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 ArmchairArbiter wrote:
Do we think GW will still release Engine War as an online purchase on its regular schedule?

I don’t think they will. They might just release the ebook so they have some cash inflow. I think everything’s going to be pushed back by at least two more months.

There's talk of potentially relaxing rules on social distancing/mass gatherings in as little as a few weeks if the projections on the virus spread pan out as experts hope.

So the production/head office schedule could get back on track sooner than we all think.

This is a HUGELY optimistic possibility though and there are many people in the UK ignoring the rules which just pushes this back further/prolongs the whole thing.

I know this doesn't necessarily change things for other people in other countries but with it being a UK based company, then yeah, things could be up and running potentially sooner than most are expecting.

Personally I think we'll be looking around mid July till things start getting back to normal.

endlesswaltz123 wrote:
There's talk of potentially relaxing rules on social distancing/mass gatherings in as little as a few weeks if the projections on the virus spread pan out as experts hope.

So the production/head office schedule could get back on track sooner than we all think.

This is a HUGELY optimistic possibility though and there are many people in the UK ignoring the rules which just pushes this back further/prolongs the whole thing.

I know this doesn't necessarily change things for other people in other countries but with it being a UK based company, then yeah, things could be up and running potentially sooner than most are expecting.

Personally I think we'll be looking around mid July till things start getting back to normal.

From my experiences thus weekend, about 40% of the people I've seen made no effort to comply with the rules, most of those not complying were either the middle aged lycra kind or people over 60.

I dare say the country and GW will be in lockdown a while longer.

Dudeface wrote:

endlesswaltz123 wrote:
There's talk of potentially relaxing rules on social distancing/mass gatherings in as little as a few weeks if the projections on the virus spread pan out as experts hope.

So the production/head office schedule could get back on track sooner than we all think.

This is a HUGELY optimistic possibility though and there are many people in the UK ignoring the rules which just pushes this back further/prolongs the whole thing.

I know this doesn't necessarily change things for other people in other countries but with it being a UK based company, then yeah, things could be up and running potentially sooner than most are expecting.

Personally I think we'll be looking around mid July till things start getting back to normal.

From my experiences thus weekend, about 40% of the people I've seen made no effort to comply with the rules, most of those not complying were either the middle aged lycra kind or people over 60.

I dare say the country and GW will be in lockdown a while longer.

I know the yanks get a lot of stick for being selfish, but I'd be amazed if you found a country/nation of people more selfish than ours.

Anyway, yeah, probably going to be a good while, like I said, mid July/August is my personal expectaions.

I know at least in CA they're putting everything on lockdown until May at minimum.

Dudeface wrote:

endlesswaltz123 wrote:
There's talk of potentially relaxing rules on social distancing/mass gatherings in as little as a few weeks if the projections on the virus spread pan out as experts hope.

So the production/head office schedule could get back on track sooner than we all think.

This is a HUGELY optimistic possibility though and there are many people in the UK ignoring the rules which just pushes this back further/prolongs the whole thing.

I know this doesn't necessarily change things for other people in other countries but with it being a UK based company, then yeah, things could be up and running potentially sooner than most are expecting.

Personally I think we'll be looking around mid July till things start getting back to normal.

From my experiences thus weekend, about 40% of the people I've seen made no effort to comply with the rules, most of those not complying were either the middle aged lycra kind or people over 60.

I dare say the country and GW will be in lockdown a while longer.

Yeah, but don’t forget all the people you haven’t seen because they’re staying at home. Where I live, there’s hardly anyone outside. I overlook a park. It’s been pretty much deserted apart from the occasional jogger.

endlesswaltz123 wrote:

Dudeface wrote:

endlesswaltz123 wrote:
There's talk of potentially relaxing rules on social distancing/mass gatherings in as little as a few weeks if the projections on the virus spread pan out as experts hope.

So the production/head office schedule could get back on track sooner than we all think.

This is a HUGELY optimistic possibility though and there are many people in the UK ignoring the rules which just pushes this back further/prolongs the whole thing.

I know this doesn't necessarily change things for other people in other countries but with it being a UK based company, then yeah, things could be up and running potentially sooner than most are expecting.

Personally I think we'll be looking around mid July till things start getting back to normal.

From my experiences thus weekend, about 40% of the people I've seen made no effort to comply with the rules, most of those not complying were either the middle aged lycra kind or people over 60.

I dare say the country and GW will be in lockdown a while longer.

I know the yanks get a lot of stick for being selfish, but I'd be amazed if you found a country/nation of people more selfish than ours.

Anyway, yeah, probably going to be a good while, like I said, mid July/August is my personal expectaions.

To be fair a lot of the roots of our culture come from ya'll - so would explain it. It's just you guys if you had room to move around and were less stiff upper lip. lol

It looks like we were supposed to get "Engine War" this week, as the short stories have shifted warzones to "War of the Spider".

 Kanluwen wrote:
It looks like we were supposed to get "Engine War" this week, as the short stories have shifted warzones to "War of the Spider".

<weeps in binary>

I wish they'd posted up the rules preview before they swapped. I know we have a ways to go yet, but it would be nice to be able to see what the new units do.

Quasistellar wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
It looks like we were supposed to get "Engine War" this week, as the short stories have shifted warzones to "War of the Spider".

<weeps in binary>

Maybe we still will? They did an Engine War story right before announcing the beast release.

Fingers and claws crossed for an Ebook!

Any speculation on what Imperial Knights will get in the new book?

Drdotts wrote:
Any speculation on what Imperial Knights will get in the new book?

More than Chaos Knights?

 Manfred von Drakken wrote:

Drdotts wrote:
Any speculation on what Imperial Knights will get in the new book?

More than Chaos Knights?

Now that is a good prediction!

 Manfred von Drakken wrote:

Drdotts wrote:
Any speculation on what Imperial Knights will get in the new book?

More than Chaos Knights?

Improbable, given how Chaos always gets pampered more than everyone else. First an entire Vigilus on their own, while some factions had to sit it out entirely or squeeze into a single book with everyone. Now Chaos as the only faction getting a double-dip with Psychic Awakening. New miniatures every week or so with basically every box set that comes out.

GW's Chaos favoritism is off the chart.

Sunny Side Up wrote:

 Manfred von Drakken wrote:

Drdotts wrote:
Any speculation on what Imperial Knights will get in the new book?

More than Chaos Knights?

Improbable, given how Chaos always gets pampered more than everyone else. First an entire Vigilus on their own, while some factions had to sit it out entirely or squeeze into a single book with everyone. Now Chaos as the only faction getting a double-dip with Psychic Awakening. New miniatures every week or so with basically every box set that comes out.

GW's Chaos favoritism is off the chart.

It takes a very short memory to be this convinced of GW's favouritism towards Chaos. And a great deal of hyperbole (new miniatures every week? The only Chaos miniature in PA before Fabius was the sorcerer).

Pampered? Ahahahahaha!

Ahh. That's amusing.

I wondered how chaos isnt winning tournaments like crazy, when they get "pampered more than everyone else"

 p5freak wrote:
I wondered how chaos isnt winning tournaments like crazy, when they get "pampered more than everyone else"

They are. No other faction has done nearly as well across 8th Ed. as Chaos has. From Brimstones and Big Bird to Maelific Lords, Alpha Legion Cultist rush, Endless Poxwalkers, Bash-Brothers, Blightlord lists, Deredeo-Spam, Tzaangor Rush, Plaguebearer / Smite Spam, Possessed-Bomb, etc., etc.., etc..

Other armies have spiked in between such as the Castellan or Space Marines, but across the now almost 3 years since 8th was released Chaos is far and away the top army of 40K with thousands of smaller tournament wins, consistently high placings and many big events to their name, including last years Adepticon.

Many of the last bigger tournaments before the Corona-shutdown such as Battlefield Birmingham, Chaos did not just win, but literally took all the Top 3 spots.

Yeah that's totally pampering and not something that happens every edition as GW's weird schedules and rule writers swing from error to error.

pm713 wrote:
Yeah that's totally pampering and not something that happens every edition as GW's weird schedules and rule writers swing from error to error.

Maybe. But the statement was that Chaos Knights would somehow be treated less than the Imperial counterpart.

Whether intentional or by ineptitude, this would go against the trend of the past 3 years. And whether by intent or ineptitude, Chaos are also the most successful and powerful tournament army both across 8th Ed. and "right now" (as in the weeks just prior to the Corona-shutdown).

Sunny Side Up wrote:

 Manfred von Drakken wrote:

Drdotts wrote:
Any speculation on what Imperial Knights will get in the new book?

More than Chaos Knights?

Improbable, given how Chaos always gets pampered more than everyone else. First an entire Vigilus on their own, while some factions had to sit it out entirely or squeeze into a single book with everyone. Now Chaos as the only faction getting a double-dip with Psychic Awakening. New miniatures every week or so with basically every box set that comes out.

GW's Chaos favoritism is off the chart.

Hopefully you are just trolling or you seriously forgetting the imperium bias? 40k is imperium this, imperium that and loyal marines are the ones who gets most of the toys and releases.

Bro April fools was a few days ago, you missed the mark. I just wanted to speculate with fellow imperial knight players on what we are hoping for/expect out of PA engine war. I really don’t want a pointless conversation of who’s faction is catered to more, there’s enough of that going around

I was unimpressed by the orothoptor at first but the variant with the three landing gear is OK. Might do a bomber version of that someday.

Sunny Side Up wrote:

 p5freak wrote:
I wondered how chaos isnt winning tournaments like crazy, when they get "pampered more than everyone else"

They are. No other faction has done nearly as well across 8th Ed. as Chaos has. From Brimstones and Big Bird to Maelific Lords, Alpha Legion Cultist rush, Endless Poxwalkers, Bash-Brothers, Blightlord lists, Deredeo-Spam, Tzaangor Rush, Plaguebearer / Smite Spam, Possessed-Bomb, etc., etc.., etc..

Other armies have spiked in between such as the Castellan or Space Marines, but across the now almost 3 years since 8th was released Chaos is far and away the top army of 40K with thousands of smaller tournament wins, consistently high placings and many big events to their name, including last years Adepticon.

Many of the last bigger tournaments before the Corona-shutdown such as Battlefield Birmingham, Chaos did not just win, but literally took all the Top 3 spots.

That's 5 factions you listed. Please try again.

Death Guard, Thousand Sons, Renegades and Heretics, Chaos Marines, and Daemons of Chaos are all Chaos factions so the point kinda stands, I guess?

 Kanluwen wrote:
Death Guard, Thousand Sons, Renegades and Heretics, Chaos Marines, and Daemons of Chaos are all Chaos factions so the point kinda stands, I guess?

Not really, because if you treat every Chaos faction as the umbrella of 'Chaos' as a way of saying Chaos gets the most attention, then the umbrella of 'The Imperium' gets far more attention than Chaos does.

Quasistellar wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
It looks like we were supposed to get "Engine War" this week, as the short stories have shifted warzones to "War of the Spider".

<weeps in binary>

*coruscates hot daemonic tears*

 Kanluwen wrote:
Death Guard, Thousand Sons, Renegades and Heretics, Chaos Marines, and Daemons of Chaos are all Chaos factions so the point kinda stands, I guess?

Is it unfair that those 5 factions have had a whole 3 release waves over 8th? It's hardly showering them with affection.

Especially when of those releases all were either totally new units or replacements of finecast/3rd ed kits apart from the terminators which admittedly seemed... odd.

 ImAGeek wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
Death Guard, Thousand Sons, Renegades and Heretics, Chaos Marines, and Daemons of Chaos are all Chaos factions so the point kinda stands, I guess?

Not really, because if you treat every Chaos faction as the umbrella of 'Chaos' as a way of saying Chaos gets the most attention, then the umbrella of 'The Imperium' gets far more attention than Chaos does.

And yet, the bits I was replying to were treating every Chaos faction as the umbrella of 'Chaos'...and I mean, it is worth mentioning that if one were to actually look at things?
-Reworked Chaos Daemon ranges for Tzeentch, Nurgle, and Slaanesh. This was a knock-on effect from Age of Sigmar.
-A Chaos Knight kit with weapons exclusive to it...and a whole faction that is otherwise shared models with Imperial Knights.
-Death Guard range with new character, vehicle, and infantry models. Plus Mortarion and a Typhus resculpt.
-Thousand Sons range with new characters and infantry models. Plus Magnus and an Ahriman resculpt.
-Chaos Space Marine range saw a rework of the core infantry, Havocs, Terminators(a still relatively new kit!) and some new characters plus a rework of Abaddon. Add to this the new Start Collecting set from Shadowspear with Obliterators and easy build CSMs. Also the release of the CSM Sorcerer with Faith & Fury.
-Blackstone Fortress has been pretty clearly a testing ground for potential new goodies down the line.


Imperium has seen, by comparison:
-Marines saw the addition of Phobos stuff post-Shadowspear and the supplement books/Psychic Awakening have added a single character to each.
-Reworked Sisters of Battle range(which has been phenomenal)
-A small amount of new AdMech stuff, of which a big chunk hasn't actually released yet.