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 Overread wrote:
Of course it depends where in the motion you pause it because no legs on the ground is also realistic

Spoiler:

GW's poses are BS. I want hover horses now!

A bit more seriously, the complaint isn't actually all that out there. Unlike beefy Chaos steeds skinny elven horse ankles may prove to be one of those less durable things that break for people who actually use the models in games instead of just sitting them on a shelf. GW has proven not to care how flimsy their models are as long as they can cast and ship them on sprue. End user troubles don't usually enter into their design process. I can certainly see Cronch's point, looking at the picture in the article. Might prove to be fine in real life, but until I actually see that proof I can't help but feel concerned about it.

No one here has played Rohan for Middle Earth obviously. 20 odd years of plastic horses in charging poses and as long as you're not cack handed, they're perfectly fine.

Very nice! The classic elf look doesn't suit my personal preferences but I can seriously respect the quality of design. My elfophile friends are really going to love them.

As it happens, I spent a lot of time today working on three Rogue Trader Rough Rider horses, and boy did their 1-2 feet down poses annoy me during this process. I had "wisely" cut out all the plastic tabs that connected the in-air hooves to the base, so I ended up having to pin one of the horses down because of course the miniscule plastic connection point between hoof and base eventually broke while I was trying to pin the metal rider down.

It's also a real illustration of how much GW's horse sculpting has advanced over the years, the RT steeds didn't even have saddle belts moulded on, just a simple square shape suggesting a saddle.

Aw man I'm not a fan of elfs in general but these Lumineth look lovely.

Truly the Silver Helms High Elf players have been waiting for for the last 20 years.

 Agamemnon2 wrote:
As it happens, I spent a lot of time today working on three Rogue Trader Rough Rider horses, and boy did their 1-2 feet down poses annoy me during this process. I had "wisely" cut out all the plastic tabs that connected the in-air hooves to the base, so I ended up having to pin one of the horses down because of course the miniscule plastic connection point between hoof and base eventually broke while I was trying to pin the metal rider down.

It's also a real illustration of how much GW's horse sculpting has advanced over the years, the RT steeds didn't even have saddle belts moulded on, just a simple square shape suggesting a saddle.

That's because they just used the WFB horses, and for those, the saddle, stirrups and etc were modeled on the riders, not the horses.

Yep for a long time horses were mostly a generic shape - a few varied sculpt modifications, but by and large quite plain. I think we really started to see more wild poses with the wild riders for Wood Elves (very glad those models were not retired from sale). Since then GW has just been getting better and better.

My Ossiarch Deathriders also show another aspect which is that mounts have got bigger over the years in comparison to the rider.
It's one thing I'd like from revised Deamonette Seekers (although even more so fro the human variation where the male rider appears to be sitting on what amounts to a small pony in equivalent size ). If you look at the art the Seeker mount is quite broad and large; yet the current models the seekers are quite small in comparison to the rider. The old Diaz were more of a size though the riders were also much smaller too.

 Overread wrote:

Cronch wrote:
1 hoof on the ground, on an animal which is well known for it's delicate feet even IRL. GW's allergy to stable miniatures is well-established now.

Have you seen a horse run?

One hoof on the ground is realistic

You've completely missed the point.
It's another GW model where the connection between base and model is tiny, and essentially leaves you hoping nothing happens to the model. Those are gaming models, not display pieces, they need to survive being handled, and maybe occasionally knocked off the table or rattled in the carrying case.That's my complaint, not if the trot is realistic (what if elves are actually denser than lead and the horse can't trot at all? )

Rattled in carrying case? Switch to magnetic storage/transport and there's no rattling. Model is there just like it would be on display shelves.

Just how rough are some of you playing with your models?

Rough riders... rough gamers!

Actually I'd say my current horses from GW - the Deathriders - are pretty stable and safe. Lets not forget many models only have a small contact point of two feet on the base - even way back in the old "slotta" era there was only really the feet on the model (The slot was glued in so the feet were the weak contact point).

I've more issue with flying things all told - things like khinerai, which are much more fragile.

Having two points is significantly more stable though, even with a similar amount of contact area. Personally I would not play those cavalry without additional support, but I know myself. All of my models are VERY well glued.

 Overread wrote:

I've more issue with flying things all told - things like khinerai, which are much more fragile.

The horses have as many points of contact as the khinerai, and actually fewer than say, stormcast prosecutors.

If we're not hearing complaints about Nighthaunt models breaking mid-game, then I have no worries about the sturdiness of the Lumineth models...

The updates keep saying these are coming soon. when do people think these will be released? I would love it if they came in March, but is it too wishful to think that?

GW has stated 'Spring 2020', so some time between March 20th and June 20th.

Carlovonsexron wrote:
The updates keep saying these are coming soon. when do people think these will be released? I would love it if they came in March, but is it too wishful to think that?

Slightly too wishful. We're at a month of bi-weekly updates, and there are still two releases that were shown off at the Vegas Open that haven't generated a Monday article of rambling text.
By April (ie, three more updates), we might start seeing signs of the release. Or at least a ramble about the book or models we haven't already seen.

I'm guessing April pre-order for May release. Lizards will be in March.

Have there been any leaks regarding the price for the Cav ?
I want those bits for my shining spears/eldar

 Argive wrote:
Have there been any leaks regarding the price for the Cav ?
I want those bits for my shining spears/eldar

Prices are the last thing we'll learn about, in the week pre-orders go up.

At a guess I'd assume they'll have the same price as the Ossies' cavalry. The LVO preview suggests the elves will be released in a five-man box as well, and Ossies were released after the last round of price hikes, so new releases in the near future should be priced similarly to comparable units the undead just got.

Seraphon next week!

Also, three new Start Collecting sets:

EDIT see above

Sniped. But cool for the Seraphon finally. And finally a starter for the Daughters. Interesting choices for it certainly.

This settles it, no new models. Oh well, they took to long, my hype's gone. The SC boxes are all really good though, especially the skink one.

Decent SC boxes. But for the love of Khaine the Daughters need a leader model other than Morathi that's not part of the Bloodwrack kit

GoatboyBeta wrote:
Decent SC boxes. But for the love of Khaine the Daughters need a leader model other than Morathi that's not part of the Bloodwrack kit

Well, there'll be the Daughters warband for Underworlds whenever that drops.

Personally, I think this is a good solve. Three potential leaders in one set puts you in Magmadroth territory.

Bah. No new Saurus Cavalry.

They're talking about seraphon's "coalescence", meaning some of the lizards have become flesh and blood again. Guess the summoning will still be there, though.

The warscroll cards show tokens for 1 and 5 CCP, I assume it'll be coalescence points for summoning.