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4oursword wrote:Yeah, sorry about that. I just thought that the name Conversionists was a little more unique. They could be a different unit perhaps, maybe renamed Converter's Pride and only taken if a Converter Unit is taken in the army?

Retinue / command squad of a HQ maybe?

What about ripoffs?

Maybe they are able to copy the enemy unit's stats and wargear, but not special rules... or something like that

Maybe they could a unit upgrade, like a sergeant? Basically the same guy but with +1 Ld and +1 attack, with additional options?


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Ok here we go. Sorry if this seems OP.

CthuluIsSpy - 275pts

Takes an Elite Slot

Type: Monstrous Creature (Unique)

WS3 BS4 S6 T6 W4 A4 Ld10 3+/5++

Wargear : Armor of Mind ery, Claw of Cthulu,Wings

Armor of the ery : Grants a 3+/5++ save. Counts as having defensive grenades and offensive grenades, and in addition any enemy units must reroll all successful hits in both CC and Shooting; they are too perplexed to concentrate on fighting and aiming!

Claw of Cthulu : Force Weapon that has the following ranged attack :
Epeleptic Breeze : Range: 12" S: D6 Ap: D6 Assault D3, pinning

Special Rules : Infiltrate, Fearless, "That Monster's a Spy!", Vulgar Tirade, Pfft Demons....

"That Monster's a Spy!" : Place CthuluIsSpy in reserve as normal. However, when he arrives he replaces a monstrous creature of the controlling player's choice. The monster he replaces is placed in reserve (I'm not that cheesy)
CthuluIsSpy may charge, move and shoot as normal.

Vulgar Tirade : Once per game, CthuluIsSpy may burst into a cacophony of curse words, obscure references and lewd remarks, that breaks the insanity of all who is near.

Range: Flamer S10* AP1,
*Resolved against target's leader value. If failed, remove the model from play.

This ability has no effect against Space Wolves (they've heard worse), and things Slaaneshi (don't ask)

Pfft Demons....: Immune to perils of the Warp (Demons won't go near him...)

Kroothawk 180pts
WS BS S T W I A LD SV
5 5 6 4 5 7 5 10 4+
KrootHawk Rides a greater Knarloc. The boosts to his profile are already included.
Weapons and Armour: Kroot Rifle, Hammer Of Brutally Crushed Rumours.
Special Rules: You'll Get This... And This... Any model from Codex: Dakkadakka within 12" of Kroothawk is fearless.
The Hammer Of Brutally Crushed Rumours is a thunder hammer which bestows the following shooting attack:
Range: Strength: AP: Other:
Template 10 1 Roll to wound against LD, Assault 1

A few ideas for new special rules:
Dedicated Transport: Band Wagon.
Any unit with special ability Band Wagon can take dedicated transport from the latest released codex as their dedicated transport.

They have it, why shouldn't Dakka have it? (Sometimes known as That gak is so OP in other codex, in mine it will be perfectly balanced)
Any Dakka model with this ability can take a single wargear or skill from any other entry from any codex (even from previous editions)

1hadhq wrote:Fast Assault:

Die hard sisters fans.

DHSF are the rapid assault force of dakka.

Die Hard Sisters Fan
unit type: infantry.
WS 4 BS 3 S 3 T 4 W 1 I 4 A 2 LD 10 5+
Unit size: 5-20
Cost: basic 5 for 80 pts, may add up to 15 for 15 pts each.
basic gear: CCW / pistol , krak and frag granades.
Special rulez: the righteous, out of nowhere, implacable faith. extreme infighting.
May upgrade 1 DHSF to veteran ( WS 5 BS 3 S 3 T 4 W 2 I 5 A 3 LD 10 5+ )
- any DHSF may improve the 5+ save to 4+ at +5 pts per model
- up to 2 DHSF per 5 models may swap their pistol: a) hand flamer at +10 pts or b) heavy flamer at +20 pts
- veteran may swap CCw and pistol for eviscerator
- veteran may swap pistol for plasma pistol at +20 / inferno pistol at +15 pts
- veteran and/or DHSF may take meltabombs at +5 each
- the righteous: nobody doubts the DHSF and their right to have their own dex and lives. Unit has stubborn USR.
- out of nowhere: DHSF may deepstrike once per game whenever they feel like it. No thread is safe and thus DHSF reroll any mishap.
- implacable faith: DHSF endured when others gave up on the hobby and became immune to psi powers as the scheming of the warp has no hold on them. A unit of DHSF may disbelieve any psi power in 12" that may aim at them or tresspass their radiant sphere of anti-WD-dex hate automatically.
- transport: may ride on the backs of heretics into battle and count as cavalry then. Has to be wysiwig but at a discount of just +5 pts per model. Heretic: ws - bs - S 3 t 3 W 1 I 2 A - Ld 5 6+ unarmed and there to die. Can't deepstrike if using a ride.

extreme infighting: this is a specific trait of the DHSF as they will not easily fall to infighting but if they do it is worse. DHSF only succumb to this on a roll of 1. Roll a d6:
1-2: Exemple of unneccessary Violence: the unit takes D3 strength 4 hits. Once this has been resolved, place 1 small template per 5 models in the DHSF unit on top of the unit and scatter them 12" in a random direction. Any unit, friendly or enemy, that the template touches takes D6 strength 3 hits. Place the unit under the final position of one of these templates, but still 1" away from any opposing Model. The unit may not move, shoot, run or assault this time.
3-5: Let's get 'em!- The unit has the Rage and Fleet USR for the turn. In the assault phase, they must assault if able. If shooting their weapons would leave them unable to assault, they may not shoot.
6: 'Ow dare you?- The unit suffers D6 strength 5 hits. The unit may function as normal this turn.

They really need a book of Saint Lucius upgrade, instead of "The Righteous"

How about Fatties?

Slow and purposeful, take up two transport slots, Initiative 1 but with furious assault (to represent forward inertia/momentum).

Lord Magnus wrote:

They really need a book of Saint Lucius upgrade, instead of "The Righteous"

So you want them to replace a USR providing unmodified tests for themselves with something to grant unmodified tests to units in close range ? Why should they raise the morale of nearby dakka units? They already protect dakka units against psi powers a bit...

How about we don't call it "book of st lucius" but "book of st release date"?
The "book of st release date" grants its reader and all who listen insight in the joyous fact of new codices in the making. Every model in the readers unit and all models in a friendly unit within 6" may use the unmodified LD stat of the model carrying the book for all tests on said stat.
Book of st release date: wargear , DHSF veteran may take 1 for 5 pts.



Shouldn't someone gather the ideas?



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Vampirate of Sartosa wrote:
HQ
A few characters- Staff members, and some DCMs (Kroothawk, anyone?)
Not sure about generics.
TROOPS
Gamers (generic Dakkanaut troops- possibly some kind of "favour of the dice gods" rule?)
Painters (not sure. Ranged troops?)
Fluffists (role unsure)
ELITES
Veteran Gamers/Veteran painters (pretty obvious)
Haters (generic troops are "Wardhaters", can be upgraded to "Finecasthaters", etc. Also has a HQ choice in the form of a "Kirbyhater".)
Dakka-nought (It's like a Dreadnought BUT WITH MORE GUNS)
Rulecrafters (???)
HEAVY SUPPORT
Obviously, LOTS OF TANKS
Converters (big guns!)
FAST ATTACK
???

suggestions made so far:

HQ

- legoburner 180 pts
- Kirbyhater - 200 pts
- Gwar! Supreme Grand Master of FAQs and Eratas
- King of Predators 300 points
- Custom Mary-Sue Squad 600 pts
- The accursed one Mat Ward himself: 150 pts
- DOOMTHUMBS - 600 pts
- Kroothawk 180 pts

Elite

- Veteran Gamers 18 pts > upgrade: Kanluwen 95 pts
- Haters 17 pts ( finecasthater? )
- Dakkanought: 120 points
- Annoying Forum Troller 10 pts
- CthuluIsSpy - 275pts

Fast Assault

- Die hard sisters fans. 15 pts

Troops

- Gamer -10pts
- Wardhater: 12 pts
- Crazy Noob: 4 pts
- Fluff Nazi, 15 pts

Heavy support

- Immaculate Golden Demon Winner. 120 pts
- Converters 20pts
- Server outlet- 200 pts

dedicated transport

- CRASSUS ARMORED ASSAULT TRANSPORT
- Dedicated Transport: Band Wagon.

unsure

- Conversionists:
- Egocentric forumite

outside FOC

- Rule Crafters - 50pts each

army wide special rulez
- Infighting:
- They have it, why shouldn't Dakka have it?

Dakkapred!

The Master Of All Gamers (HQ, Troop, Fast Attack, Heavy Support, Elites)
WS:10
BS:10
S: 10
T: 10
W: 5
I: 6
A: 5
LD: 11
SV: 2+ (with a re roll of 2+)/2++ (with a re roll of 2++)

Unit Composition:
1 Master Of All Gamers

Cost:
1000 points

Wargear:
TL Lascannon
TL Lascannon
TL Lascannon
TL Lascannon

May Swap any TL Lascannon for:
TL Assault Cannon free
TL Thunderfire Cannon free
TL Whirlwind Multiple Missile Launcher free

Special Rules
Relentless
Fearless
Feel No pain
Greater Favour of the Dice Gods
Choice of 5 Special Rules from Codex: DakkaDakka
Choice of 5 Special Rules from the Rulebook
Choice of 1 Invented rule thats not overly cheesy.

I know that's hard to say after I posted this, but look at the price.

DakkaNerd (y'know, the people who just spend all their time browsing the forums and rarely posting... ugh, sounds like me)

WS4 BS4 S3 T3 W2 I3 A2 Ld9 Sv3+ Points: 130

Wargear - Plot armour (3+, 5++), Staff of OtherForumHate, Bolt pistol

Staff of OtherForumHate: DakkaNerds wield a staff signifying their loyalty to DakkaDakka only. This is a power weapon that has rerolls to hit and wound against anyone who browses the other forums.

Special Rules - Learn from Games, Get the Other Forums!, Get 'em, Boyz!, Independant Character, Greater Blessing of the Dice Gods

Learn from Games: DakkaNerds play so much 40k they have learnt combat tactics from it. At the start of the game, choose an Aspect of 40k to learn from and apply the following bonuses.

Tau: Strength of guns increased by 1, BS reduced by 1. Range of guns increased by 6".

Guard: Gains the Summary Execution special rule.

Eldar: Gains +1 Initiative and Leadership.

Dark Eldar: Armour save reduced by 1 but Staff of OtherForumHate also becomes Poisoned (3+). Also gains +1 Initiative.

Orks: Gains +1 Attacks and Weapon skill.

Tyranids: Gains the ability to spawn Big Bugz. Big Bugz have WS2 BS2 S2 T2 W1 I3 A2 Ld5 Sv6+. Can summon D3 Bugz per turn.

Space Marines: Gains +1 Leadership and the And They Shall Know No Fear special rule.

Necrons: Gains the We'll Be Back! special rule.

Grey Knights: Gains Preferred Enemy (Daemons) and becomes a Mary Sue.

Sisters of Battle: Blesses the bolt pistol, making it AP4.

Adeptus Mechanicus: Gains Imaginary Bionics, granting +1 Toughness.

Get the other Forums!: DakkaNerds have Preferred Enemy: Other Forums.

Get 'em, Boyz!: DakkaNerds lead their less nerdy brethren to great feats. The unit they are with adopts their gamer Aspect.

1-3 DakkaNerds can be taken per Elites choice and are permanently attached to a single unit. They can leave that unit but cannot join any other unit, unless their assigned unit has been killed.

Painbiro wrote:DakkaNerd (y'know, the people who just spend all their time browsing the forums and rarely posting... ugh, sounds like me)

I think that "Lurkers" is the droids you're looking for.

Vampirate of Sartosa wrote:

Painbiro wrote:DakkaNerd (y'know, the people who just spend all their time browsing the forums and rarely posting... ugh, sounds like me)

I think that "Lurkers" is the droids you're looking for.

Lurkers


Lurker ( unique unit of dakka )

The awesomeness of dakka gnererates Lurkers wherever the mighty force of dakka shows up.

Any unit of veterans may create unwilingly Lurkers whilst using their Dakka-powers.

One of the following units:
- veteran gamers
- veteran painters
- veteran haterz
- veteran ruleslaywers
- veteran converters
- and/or the dakka special rule infighting kicking in,

generates 1 Independent Lurker ( IL ) for each unsaved wound on the "enemy" either in the shooting or assault phase.
Place a marker for a independent lurker somewhere closer than 12" but still not in formation ( further than 2" ) with the unit which generated the IL. As "enemy" counts any unit/model attacked in the shooting/assault phase, thus infighting between dakkanauts generates IL , too.
Newly created Lurkers are IC and will form a unit of their own if more than one is created.

In their true form of Independent lurker they have the following statline:
WS 1 BS 1 S 1 T 1 W 1 I 1 A - 6+ unit type immobile. Counts as difficult terrain.

The independent lurker cannot be aimed at in any way and counts as difficult terrain. It never blocks line of sight.
However the independent lurker is not controlled by the players until a successful attempt to impress them is made and the IL is no longer independent. Thus it may not move on its own.

The controlling player of a veteran dakka unit may attempt to impress them to join. On a roll of 4+ the independent lurker will join the army of Dakka as a Lurker. The Lurker as IC / unit type infantry is free to join units of Dakka.

Lurkers statline is that of a new member of the discipline that impressed them to join:
- gamers
- painters
- haterz
- ruleslaywers
- converters
- in case of infighting the controlling player has the choice to elevate the Lurker to an active member of the infighting unit at the cost of a BASIC member of said unit.

How about this?
Lurkers as strain on the space available on the field of battle but possible new members too.

New Unit:

---OT forum posters---
Deep in the darkest pits of Dakka lurks the OT forum, described by some as the illegitimate child of a DE Haemonculus' flesh-lab and Tzeentch's impossible crystal labyrinth, this den of obscurity and depraved rambling is bizarre enough to drive those who look upon it to madness. Those that post there are no better off...

Size: 5-10
Type: Infantry

Stats:
As IG guardsman

Weapons/Equipment: Laspistol & CCW

(does someone want to figure out some upgrades for this unit? (go with a CC-oriented)

Special Rules:
Lolwut?
Aura of absurdity

Lolwut? - Sometimes an OT thread is posted that is so profoundly absurd that it stuns those who gaze upon it. Once per shooting phase the unit may use Lolwut? on an enemy unit within 18". The affected unit must make a leadership test, if they pass they may continue as normal, if they fail they will become pinned for the remainder of the turn as they try to understand what the hell the thread is on about.

Aura of absurdity - The wackiness that eminates from the OT forums penetrates deep into the very fabric of it's posters, as such, an aura of craziness exudes from them, confusing and disorienting would-be attackers. any unit in close combat with OT forum posters strikes at initiative 1

Ok this is just too funny...I love it!

What about nos? Can't leave out everyone's favorite rules master!

suggestions made so far / V II :

HQ

- legoburner 180 pts
- Kirbyhater - 200 pts
- Gwar! Supreme Grand Master of FAQs and Eratas
- King of Predators 300 points
- Custom Mary-Sue Squad 600 pts
- The accursed one Mat Ward himself: 150 pts
- DOOMTHUMBS - 600 pts
- Kroothawk 180 pts

Elite

- Veteran Gamers 18 pts . available upgrade: Kanluwen 95 pts
- Haters 17 pts ( finecasthater? )
- Dakkanought: 120 points
- Annoying Forum Troller 10 pts
- CthuluIsSpy - 275pts
- Dakka nerd 130 pts

Fast Assault

- Die hard sisters fans. 15 pts

Troops

- Gamer -10pts
- Wardhater: 12 pts
- Crazy Noob: 4 pts
- Fluff Nazi, 15 pts

Heavy support

- Immaculate Golden Demon Winner. 120 pts
- Converters 20pts
- Server outlet- 200 pts

dedicated transport

- CRASSUS ARMORED ASSAULT TRANSPORT
- Dedicated Transport: Band Wagon.

unsure

- Conversionists:
- Egocentric forumite
- OT forum poster ( suggestions where to place them in the FOC ? )

outside FOC

- Rule Crafters - 50pts each
- Lurkers - pts=special

army wide special rulez

- Infighting:
- They have it, why shouldn't Dakka have it?

"Sergeants" of Painters and Gamers should be Modellers and Tacticians, respectively.
Master Tacticians and Expert Modellers should be HQ choices.

Also, some kind of selection process similar to the old SM traits.

Where are we putting the upgraded dakkanought with "Da works"? I think It should be either a HQ choice or not take up a slot.

The dakkanought could either move to heavy support and/or function as an upgrade to a generic HQ.

Sounds good in either of those slots actually.

Just a quick bit of input:
Gwar has been banned from Dakka and so may not be the best choice, or should have a rule that prevents him from being included in an army...

Hellwolf wrote:Crazy Noob:
20-50 models.
4 points each

WS 2
BS 2
S 3
T 3
W 1
LD -
SV 5+

Wargear:
Bolt Pistol
Grot Blasta (gretchin weapon)
Shoulder Mounted Power Fist

May swap Grot Blasta and Bolt Pistol for
2 boltguns free
2 heavy flamers 20 points
1 boltgun 1 heavy flamer 10 points

May swap out Shoulder mounted PF for
Missile Launcher 20 points

Special Rules:
Moar Dakka (once per game) Any ranged weapons carried by the unit add one to the amount of shots fire (eg Assault 2 becomes Assault 3).
Bulletstorm (must be used same turn as Moar Dakka) Every weapon fired counts as TL. A TL weapon gets a third re roll. Rapid Fire weapons count as assault 3 and Heavy Weapons count as assault x. x=however many shots they would normally have.
Fearless
FNP
Hold The Pain
Slow and purposeful
Rage (the one where if you see an enemy you have to kill it, an ork HQ has it)

Slow and Purposeful, more like Fleet and Beasts

Old Fart (elites)

M WS BS S T W I A Ld Int Cl Wp
4 3 3 3 4 1 2 1 7 7 9 9

You may take 1-3 Old Farts per elites choice. They are not deployed together and act as individuals during a game.

Wargear - Worn rule book. Vortex grenade. Graviton gun.

Mutants - Lifelong exposure to superglue has warped the old fart in many strange ways. Roll d8 times on the Mutation Table (Rogue Trader p52)

Fearless - Keeper of Secrets? I remember when you used to be three inches smaller and were still fighting Zoats. And noise marines were always better with proper guitars.

Flexidisk - Upon hearing the sounds of Bolt Thrower from an antique flexidisk player, all enemy models within 6" take a -1 penalty to their SANITY.

Herohammer - All HQ choices in the army get 50pts extra to their wargear allowance. Of course, if you're playing with current edition rules, this has no effect. But what idiot would do that?

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C.S. GOTO (Elites)

WS BS S T W I A Ld
3 3 3 3 3 3 1 10

Wargear - MULTILASER. Master Crafted MULTILASER. Combi-MULTILASER.

Transport - C.S Goto may take a Land Raider as a dedicated transport. If he does this, he rides on top of it like a space cowboy. The vehicle counts as open topped. The Land Raider must replace all it's weapons with MULTILASERS.

Fearless - After molesting all those Eldar for entire 200 page novels, there's little that phases Goto nowadays.

Justified hatred - Any friendly model within 6" of Goto at the start of the turn must test against Ld or be compelled to attack him for crimes against backstory. The unit is subject to Rage for the rest of the turn, which must be directed at Goto.

Gorechild-340


WS BS S T W I A Ld
8 6 8 9 5 6 10D6 10

Does not take up a FOC slot.

Special Rules:
Furious Charge
Relentless
FNP
Favour of Kharn-An extra 2 Gorechilds

Equipment:
Dual Weilded Gorechilds.
Twin-Linked Lascannon


May take a Land Raider or Crassus Armoured Assault Transport. He may only go by himself in the Transports and may not be accompanied.

OP


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maybe make it a little more expensive than 340 points

Yep. Hell, he's have the price of DOOMTHUMBS and his stats as good.

Just Dave wrote:Just a quick bit of input:
Gwar has been banned from Dakka and so may not be the best choice, or should have a rule that prevents him from being included in an army...

How... when... this may be off topic, but how and when did this happen?

liquidjoshi wrote:

Just Dave wrote:Just a quick bit of input:
Gwar has been banned from Dakka and so may not be the best choice, or should have a rule that prevents him from being included in an army...

How... when... this may be off topic, but how and when did this happen?

Looooong time ago! I can't really say anymore though as it's against Dakka rules to speak of such matters, but you could probably find his profile & then the date of his last post...

Not meaning to troll, but see below for a reason why I said that.

I approve