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Ovion wrote:Sooo, you want to play fallout? :p

You didn't need to aim in fallout. Vats is FLUCKING DUMB. And Boring

I'm something of a glutton for punishment (I find the ninja gaiden games to be rather enjoyable), so I'd be just fine playing as an imperial guardsmen in the warhammer universe. Instead of being this bad ass who can do everything, you're woefully outclassed in virtually every way when fighting some of the nastier things of the galaxy. You don't charge a rampaging khorne berzerker with your lasgun, you fall back and take over a vacant autocannon and set up a choke point to blow him to hell when he comes in. Since life is short as an imperial guard, you could rank up to something of an officer very soon in the game, and you start giving orders to your squaddies.

I like feeling outclassed against an opponent. It makes it all the more sweeter when you take em down.

Necroshea wrote:I'm something of a glutton for punishment (I find the ninja gaiden games to be rather enjoyable), so I'd be just fine playing as an imperial guardsmen in the warhammer universe. Instead of being this bad ass who can do everything, you're woefully outclassed in virtually every way when fighting some of the nastier things of the galaxy. You don't charge a rampaging khorne berzerker with your lasgun, you fall back and take over a vacant autocannon and set up a choke point to blow him to hell when he comes in. Since life is short as an imperial guard, you could rank up to something of an officer very soon in the game, and you start giving orders to your squaddies.

I like feeling outclassed against an opponent. It makes it all the more sweeter when you take em down.

Indeed, and the game could be Sandboxy as in you rank up and acquire honors based on what you kill.

Say, you a fething good shot and kill a Chaos Lord with a sniper rifle you get promoted higher, or win medals awards ect.

ChocolateGork wrote:

Ovion wrote:Sooo, you want to play fallout? :p

You didn't need to aim in fallout. Vats is FLUCKING DUMB. And Boring

Wait, you actually used VATS?
awkward.

Joey wrote:

ChocolateGork wrote:

Ovion wrote:Sooo, you want to play fallout? :p

You didn't need to aim in fallout. Vats is FLUCKING DUMB. And Boring

Wait, you actually used VATS?
awkward.

I always hated VAT's I prefer good old fashioned sniping.

Nothing like sending a 50 cal bullet through Ceasers head from 2 miles away .

How about an airsoft video game? They make paintball ones, might as well do the cooler counterpart.

killykavekommando wrote:might as well do the cooler counterpart.

Hahahaha oh wait you're serious. You airsoft players always crack me up. Always so serious when you play and so certain that your hobby is better than paintball when they're both practically the same thing.

Seriously though, an airsoft game is a terrible idea. It would be like playing any fps out there, only there's no death animation and no blood. You just shoot at things until you hit them and they walk away/dissapear.

However, I've played one or two of the paintball games, and as soon as I was given a tutorial on how to wipe a shot (basically rubbing off the paint when the refs aren't watching) I immediately shut the game off as I was rather disgusted. So those aren't too great either.

Video games allow us to do crazy fictitious things that we simply can't do in real life. Why make a game about the limitations of real life when the whole idea of a video game is to bypass those boundaries?

Joey wrote:

ChocolateGork wrote:

Ovion wrote:Sooo, you want to play fallout? :p

You didn't need to aim in fallout. Vats is FLUCKING DUMB. And Boring

Wait, you actually used VATS?
awkward.

The actual shooting in the game was infective, inaccurate and just felt horrible.

Necroshea wrote:

killykavekommando wrote:might as well do the cooler counterpart.

Hahahaha oh wait you're serious. You airsoft players always crack me up. Always so serious when you play and so certain that your hobby is better than paintball when they're both practically the same thing.

Seriously though, an airsoft game is a terrible idea. It would be like playing any fps out there, only there's no death animation and no blood. You just shoot at things until you hit them and they walk away/dissapear.

However, I've played one or two of the paintball games, and as soon as I was given a tutorial on how to wipe a shot (basically rubbing off the paint when the refs aren't watching) I immediately shut the game off as I was rather disgusted. So those aren't too great either.

Video games allow us to do crazy fictitious things that we simply can't do in real life. Why make a game about the limitations of real life when the whole idea of a video game is to bypass those boundaries?

I was kidding about making an airsoft game, but not about it being better than paintball. However, I play in a combat simulations group where we use real gun external parts from the military and surplus gear so my experiences with my spetznas team will definitely vary from yours.

ChocolateGork wrote:

Ovion wrote:Sooo, you want to play fallout? :p

You didn't need to aim in fallout. Vats is FLUCKING DUMB. And Boring

you actually used vats?

killykavekommando wrote:

Necroshea wrote:

killykavekommando wrote:might as well do the cooler counterpart.

Hahahaha oh wait you're serious. You airsoft players always crack me up. Always so serious when you play and so certain that your hobby is better than paintball when they're both practically the same thing.

Seriously though, an airsoft game is a terrible idea. It would be like playing any fps out there, only there's no death animation and no blood. You just shoot at things until you hit them and they walk away/dissapear.

However, I've played one or two of the paintball games, and as soon as I was given a tutorial on how to wipe a shot (basically rubbing off the paint when the refs aren't watching) I immediately shut the game off as I was rather disgusted. So those aren't too great either.

Video games allow us to do crazy fictitious things that we simply can't do in real life. Why make a game about the limitations of real life when the whole idea of a video game is to bypass those boundaries?

I was kidding about making an airsoft game, but not about it being better than paintball. However, I play in a combat simulations group where we use real gun external parts from the military and surplus gear so my experiences with my spetznas team will definitely vary from yours.

Giving your team the name Spetznas doesn't make you special forces...

A modern version of Space Hulk that is a total ripoff of Left 4 Dead's versus mode!

killykavekommando wrote:I play in a combat simulations group where we use real gun external parts from the military and surplus gear so my experiences with my spetznas team will definitely vary from yours.

Yeah, this is why I've NEVER gotten along well with some airsoft players. When I go out to play paintball, I play to have fun. When some of you airsofters go out, you play just to live the life of something your not. I've seen people out there doing the hand signs, bringing radios (never using them), wearing all the gear, and getting mad at people who want to play that come out with nothing but a tshirt, blue jeans, and running shoes.

I'm not targeting you specifically, I'm just saying that airsoft players are pretty much pricks in general trying to live a fantasy life of being uber commando 2.0, and light help you if you ever tell them it's silly.

Henners91 wrote:A modern version of Space Hulk that is a total ripoff of Left 4 Dead's versus mode!

That would be pretty cool, I just wish there was a way to make it atmospheric. Like when you play one of the AVP games as a marine, your traveling down these dark corridors while your motion detector keeps going haywire (or is it??). When an alien pops out and tries to drop you it's more often than not quite a scare. However when playing l4d vs mode that atmosphere is gone. I wonder if there's a way to versus mode more suspenseful.

Also l4d2 10v10 is so much fun it should be illegal.

Well AVP's multiplayer is still pretty immersive; you want to do that to a L4D style game then you have to minimise the interface and not have any visible (whilst alive) references to kills/points/progress... just a HUD with a motion detector, ammo count and your health. Perhaps highlight your squad mates.


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To be fair I was always thinking 'Space Hulk!' when I played AVP's multiplayer. It's definitely inspiring as a game due to its atmosphere, but I think L4D's versus mode would make a great Space Hulk multiplayer

How about another Chrono Trigger?

Henners91 wrote:Well AVP's multiplayer is still pretty immersive; you want to do that to a L4D style game then you have to minimise the interface and not have any visible (whilst alive) references to kills/points/progress... just a HUD with a motion detector, ammo count and your health. Perhaps highlight your squad mates.


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To be fair I was always thinking 'Space Hulk!' when I played AVP's multiplayer. It's definitely inspiring as a game due to its atmosphere, but I think L4D's versus mode would make a great Space Hulk multiplayer

This is why mods exist
Now do it.

Necroshea wrote:

killykavekommando wrote:I play in a combat simulations group where we use real gun external parts from the military and surplus gear so my experiences with my spetznas team will definitely vary from yours.

Yeah, this is why I've NEVER gotten along well with some airsoft players. When I go out to play paintball, I play to have fun. When some of you airsofters go out, you play just to live the life of something your not. I've seen people out there doing the hand signs, bringing radios (never using them), wearing all the gear, and getting mad at people who want to play that come out with nothing but a tshirt, blue jeans, and running shoes.

I'm not targeting you specifically, I'm just saying that airsoft players are pretty much pricks in general trying to live a fantasy life of being uber commando 2.0, and light help you if you ever tell them it's silly.

My experience at Uni has kind of backed this up; spending a fortune on laser sights 'n' whatnot... it's just... err... well, there's a character named Mike on a SitCom called 'Spaced' who rather well sums up the Army reject, armchair general and all-round 'war enthusiast'


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CthuluIsSpy wrote:

Henners91 wrote:Well AVP's multiplayer is still pretty immersive; you want to do that to a L4D style game then you have to minimise the interface and not have any visible (whilst alive) references to kills/points/progress... just a HUD with a motion detector, ammo count and your health. Perhaps highlight your squad mates.


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To be fair I was always thinking 'Space Hulk!' when I played AVP's multiplayer. It's definitely inspiring as a game due to its atmosphere, but I think L4D's versus mode would make a great Space Hulk multiplayer

This is why mods exist
Now do it.

I cannot for I am an idle peasant with no skills.

We need... a hero...

ChocolateGork wrote:

Joey wrote:

ChocolateGork wrote:

Ovion wrote:Sooo, you want to play fallout? :p

You didn't need to aim in fallout. Vats is FLUCKING DUMB. And Boring

Wait, you actually used VATS?
awkward.

The actual shooting in the game was infective, inaccurate and just felt horrible.

Not to me.
Shoot enemies in the face until they die!

I could shoot accurately without VATS and a LOT more accurately at long range, and on occasion, VATS came in handy especially for close-up work.

Basically VATS was useful for getting point blank headshots with a shotgun.

I used VATS as a radar. When I couldn't exactly pinpoint where something is. Oh, there it is.

VATS was useful for when you were facing large quantities of enemies and wanted to deal with them quickly.

corpsesarefun wrote:VATS was useful for when you were facing large quantities of enemies and wanted to deal with them quickly.

Isn't that what big guns was for?

It was also good when you felt like being lazy.

Either way I'd prefer the game without it honestly, perhaps with scatter toned down a bit more with skill. At lower and upper levels it was pointless to not use it at times (free shotgun headshots without any effort, or free revolver headshots)

Melissia wrote:Basically VATS was useful for getting point blank headshots with a shotgun.

Pretty much, once I got a riot shotgun I was able to just stand in a pack of enemies and just vat headshot them at pointblank range

Soladrin wrote:

corpsesarefun wrote:VATS was useful for when you were facing large quantities of enemies and wanted to deal with them quickly.

Isn't that what big guns was for?

I'm afraid I never used big guns, explosives or melee for some reason, always small guns or energy weapons.

So your telling me you never used a grenade machine gun....

Or more importantly, the unqie rocket launcher with all explosive perks on.

Soladrin wrote:So your telling me you never used a grenade machine gun....

Or more importantly, the unqie rocket launcher with all explosive perks on.

I love my Sniper Rifle and Anti-material rifle. It's very fun to sneak up to someone and put a bullet flying through there head from point blank range. It's also fun to surround someones bed with mines so when they wake up.......

BOOM

Nope, the three characters I developed fully were a gunslinger type (revolvers) , a stealth type (silenced pistols) and a mad scientist type (energy weapons, normally plasma).

It's even more fun to fire a rocket at something miles away, wait half a minute. Then run to it, and discover you just killed half a town.