort of scale is simply stupid, the feet would be resin, meaning it would constantly pop off the base if dropped/knocked unless you pinned them in which case: why did you buy finecast if you still have the pin the goddam thing?

That said, I do not believe there is a crime bad enough to warrant having to put together XV89 suits. I'll stick with my metal broadsides for now (and my metal Farsight - I think the WIP pictures for the 'new' Farsight look like crap).

I just... spent... a week.

A WEEK..

Slaving over this metal Bloodthirster.

RAAAGEEE!

I suppose I don't own a Lord of Change yet...

Khorne Lord on Jugger is a good model too.

Where's my Fiends of Slaanesh dag it!?

Ehsteve wrote: why did you buy finecast if you still have the pin the goddam thing?

More detail and much lighter so it won't break as easily?

Popping off bases isn't really a problem and a five minute pinjob isn't the end of the frigging world. I've been throwing around my assembled and unpinned Finecasts as a joke. The Terror of Arnor even - they just bounce.

I'm really pleased to hear that the Hydra could be in the next lot! Just recently I was discussing the possibilities for this model - the reposable heads are the most exciting prospect.

Nothing on the horizon for Imperial Guard?

Did I miss something, or is there no word on that at the moment?

Arctik_Firangi wrote:

Ehsteve wrote: why did you buy finecast if you still have the pin the goddam thing?

More detail and much lighter so it won't break as easily?

Okay here's the issue: The resin foot is attached to a minature ballsocket joint connected to the ankle of the leg which is roughly 3mm to 4mm thick near the joint.

You can try to superglue that joint, but you'll get the same issue as metal: broken ankle joints, models constantly popping off the base. There are some things Tau players go through that no other players should have to suffer.

You can try pinning the joint, that involves a pin 1mm in diameter throught a 3mm thick joint which has to continue to the knee joint in order to make a firm connection so the ankle doesn't snap (about 1" to the knee from the ankle). Resin might help, but the extra price is not worth the many, many issues that kit already has that even resin cannot solve. Do this for a squad of 3 broadsides and you will know all hope is lost.

I'm perfectly fine with complete resin kits in the finecast range (I've got a techmarine and servitor set I'm very content with), but it would be extra cost for minimal benefit in the case of the XV88 Broadside Battlesuit.

Kroothawk wrote:

im2randomghgh wrote:FW is stupidly expensive. Normally it makes sense because their models are soooooooo much better than GW, but all that's different here is the position of the guns for a much higher price.

I can't follow you:

£ 18.50


£28.60


I think, it's worth the extra 10 £, esp. as the new model usually is more expensive.

I think I'm in love.

I hadn't clicked the picture, so only saw the small thing and assumed it was pretty much the same.

WHERES MY ORK RESIN DAMMIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

KingCracker wrote:WHERES MY ORK RESIN DAMMIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

All my Tau got was resin ethereals and resin sniper teams. Great, two units that are rarely ever worth anything are slightly less awful from a non-rule standpoint. yay./sarcasm

Brother SRM wrote:Warp Spiders? Really? I find it funny that models old enough to vote are getting the Finecast treatment.

Bump. I'd really like to see those models replaced. Plastic kit maybe....yeah!

As far as the others, Master oT Ravenwing I wouldn't mind having in resin....so long as the quality issues I been hearing about are addressed. Cause right now he's one heavy metal, lighter resin may be a good thing.

Banshee's...meh, I'm on the fence. Nothing wrong with the metals and I've got a few anyways, but resin may be easier to clean up.

Does anyone else have a problem with the bottom halves of the quins....as in they really suck and are crappy attempts at portraying movement? I'd like to see a redux on them.

And the Venomthrope....I've got a couple of those in the works right now....they'd be good in resin, not falling over and busting a tenticle out of its socket.

It's too bad that FineCost isn't any sort of revamp, only a different material...it's like I kind of want to be excited, but no.

My 2c's -MightyG

My issue with Warp Spiders is it would be a great opportunity for new models, even if it was in Finecast instead of metal or plastic. Just surprises me that they're getting that treatment. Abbadon makes a bit more sense since he's a character and characters don't get resculpts all that often, so Finecasting his old goofy model makes more sense to me.

Good point. When's the last time a 40K character got a re-sculpt? Calgar?


And it's a damned shame GW finally decided to release Karazamov in a material I'd consider putting together. Pity I can't get it here for a reasonable un-inflated price... ah well.

I thought Lemartes was one of the most recent.

The slann mage priest would be fantastic in resin. Why? Because the model has to be suspended on a flying stand which was previously metal. Now I won't have to worry about double stands or redrilling in order to make sure it's supported correctly. That and no more heavy metal weighing down my case.

That and I really want to see that resin Juggernaut and that ravenwing jetbike, more convertable than ever before!

H.B.M.C. wrote:They won't 'Finecost' the Broadsides because they are a hybrid kit, and GW is eliminating hybrid kits from the range. The next time Broadsides get a release will be when they go all plastic during the next Tau Codex release cycle.

Hive Tyrant was in the first wave. It's a hybrid kit. There's even a shot of it in the new white dwarf with the plastic arms attached to the new resin model.

Was waiting for a Resin Hydra... =D

Still waiting for my Resin Malekith... and Cauldron... and... well... you get the point.

-Loki- wrote:

H.B.M.C. wrote:They won't 'Finecost' the Broadsides because they are a hybrid kit, and GW is eliminating hybrid kits from the range. The next time Broadsides get a release will be when they go all plastic during the next Tau Codex release cycle.

Hive Tyrant was in the first wave. It's a hybrid kit. There's even a shot of it in the new white dwarf with the plastic arms attached to the new resin model.

Epic hoof-in-mouth!

That Hive Tyrant was a good call by GW... that was an absolute nightmare assembly.

Turalon wrote:Nothing on the horizon for Imperial Guard?

Did I miss something, or is there no word on that at the moment?

Other than the Lord Commissar and Yarrick in the first wave, it doesn't look like it.

They might be gearing up for a big Imperial Guard rerelease, with finecast sets for the old metal ranges.

Maybe GW thinks that will stop all the calls for plastic Greatcoat/Winter/Desert guard.

-Loki- wrote:Hive Tyrant was in the first wave. It's a hybrid kit. There's even a shot of it in the new white dwarf with the plastic arms attached to the new resin model.

You've heard the phrase 'exception to the rule', yes? The Hive Tyrant is two pieces that are plastic and the plastic isn't required. The Broadside cannot function as a non-hybrid kit because it's mostly plastic. It'll be back, but like the Heavy Destroyer, it'll be a full plastic kit, not a re-done hybrid.

As for battle suits I'm waiting to see if battle suits go down to $45 for 3 or remain at a ludicrous $25 for 1. If they don't I really don't see many people starting Tau.

H.B.M.C. wrote:

-Loki- wrote:Hive Tyrant was in the first wave. It's a hybrid kit. There's even a shot of it in the new white dwarf with the plastic arms attached to the new resin model.

You've heard the phrase 'exception to the rule', yes? The Hive Tyrant is two pieces that are plastic and the plastic isn't required. The Broadside cannot function as a non-hybrid kit because it's mostly plastic. It'll be back, but like the Heavy Destroyer, it'll be a full plastic kit, not a re-done hybrid.

So arms aren't required for a legal model?

The plastic most definitely is required - a set of plastic arms has to be used. Only the bonesword/lashwhip arms were metal. It cannot function as a Hive Tyrant without the plastic parts.

While I agree it's an exception and most of the model is metal, it also means ruling out any hybrid kits is a bit stupid. If GW see the demand, they'll release it because it'll sell before they announce a month later the actual plastic.

Actually, i'd say that's why the 7 day limit on new release news was implemented. They can release old Finecast models, have the unknowing snap them up since they son't want those in metal, then quickly release the new all plastic version that is better, and people will probably grab the new plastic as well.

-Loki- wrote:So arms aren't required for a legal model?

Yep. They're not required at all. Neither are the legs. Nor the head. The tail though, you need that. Totally illegal without the tail.

The hive tyrant seems like more of an exception because it uses generic tyrannic MC sprues. I could see hybrid kits happening for CSM if all of the cult marine boxes geat recut and fine cast, with a chaos arm sprue being common across plague marines, thousand sons, and chaos space marine boxes.