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**flashkid123**

I have won 7 games in a row

**pretre**

flashkid123 wrote:I have won 7 games in a row

I have never lost a game, am extremely well endowed and drive a space shuttle. Welcome to the Internet!

In all seriousness, however, we're just giving you feedback on your list. You may have done well with it so far against local opponents, but that doesnt mean you can't tinker to make it better.

**flashkid123**

No im not bragging im just saying thats how effective the list is.
I will post up a revision soon.

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celestine 115

uriah 90

x7 death cult assasins 105
rhino 35

x2:
battle sister squad 125
x2 meltaguns 20
rhino 35

x3:
exorcist 135

x2:
dominion squad 70
x2 flamers 10
combi flamer 10
simulacrum imperialis 20
immolator 65
multimelta 15

1490

That gives me 10 points to play with.
Yes i want to kepp the sims

**pretre**

Dozer blades?

**Jancoran**

yeah, i get that but if they are in tanks, you hit nothing. thats the thing. Also, if they get out further away to the rear, your flamers might graze them a little but not like you'd really want them to. So that's all i am getting at. I spose you can always charge and grenade the vehicle to death. That's an option...

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Dozer blades are key for Dominion.

**Spidey0804**

pretre wrote:Dozer blades?

I would try and work 3 into the list. 1 for the DCAs and 2 for the dominions.

**flashkid123**

So what should i ditch? (apart from sims)

**Grundz**

The only hole I'm seeing you could drop is the combi flamers

I'm looking at maybe starting sisters, so thanks for the extremely informative thread guys

**pretre**

I wouldn't change it. Maybe use the 10 points to get 2 dozers for doms and leave it at that. Having it for the dca is almost required, but it is a low points level, so whatever.

**Spidey0804**

Grundz wrote:The only hole I'm seeing you could drop is the combi flamers

I'm looking at maybe starting sisters, so thanks for the extremely informative thread guys

Np. I know we are but a few I think this has been one of the best Threads I have ever participated in. If you dont have the models yet I really recommend proxying a couple different builds to see what you like best then once you find it build from that base.

**flashkid123**

Well said.
The combiflamers are soooooo useful though because 3 TL flamers is dangerous even to terminators

**Jancoran**

Well I guess the issue in a nutshell is, are you feeling lucky? Cause if you are you dont need the dozer blades and lets face it, they wont always be necessary. But I just think that getting them stuck in the backfield, while not "catastrophic", certainly does not help your strategy. getting the Battle Conclave stuck is less of an issue. So if you had to choose...

**Spidey0804**

OK so I just signed up for a qualifier for the NOVA Invitational.

1750 pnts you guys know my list but its a 2k list that is built for the open. What should I shave to bring it down to 1750 with out losing its punch.

I attached the list just in case anyone doesn't feel like looking for it.

Or- Do in need to bring something entirely different?

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**Amerikon**

flashkid123 wrote:Well said.
The combiflamers are soooooo useful though because 3 TL flamers is dangerous even to terminators

Yeah, never get rid of your combi-weapons. They're just incredibly clutch.

**pretre**

Drop some upgrades on the SoB rhinos and maybe a repentia squad or Seraphim squad and you should get down closer.

At 1750, I would run:
St C
Conclave
2-3 Doms
2 BSS
3 Heavies

**Spidey0804**

Its Nova format though so 2 BSS isnt going to work need to have at least 3

**pretre**

Spidey0804 wrote:Its Nova format though so 2 BSS isnt going to work need to have at least 3

Very true. Hmm. You're probably going to drop most of the Repentia and Seraphim to make it work then.

St C
Conclave with Uriah
3 BSS
2 Doms
3 Heavies

**Spidey0804**

Im thinking dropping the Seraphim squad and 1 PE and then reducing the number of Repentia would get me really close. That way the list would play almost exactly the same way,

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As for Celestine im not even bothering with her lol

**Amerikon**

Spidey0804 wrote:What should I shave to bring it down to 1750 with out losing its punch.

What can you drop?

You can drop a BS squad and a PE, that'll put you around 1720, about enough to by two more Seraphim or Repentia. But I have to imagine that one PE is just about functionally equivalent to none at all. So in that case you could drop a BS squad, both PEs and add an Exorcist. You'd have to find 20 more points, but you could get that from dropping the HKs on your BSS Rhinos.

You could drop the Seras and one of the Repentia squads, that should be right around 250 pts.

Do you know what the missions are like? Is there a large emphasis on objectives?

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Ah, I missed the NOVA part. I did pretty well with the NOVA missions with only 2 Troops, although it was at 1500 pts and not 1750.

If you want to keep your 3 BSSs, it's up to you what you'd rather have. Penitents or Repentia. If you want the Repentia you can drop the PEs and the Seraphim and have about 40 extra points. If you want the PEs you'd have to drop either both Repentia or a single Repentia and the Seraphim.

**pretre**

Celestine at 1750 is brutal, but to each their own.

**Spidey0804**

Yeah 5 objectives in all games troops count as full points even if there is 1 guy left in the squad for table quarters. So going with any thing less that 3 is already ham stringing me.

**calypso2ts**

You need at least three troops for Nova missions.

This is really hard with the style of list you use (also, why do you use so many storm bolters - maybe I missed it somewhere but I have long since ditched them completely in favor of Meltas) Anyway...

You really need to have both Repentia in this list to make it work - right? The concept being to overload your opponent with those Power Weapon threats? I would, therefore, lose the Seraphim and a PE (I think that almost enough points 80 for PE and another 130 for the Seraphim?) The last 40 you can get by dropping one Rhino for a SoB squad, reserve them and walk onto your CnC objective since you absolutely know at Nova there will be a CnC objective there. If you drop the 4 points in storm bolters and ditch one searchlight, you should be spot on.

This is off the top of my head, so my math might be slightly off - I think this preserves the character of your list and playstyle.

**pretre**

I would drop the HKs, DB and extra SBs on the BSS rhinos to get an easy 90 points before dropping a rhino. That's a 5 man repentia squad right there.

**Spidey0804**

Looks like Im going to be spending some time on Army Builder tonight...

**pretre**

Uriah - 90
5 DCA / 3 Crusaders - 120
Rhino w/ Dozer Blade - 40

BSS - 10 with Melta and SB, SB for Sup - 141
Rhino - 35
BSS - 10 with Melta and SB, SB for Sup - 141
Rhino - 35
BSS - 10 with Melta and SB, SB for Sup - 141
Rhino - 35

Dom - 5 with Melta x2, Combi - 100
Immo - TL-MM, Dozer - 85
Dom - 5 with Melta x2, Combi - 100
Immo - TL-MM, Dozer - 85

Rets - 5 with 3 HB, 1 MM, SB - 93
Rets - 5 with 3 HB, 1 MM, SB - 93

Penitents x2 - 170

Repentia x7 - 124
Repentia x7 - 124

1742

So just dropping the seraphim and the crazy bss rhino upgrades get you there.

**Spidey0804**

Thanks pretre looks solid.

**calypso2ts**

I did not even see the Rhino upgrades - I did not know people actually took extra SB's on them!

I might lose still lose at least one BSS Rhino and buy one for the Rets instead so they can ride in in Dawn of War or give it to another squad in other deployments.

**pretre**

Yeah, I've been fighting him on it for weeks. Making each rhino cost 75 points is crazy to me.

**Jancoran**

well shoot, he gets to fire 8 shots from that thing. It's a fair amount of shots from a vehicle whose contents are normally a non factor when inside. It's not totally horrible. Thats a lot of shots overthe course of a game potentially.

I'd say the rhino wont last but really, with more pressing threats inthe face of the enemy, it wont always be a burning target for enemies to focus on necessarily til the big boys are dropped and Dominion handled.

anyways, I'm not saying its the way to go. but I dont entirely hate that idea either.

**Amerikon**

I can plausibly see a case for HK missiles on your BSS's Rhinos. Those tend to be the least fired upon of all my vehicles, so if I found myself with 20 or 30 points that I couldn't think of a way to spend, that seems like a pretty OK use of points.