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Quick update:

Hair and various details. Hopefully I can finish this guy tonight and make a frame for the next guy. I need to escape work though first!

DANG-DINGELY-DANG!!!!!

Fantastic!

Reminds me of one of the members of Mastodon...

Subbed.

These look ace! Most intimitating models i've seen for a long while, well done

Incredible!

I especialy like the beard, it's a really nice touch. The hands could use some more work though. It probably won't be easy, but I know you can do it, Pete.

I know you wanted to go bare handed with this one. with a sword strapped to his back. However the pose to me suggests that he would look better with
A). An axe in each hand or something, and bellowing his victory cry over the corpse of a dead adversary, or
B) sword impaled into the ground with dead opponent or just in the ground and bellowing like he is screaming out a primal prayer to his weapon in advance of the impending battle.

However, I think your idea is brilliant and maybe an open hand rather than a clenched fist would go better (the balled hands just make me feel he should be holding something), I am aware that they may not do these hands for ogres, but I am sure you have the GS-fu to do it.

I would so love to have these models for myself, especially the first one, it is so lifelike and the aggressive posing is amazing.

Just to start off thank you guys so much for the feedback! When I initially said in my first post that you guys keep me honest this is exactly what i meant. So the hands thing i did just to see how it looked if i wanted to be lazy, and it didn't look as awkward as i had pictured so in truthfulness I fully intended to laze out and keep it that way. There's also a nasty gap in his head/neck (pic 2/3) that i somehow magically missed.

Not now! Today I'll attempt to make hands for him. Here's some pictures of what were the final shots:









Dantay_xv: With the shield, axe and some imagination on the hands do you still feel the same way with the equipment? I'm loving how the attempt at a Norse shield turned out and i like the axe but i also dug your ideas.

Rama: Thanks for the vote of confidence haha!

After the hands experiment comes the Bannerman stay tuned and again thank you guys so much for the ideas and encouragement!

The axe and shield look cool, I especially like the shield, did you make it yourself or go with the beastman shield in the end?

The pose almost reminds me of Garagim Ironfist (dwarf slayer king's son) who has 2 axe heads on chains 1 wrapped around each hand/forearm. (was trying to remember the pose this morning).
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I like what you have done with him, maybe a dead body or horse or something under his foot, as if he is daring all-comers to get him or claim what he is stepping on. Or put a trinket/head something in 1 of the hands so he has something to be bellowing about.

As for your first model, he is definitely for the front rank, that dynamic and aggressive pose would be wasted in the second rank. It is truly beautiful

The shield was the larger beastman shield but with the gubbins scraped off and wood grain carved in where it was (a giant pain). For the middle that i don't know the technical name for it is just pressed a sphere of GS into it, let it cure then added the cone and rivets.

He does have a resemblance to Ironfist, I'm glad i didn't go with the mohawk or i may have gotten a C&D letter from GW the way things are going haha. For the basing, both models just have a teeny dab of glue on the base to keep them from falling but i plan to remove them to go all out with the basing.

I haven't had good luck with basing bodies on my minis though, it always bugs me. I did that with a CSM army i had back in the day where I gave my friends a model to paint in the scheme of their armies and i corpse-a-fied it for some of my centerpiece models. It nagged at me though when my opponents didn't match. I'm weird though.

I do like the trinket idea though, if the hand thing ends up just sucking my soul away, it may be something for a hand to grab.

Lol, I find corpses hard to do too, damned space marine backpacks make the bodies look like they are levitating and the legs look un-natural.

I generally just put bits of armour or banner tops to make life easier. Unless I give an opponent a good going-over, then I add a bit of their models colours to the base to tease them.

The shield does look nice, even though it was a pain to work on, will you be using them throughout your army?

Don't forget to fur-line the boots

I likely wont make another shield until the book comes out just because i don't have all the facts about Ironfists. I want to tread that fine line of WYSIWYG and not having them look like a rank and file army with standard equipment. The shield for the bellower is replacing the parrying dagger for the first guy really with the defense and offense capabilities. After all, on Deadliest warrior that viking shield of a similar style was great defense and output some crazy PSI when bashing people. Until i know if the ironfists are changes I'd rather keep my bases covered (another reason SB is next).

And yea he'll get fuzzy boots.

The shield and axe look pretty cool.

And I would like to add that corpses on bases rarely look good. Most of times, they look pretty ridicoulus imo

Rumor has it, there will be some sort of fire breathing wizard in the new book. Got any ideas for that one?

Anung Un Rama wrote:The shield and axe look pretty cool.

And I would like to add that corpses on bases rarely look good. Most of times, they look pretty ridicoulus imo

Rumor has it, there will be some sort of fire breathing wizard in the new book. Got any ideas for that one?

I was thinking about it last night actually and i'll have to see how it fits into the list. Fire obviously would make exactly zero sense in this army and im not sure how cool a frost wizard would look in this army, there's going to be enough blue and white so it's not like he'd be a standout model. I'm more excited to model runecasting shaman butchers.

Dantay: Fur boots done.

Wow, great work! Can't wait to see more.

Cool, the more Ugg boots the better

Have to say I'd rather see proper Celtic horns than Bellowers. I've always found the idea rather silly and feel you could definitely sculpt the greatt horns well enough to give this army a real feel to it!

dantay_xv wrote:Cool, the more Ugg boots the better

Yes, and my next model will be given apple-bottom jeans...

Llamahead wrote:Have to say I'd rather see proper Celtic horns than Bellowers. I've always found the idea rather silly and feel you could definitely sculpt the greatt horns well enough to give this army a real feel to it!

Patience! These are poor Frost Giant commoners, I have to save something for the full on armored up upper crust!

Oohh definitely soething to look forward to.....

He's certainly full of character, love it.
Seconding the idea of a corpse under his boot

Also an idea for the 'fire mage' they might be getting, you could always GS an ogre blowing a torrent of snow out of his mouth, the idea being it's so cold that it burns, just an idea and i'm sure your GS skills can pull it off magnificently

Wow i really like this i might try something like this but for ogryns i'd just have to do some practice necks

Here's what i have so far:



I just put two hand size blobs on the wire, and let it cure. Then added the fingers, the fingers from the back and the thumbs from the front so it adds that meat to the palm. That cured and i trimmed down the excess so the next step is to build out the details again. I intent to add more curl to the fingers which will make them less frail looking.

I dunno, first try at hands and i think it will end up looking good.

Nice work hands are hard enough to draw let alone sculpt

They look nuts, really good job on them, quite life-like

I could never sculpt like that.

Soooo all the fingers broke off when i tried to add more detail.

Trying a new approach and so far it looks better and sturdier, hopefully I'll have something done today.

Sorry for the struggles, but I'm sure he'll turn out just as awesome as ever. Keep on, keepin' on.

The new look:





A bit meatier looking on the one in focus. The plan earlier was to fill out the frame from the earlier pics but the fingers as i said were just too frail. The solution i used was to just model a finger at a time to the right size the first time. Seems ok but i didn't bring the model itself to check the look. I'm going to hold off on the second hand until tonight when i get home. I may do a 50/50 compromise where i may model something in his closed hand like Dantay suggested and pop on the new open hand in the other. We'll see.

I already am behind on my August vow and am going to have to get crackin on the other Ogres. The SB is all cut apart and ready to get framed up so hopefully i can wrap up this hand nonsense soon.

I was going to ask if you were using a wire frame to make the hand outline, or if it was pure GS?

The wire, certainly for the fingers would give you something to work from and also make the hand stronger.

Finally satisifed with this guy:





First hand i made (his right) turned out kinda meh but the second one (left) ended up a lot better. So i should be in good shape should i feel the need to do another set for a Character or something that will need to hold up to more scrutiny.

I didn't end up using wire for the digits because i have problems with the GS getting poked through the thin wire needed for this kinda thing.

Now i have all the pieces cut apart for the Standard Bearer. For him i'll be trying a more relaxed pose but would like to give him a pretty imposing look, like he's eying the enemy down and ready to charge at an instant. Hopefully I'll get the frame done today and maybe filled in, i would really like to hit the ground running on this guy and bang it out. After he's done i'll technically have my first unit!

Here's the banner style I'm going to use too:



I won't be using the raven most likely but i think that flag is pretty awesome and will look really dynamic and fitting for the theme.

Thanks for sticking with me!