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You do realize that at 16 in Louisiana you *can* be emancipated and therefore be allowed to make your own choices and *gasp* choose to have -legal- sex?
But apparently you do not believe that any 16 year old is capable of making any rational decision that is exclusively reserved for "adults" of 17 or older because it is entirely unthinkable that a 16 year old is capable of thought beyond choosing what they are going to wear or if they should text that person that they are crushing on.
You do realize that at 16 in Louisiana you *can* be emancipated and therefore be allowed to make your own choices and *gasp* choose to have -legal- sex?
But apparently you do not believe that any 16 year old is capable of making any rational decision that is exclusively reserved for "adults" of 17 or older because it is entirely unthinkable that a 16 year old is capable of thought beyond choosing what they are going to wear or if they should text that person that they are crushing on.
Let me guess. You're 16.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
TheMeanDM wrote: But apparently you do not believe that any 16 year old is capable of making any rational decision that is exclusively reserved for "adults" of 17 or older because it is entirely unthinkable that a 16 year old is capable of thought beyond choosing what they are going to wear or if they should text that person that they are crushing on.
Well, they can… unless they are girls, apparently, according to you .
"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
https://twitter.com/WarComTeam/status/1268665798467432449/photo/1
I've known guys that targeted younger women because they believed they were easier game. The older they got the wrist they were to men's game. There are lots of opportunities for adults, no reason to go after illegal targets.
You did not say it verbatim, hence the “apparently”:
TheMeanDM wrote: If it were the exact same story just with genders flipped? I would admittedly choose to believe that there would have been pressure and coercion on the part of the male teachers.
"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
https://twitter.com/WarComTeam/status/1268665798467432449/photo/1
This looks like it has the potential to be the most fun thread in a while. Respect will be lost. Hatred will be gained. In the end, we'll all lose, and only Yakface will be the true winner, as we all tear each other apart.
Or we just sacrifice Ouze or something, and it all blows over. Whichever.
Reality is a nice place to visit, but I'd hate to live there.
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This is what happens when you live in a state that thinks Chickory coffee should be used for anything other than restarting a stopped heart.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
Crazy people can be hot too! Just because they committed a crime, it doesn't mean they can't be hot. Well, one on left is hot. The other looks like she forgot her makeup. Criminals are people too. I'm gonna go dress up like a HS football player and offer the one on the left a couple conjugal visits while she serves her sentence.
Reality is a nice place to visit, but I'd hate to live there.
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Due to work, I can usually only ship any sales or trades out on Saturday morning. Please trade/purchase with this in mind.
TheMeanDM wrote: If it were the exact same story just with genders flipped? I would admittedly choose to believe that there would have been pressure and coercion on the part of the male teachers.
No cookie, sorry. I didn't say our hyppthetical femald *didn't* choose her actions
I merely stated that I felt it more probable that were it male teachers...I would be far more apt to believe that pressure and influence would play a significant role in the situation which made our make believe female student feel as if she only *had* one choice.
Unless of course you are a huge believer in the movie Wild Things....
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TheMeanDM wrote: No cookie, sorry. I didn't say our hyppthetical femald *didn't* choose her actions
I merely stated that I felt it more probable that were it male teachers...I would be far more apt to believe that pressure and influence would play a significant role in the situation which made our make believe female student feel as if she only *had* one choice.
Is it because you believe women to be incapable of being forceful manipulative jerks like you believe men can be, or is it because you think of boys as much more capable to resist pressure than girls? If the latter, you clearly owe me a cookie. In both case… that is not something to be proud about.
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"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
https://twitter.com/WarComTeam/status/1268665798467432449/photo/1
Is it because you believe women to be incapable of being forceful manipulative jerks like you believe men can be, or is it because you think of boys as much more capable to resist pressure than girls?
And the bingo players can cross off "the victim asked for it". Um...thanks?..for going there?
Is it because you believe women to be incapable of being forceful manipulative jerks like you believe men can be, or is it because you think of boys as much more capable to resist pressure than girls?
And the bingo players can cross off "the victim asked for it". Um...thanks?..for going there?
He probably rufied them. They invited him over for a congratulatory dinner after a good game, he doctored their drinks, and got them both! I've solved the case, gentlemen. Dakka is saved!!
Reality is a nice place to visit, but I'd hate to live there.
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Because I didn't say the victim initiated this....yet if you read the above quote...he clearly is floating that idea out there...and attempting to pass it off as mine...which it is not..nor was it implied.
TheMeanDM wrote: Because I didn't say the victim initiated this....yet if you read the above quote...he clearly is floating that idea out there...and attempting to pass it off as mine...which it is not..nor was it implied.
That's not at all what his post says.
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That society has deemed a 16 year old incompetent enough to make a legal decision to have sex....but can make a legally competent decision to murder someone strikes me as *very* moronic....and indeed...it definitely shows the hangup America has regarding sex.
No, its about the fact that adults are forbidden by law to have sexual relations with children. There are VERY good reasons for this being the case. Its also about the fact that educators have a professional relationship with their students, and need to abide by certain rules of behavior. I had a buddy that did 5 years in Alabama state prison for "statutory rape" because he was 18 when he had sex with his 16 year old GF. Are you suggesting that professional educators be held less responsible? Bear in mind that while a 16 year old boy might LOVE the idea of banging 2 teachers, those teachers know beyond the shadow of a doubt that the behavior does not fit with the ethics of their job description.
If this were 2 male teachers that had run a train on a young girl society would be up in arms (rightfully), no reason at all that these teachers should be charged with the crime they committed...IE statutory rape. And yes that is predicated (legally) on the societal recognition that persons under the age of 18 are incapable of giving affirmative consent in the context of disproportional power dynamics within relationships. Adults know better (not really though), at least according to the rules of our society.
The guy might not be a "victim" in the sense that he was physically harmed/abused, but the teachers absolutely took advantage of their position of power. THAT is at the heart of this whole thing.
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TheMeanDM wrote: Because I didn't say the victim initiated this....yet if you read the above quote...he clearly is floating that idea out there...and attempting to pass it off as mine...which it is not..nor was it implied.
What the hell are you talking about?
"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
https://twitter.com/WarComTeam/status/1268665798467432449/photo/1
That society has deemed a 16 year old incompetent enough to make a legal decision to have sex....but can make a legally competent decision to murder someone strikes me as *very* moronic....and indeed...it definitely shows the hangup America has regarding sex.
not all society does,
most of the civilized world has age of consent at 16-14 IIRC... (it was 14 here till fairly recently)
most also think you can drink at 16-18 and so on.
it is a bit odd that you can be singled out as "an adult totally in control and aware of your actions" at 16 in regards to murder, but not in regards to sex, booze, R rated movies, and so on.
however, in THIS specific case, its deplorable regardless of the age/gender of the teachers/student as its a teacher/authority figure and student relationship which is never ok.
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That society has deemed a 16 year old incompetent enough to make a legal decision to have sex....but can make a legally competent decision to murder someone strikes me as *very* moronic....and indeed...it definitely shows the hangup America has regarding sex.
not all society does,
most of the civilized world has age of consent at 16-14 IIRC... (it was 14 here till fairly recently)
most also think you can drink at 16-18 and so on.
it is a bit odd that you can be singled out as "an adult totally in control and aware of your actions" at 16 in regards to murder, but not in regards to sex, booze, R rated movies, and so on.
however, in THIS specific case, its deplorable regardless of the age/gender of the teachers/student as its a teacher/authority figure and student relationship which is never ok.
Exactly what I have tried to say (perhaps poorly?).
Not once have I said that this wasn't wrong...that the teachers weren't wrong..that this isn't an immoral or bad or in anyway legal act.
What I had been initially trying to discuss is that at 16 this guy could be perfectly capable of making the decision to participate in this situation....even though legally in LA he is absolved of any responsibility simply by virtue of a number, and not upon evaluation of his actual mental/emotional maturity.
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