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**Maelstrom808**

whigwam wrote:
Maelstrom808 wrote:
Anpu-adom wrote:
ofstatic wrote:It's too bad there was no ruling for if a catacomb command barge goes flat out and suffers an immobilized results can the embarked lord spend a wound to ignore it, or of it is upgraded to a wreck....

I think the codex is fairly clear on that one... the Overlord can take the wound.

Yeah, you'd think so, but some people still insist that he can't.
Flat-out skimmers "immediately" upgrade an immobilized result to a wreck, so I think it is an open question. I personally think the immobilized result can immediately be negated via Symbiotic Repair (and thus never upgraded to wreck), but I think there is room for reasonable people to disagree. Exactly why it needed a FAQ unfortunately.

At least we don't need to hear another word about conga-line Scarabs...

Oh I know the argument against it, I just think it's a silly one.

...and +1 to the Scarabs comment.

**ShumaGorath**

Q: Is Lash of Submission a Psychic Shooting Attack and
must it roll To Hit? (p88)
A: Yes to both questions. Note that if it misses, it will
have no effect

Well that's years too late to prevent cheese and idiocy.

**Vaktathi**

Maelstrom808 wrote:
Oh I know the argument against it, I just think it's a silly one.

Not that silly, it's a question of priority. It's certainly less silly than many other major rules issues that pop up in this game. I'd be inclined to agree that the Overlord can spend the wound to avoid it, but it's something that most likely would be one of those "dice it off" things at most events.

**ceorron**

For the Necron codex I was after them answering just one question.

If an Ark takes a glancing hit from the repair barge special rule does it loose it's quantum shielding?

Maybe I should e-mail them.

**whigwam**

ceorron wrote:For the Necron codex I was after them answering just one question.

If an Ark takes a glancing hit from the repair barge special rule does it loose it's quantum shielding?

Maybe I should e-mail them.

You only lose Q-Shielding on a penetrating hit, so that's a big no.

**Etharin**

One thing about the IG platoons... I'm assuming the dedicated transports are counted as part of the platoon and so covered under 1 unit choice?

**Vaktathi**

Etharin wrote:One thing about the IG platoons... I'm assuming the dedicated transports are counted as part of the platoon and so covered under 1 unit choice?

Yup. That's potentially 12 tanks and 260+ infantry deployed in Dawn of War

**ceorron**

whigwam wrote:
ceorron wrote:For the Necron codex I was after them answering just one question.

If an Ark takes a glancing hit from the repair barge special rule does it loose it's quantum shielding?

Maybe I should e-mail them.
You only lose Q-Shielding on a penetrating hit, so that's a big no.

Ah that makes it much better than I thought, don't know why I got that mixed up, thanks whigwam.

**Kirasu**

Which is a bit absurd considering the DOW rules themselves say different. Annoying since I just took a huge foot IG list to a tournament the other month!

**ofstatic**

This may be a silly question, but what gets affected by the BRB FAQ that models embarked in a vehicle can't use fire points for LoS for special rules and wargear? Nothing really comes to mind when I thought about what this affected.

**puma713**

Necron FAQ wrote:Q: If a model with whip coils is in base contact with a
model with an Initiative-boosting rule/piece of wargear
(e.g. Furious Charge, an Eldar Banshee Mask etc.), which
order are the Initiatives modified? (p44)

A: The Whip Coils will reduce an enemy model’s
Initiative to 1 before any other modifiers are applied.
So, a model with Furious Charge that assaults a
Canoptek Wraith with Whip Coils will strike at Initiative
2, a Grey Knight with a Nemesis force halberd will strike
at Initiative 3 and an Eldar with a Banshee Mask will
strike at Initiative 10 in the first round of assault.

My banshees are safe!

**G. Whitenbeard**

" Q: If a Death Ray passes over 3 models out of 10 in a unit, how many hits does that unit take?
A: 3"

Thank God.

I was getting pretty close to kicking people in the nut sack for arguing that the Death Ray hit entire units.

**puma713**

Mannfred wrote:

Q: Do models from a Royal Court that are attached to a
Deathmark Squad benefit from the Hunters from
Hyperspace special rule? (p90)
A: Yes.
woohoo^^

Yeah, but. . .

Necron FAQ wrote:Q: Can a unit of Deathmarks with an attached model
from a Royal Court Deep Strike? (p90)
A: No. Every model in a unit must have the Deep Strike
special rule for it to do so.

**Samus_aran115**

Kirasu wrote:Chaos space marines continue their long slow death march to oblivion it would seem with this FAQ

Yeah, really.

New blog is ugly too. Why do websites think it's cool to have all these gakky "LIKE THIS ON FACEBOOK/ TWEET THIS" nonsense? Just makes clutter. Anyone who's actually reading what's new today has the ability to press CTRL+C and CTRL+V in whatever they need to do.

bah

**ShumaGorath**

G. Whitenbeard wrote:" Q: If a Death Ray passes over 3 models out of 10 in a unit, how many hits does that unit take?
A: 3"

Thank God.

I was getting pretty close to kicking people in the nut sack for arguing that the Death Ray hit entire units.

Glad that nightmare is over.

**puma713**

Loving the Nid FAQ:

Tyranid FAQ wrote:Q: How many kill points is a unit of Tyrant Guard that
has been joined by a Hive Tyrant (including the
Swarmlord) worth? (p35)
A: One.

Tyranid FAQ wrote:Q: Can a unit take cover saves from any source other
than the terrain they are in, or touching, against
Wounds caused by an impaler cannon? (p47)
A: No.

cept:

Tyranid FAQ wrote:Q: Must every non-vehicle model in a unit that
assaults a Venomthrope brood take a Dangerous
Terrain test? (p45)
A: Yes.

Q: Do enemy models assaulting a Venomthrope brood,
or another frindly Tyranid unit within range of its Spre
Cloud, have their Initiative reduced to 1 for assaulting
through the cloud? (p45)
A: No, as the Spore Cloud is not a piece of terrain.

This means just because you took a DT, doesn't mean your initiative is reduced.

And. . .interesting:

Tyranid FAQ wrote:Q: If an Independent Character has joined a unit of
Termagants that are within 6” of a Tervigon, will they
gain all the benefits of the Brood Progenitor special
rule and, when it is slain, could they suffer damage due
to the Brood Progenitor special rule? (p52)
A: Yes to both questions.

**AresX8**

Someone care to explain how this works?

Q: If a transport vehicle is destroyed in a Movement
phase in which it has moved flat out, what happens to
any embarked models, as passengers may not
disembark from a vehicle that has moved flat out in
that Movement phase? (p70)
A: They are removed as casualties.

Does this only happen during the movement phase?

**Xca|iber**

AresX8 wrote:Someone care to explain how this works?

Q: If a transport vehicle is destroyed in a Movement
phase in which it has moved flat out, what happens to
any embarked models, as passengers may not
disembark from a vehicle that has moved flat out in
that Movement phase? (p70)
A: They are removed as casualties.

Does this only happen during the movement phase?

They just reworded their ruling on what happens when you, say, move Flat-Out with a Fast Skimmer into a piece of terrain, FAIL your dangerous terrain test, and suffer an immobilized result, which is immediately upgraded to a wrecked result (Note that all this happens in the controlling player's movement phase). Since you are told to disembark the passengers but are unable, the passengers are destroyed.

It's a fairly rare occurrence. It has no effect on how transports react to enemy actions, except those that might cause vehicles to take dangerous terrain tests.

**HoverBoy**

SlaveToDorkness wrote:
Don Mondo wrote:Way old. New stuff is in red.

Actually it is reworded, in pink.

You're both wrong it's magenta.

**winterman**

AresX8 wrote:Someone care to explain how this works?

Q: If a transport vehicle is destroyed in a Movement
phase in which it has moved flat out, what happens to
any embarked models, as passengers may not
disembark from a vehicle that has moved flat out in
that Movement phase? (p70)
A: They are removed as casualties.

Does this only happen during the movement phase?

It means if you wreck a transport in your movement phase (death or glory, skimmer going fast and immobilizing due to dangerous terrain being the main ways) then your guys inside die. Its been that way for awhile, they just reworded it to remove refrences to turn (and make it easier for folks who forgot that turn means player turn not game turn).

**Samus_aran115**

Puma713... I can't stop staring at your avatar. Sauce please?

Also, I wonder why they're releasing these so soon to 6th? I wonder if they'll be usable in the next edition.

**Etna's Vassal**

Wow, what a bad ruling on Warptime. My Plague Marines were already teetering on the edge of obscurity, now they're firmly in mothballs.

Yeah, I'm really bitter about this one.

**Riddick40k**

Q: When a unit of 10 Space Marines with the Combat
Squad special rule arrives from reserve as two combat
squads, can they move on from, or Deep Strike onto,
two different locations? (p23)
A: Yes.

Bout

time! i can finally run the DOA army i've always wanted

**Swara**

ShumaGorath wrote:
G. Whitenbeard wrote:" Q: If a Death Ray passes over 3 models out of 10 in a unit, how many hits does that unit take?
A: 3"

Thank God.

I was getting pretty close to kicking people in the nut sack for arguing that the Death Ray hit entire units.

Glad that nightmare is over.

That was the house ruling I gave it the first day, because as a Necron player even I thought that would be way too nasty!

**puma713**

Samus_aran115 wrote:Puma713... I can't stop staring at your avatar. Sauce please?

Her name is Vanessa Lake. NSFW

Also, I wonder why they're releasing these so soon to 6th? I wonder if they'll be usable in the next edition.

Kinda makes me wonder if this FAQ release is sort of like damage control. "Don't look at those leaks, look at all these new, pretty FAQs!"

**rodgers37**

How can Lash be a psychic shooting attack but JOTWW isn't?
Stupid GW

**notprop**

New format - Weird it seems to suggest that there is am error on my screen but it all looks perfectly normal to me?

**Riddick40k**

Q: Can a vehicle with star engines perform a tank
shock or ram in the Shooting phase? (p44)
A: No.

Q: Can I take a flickerfield save against becoming
immobilised from a Dangerous Terrain test? (p63)
A: No. The save from a flickerfield can only be taken
against glancing and penetrating hits

Q: Does the Dodge (4+) special rule confer a 4+
invulnerable save against Wounds caused by a vehicle
exploding in close combat? (p27)
A: No.

Both Eldar and Dark Eldar just got royally

**puma713**

Riddick40k wrote:Q: Can a vehicle with star engines perform a tank
shock or ram in the Shooting phase? (p44)
A: No.

This isn't a new ruling. You never could do this.

Riddick40k wrote:Q: Can I take a flickerfield save against becoming
immobilised from a Dangerous Terrain test? (p63)
A: No. The save from a flickerfield can only be taken
against glancing and penetrating hits.

Similarly, I don't know anyone who has tried to do this.

Riddick40k wrote:Q: Does the Dodge (4+) special rule confer a 4+
invulnerable save against Wounds caused by a vehicle
exploding in close combat? (p27)
A: No.

Because exploding vehicles are treated like shooting attacks, and you're technically not in "close combat" when you're based with a vehicle.

**rodgers37**

Riddick40k wrote:

Both Eldar and Dark Eldar just got royally

No, not at all.