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Soladrin wrote:

nectarprime wrote:

Soladrin wrote:No as in, killing someone with it has no beneifit at all. Doesn't require any skill, doesn't help with challenges. Absolutely useless.

Someone is mad that they get killed by it all the time

Not really, it's easier to dodge then a grenade. I'm just annoyed that so many people use such stupid builds...

There's nothing else to use really, it's the best second perk.

Sckitzo wrote:Also MrH, how did you unlock the power sword? Preorder bonus?

You could also complete a single level in Kill Team.

MrH wrote:

Soladrin wrote:

nectarprime wrote:

Soladrin wrote:No as in, killing someone with it has no beneifit at all. Doesn't require any skill, doesn't help with challenges. Absolutely useless.

Someone is mad that they get killed by it all the time

Not really, it's easier to dodge then a grenade. I'm just annoyed that so many people use such stupid builds...

There's nothing else to use really, it's the best second perk.

Bolt pistol extended mag, The quicker boost thing, Impenetrable. All better.

So was the Yakkety Sax for the silly lag issues, or for joy of Powerswording?

MrH wrote:There's nothing else to use really, it's the best second perk.

Death From Above, Impenetrable, and Air Cooled Thrusters are all great perks, and oddly help you stay alive and kill things faster without dying. Final Vengeance is useless until you die, and then its just there to annoyingly kill the poor sap who is too close or can't get away in time.

Yeah, improving death is just dumb to put anything into, I prefer to stay alive and get streaks.

Soladrin wrote:

MrH wrote:

Soladrin wrote:

nectarprime wrote:

Soladrin wrote:No as in, killing someone with it has no beneifit at all. Doesn't require any skill, doesn't help with challenges. Absolutely useless.

Someone is mad that they get killed by it all the time

Not really, it's easier to dodge then a grenade. I'm just annoyed that so many people use such stupid builds...

There's nothing else to use really, it's the best second perk.

Bolt pistol extended mag, The quicker boost thing, Impenetrable. All better.

You take Impenetrable + Final Vengeance, it's the best combo.


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Anvildude wrote:So was the Yakkety Sax for the silly lag issues, or for joy of Powerswording?

The lag.


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Platuan4th wrote:

Sckitzo wrote:Also MrH, how did you unlock the power sword? Preorder bonus?

You could also complete a single level in Kill Team.

KT will never released for the PC, the only way to get the PS on PC was to pre-order with THQ directly.

How is it the best combo? Seriously? I don't die often enough for that thing to make up for extra killing power with other things I use every 5 seconds.

Soladrin wrote:How is it the best combo? Seriously? I don't die often enough for that thing to make up for extra killing power with other things I use every 5 seconds.

If you're not dying as Assault I guess you don't go for flags? Jump in, kill one guy, die, kill the 3 people on the flag with FV. That's how it usually goes for an Assault Marine. I guess it comes down to play style, if you hang back and only pick off stragglers I guess other perks might work better.

If that's what you want, then you probably should take death from above and final vengeance. Drop in and damage everyone nearby, jump, dro again, attack, die, explode.

FV is good.

I go for every flag, lag might make the big difference here, I almost never have any, so I can actually dodge stuff.

Also, bolt pistol outdamages a lot of the supposed "snipe" weapons except for lascannon offcourse. Which kind of offsets it too.

Have I said bolt pistol is awesome yet?

MrH wrote:If you're not dying as Assault I guess you don't go for flags? Jump in, kill one guy, throw grenades, jump away, heal, rinse repeat

I made an adjustment

Going in expecting to die isn't going to bring the most out of the class, especially since usually points have other assaults and tacticals on them who can most easily escape (assuming they're paying attention, I know I don't sometimes).

I've never had a problem getting away provided I don't get in over my head. If you want to a clear a point, a PC Dev does it better and doesn't have to die to do it.

Blind grenades also do it...

Soladrin wrote:Blind grenades also do it...

It depends. I like frag to deal with the concussion shield Devs sometimes have (though to be honest I don't see many Devs use it...)

Melissia wrote:If that's what you want, then you probably should take death from above and final vengeance. Drop in and damage everyone nearby, jump, dro again, attack, die, explode.

It's not what I want LOL, it's just what happens, that's why I don't really play Assault very often. You very rarely see an Assault Marine dominate. I top pretty much every game as Tactical/Devastator but as Assault it's much harder.

Soladrin wrote:Have I said bolt pistol is awesome yet?

I like it too, it's a 1 shot kill to the head (without shield) AFAIK.

LordofHats wrote:

MrH wrote:If you're not dying as Assault I guess you don't go for flags? Jump in, kill one guy, throw grenades, jump away, heal, rinse repeat

I made an adjustment

Going in expecting to die isn't going to bring the most out of the class, especially since usually points have other assaults and tacticals on them who can most easily escape (assuming they're paying attention, I know I don't sometimes).

I've never had a problem getting away provided I don't get in over my head. If you want to a clear a point, a PC Dev does it better and doesn't have to die to do it.

If you have time to do all that and no one kills you I have no answer for you. There is no way I'd let an Assault Marine jump in, kill someone, throw nades and escape before I've killed him.

Devs are the least problematic for AM IMO, just land behind them.

Tacticals heavy melta/stormbolter.

And well, another assault class is about 50/50 match up (if they have any clue what they are doing, and not just mashing the melee button. So much fun to shoot those!)

I absolutely love using the Stalker Bolter/Melta combo, you can pick off anyone you like at range and if someone gets too close you just blast them with the Melta gun.

MrH wrote:If you have time to do all that and no one kills you I have no answer for you. There is no way I'd let an Assault Marine jump in, kill someone, throw nades and escape before I've killed him.

I've never had a problem with it (not that its a sure system) Granted, I'm jumping away when the nades fly. Good tacticals can make sure an assault can't kill them at all buy rolling and then shooting some melta to the face

Melta, the bane of the assault marine

LordofHats wrote:

MrH wrote:If you have time to do all that and no one kills you I have no answer for you. There is no way I'd let an Assault Marine jump in, kill someone, throw nades and escape before I've killed him.

I've never had a problem with it (not that its a sure system) Granted, I'm jumping away when the nades fly. Good tacticals can make sure an assault can't kill them at all buy rolling and then shooting some melta to the face

Melta, the bane of the assault marine

The second a tactical starts rolling, just whip out the trusty pistol and jump away, you can kill them before you land again, or just land on them.

I've dominated by jumping around the center point on the sewer map (waste management? or something? It's not as common as I'd like it to be) and escaping any time there's anything bad going down. And by escaping I mean jumping away while tossing grenades at whatever's killing me.

MrH wrote: You very rarely see an Assault Marine dominate. I top pretty much every game as Tactical/Devastator but as Assault it's much harder.

I top most of my games as assault.... impenetrable and death from above, drop down on someone and start swinging my powersword, fly away, drop on someone else, swing power sword. repeat until you have 10 to 20 kills. Also, bolt pistol anything that tries to doge you're initial slam.

I'll give Death From Above a go the next time I play.

I dominate the vast majority of my games as Assault, and normally have kill streaks thrown in as well.

http://steamcommunity.com/id/sckitzo/screenshot/595822332323837717?tab=public

I do take Death From Above and FV, and constantly cap and uncap flags. But when you have 3 Dev/Havocs dug in hard near their spawn murdering your team FV is a good way to disrupt them.

I've stopped using blind grenades though, their just to much of a negative impact on my teamates as they always seem to run into the blind zone right before I land, and having them back me up trying to take a flag is nice.

It's also nice when dealing with all the lascannon spam we see on the larger maps, when half of the enemy team is literally playing camp and snipe it allows me to have a field day.


Edit: Also, if anyone wants to team up, just shoot me a message on steam :3
http://steamcommunity.com/id/sckitzo

Think of it this way.
FV stops you rising as one of the undead.

purplefood wrote:FV stops you rising as one of the undead.

Only if it destroys the brain Food only if it destroys the brain. Otherwise you just rise in pieces

LordofHats wrote:

purplefood wrote:FV stops you rising as one of the undead.

Only if it destroys the brain Food only if it destroys the brain. Otherwise you just rise in pieces

I'm fairly confident it will...
If not we can just carry more explosives around with us... dangerously unstable explosives.

lol, I've only reached 32. I can't honestly stand the game much if I hit a snag and get lots of gakky hosts.

Which is all the time.

I only have crappy hosts once in a great while. I hear PS3 and PC have a bad habit of giving you bad hosts...

I think on xbox you have to have broadband or better?

On PC there's still people using dial-up. Dunno about PS3.

Either way it's impossible to tell because like most P2P games it doesn't show actual ping because it's embarassed that everyone's ping is so high even when they're five green bars (because P2P is a gakky system).