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More giant robots vs more giant monsters......

You just can't go wrong with that

Very excited!! Anybody else?

I liked the first movie, looking forward too another.

 Ouze wrote:
I liked the first movie, looking forward too another.

Agreed.

Neat.

Looks at Pacific RIm, looks at the new Godzilla movie...

Go Godzilla.

 Frazzled wrote:
Looks at Pacific RIm, looks at the new Godzilla movie...

Go Godzilla.

I still want that crossover.

 Frazzled wrote:
Looks at Pacific RIm, looks at the new Godzilla movie...

Go Godzilla.

I liked Godzilla better (mostly), but there is room in my heart for both franchises.

Godzilla was incredibly boring, Pacific Rim wasn't. Very excited for the sequel.

I loved Pacific Rim as much as some of my favorite Godzilla movies. I won't argue that it was a great movie, but it was a great movie for me.

At least the boring new Godzilla movie had a positive payoff.

Well there you go. I said that a film that only made back half its budget would never get a full blown sequel, that you'd get direct to DVD at best. I got that wrong, this must have done silly numbers in its merchandising.

I am responsible for a more-than-fair share of that.

 sebster wrote:
Well there you go. I said that a film that only made back half its budget would never get a full blown sequel, that you'd get direct to DVD at best. I got that wrong, this must have done silly numbers in its merchandising.

The first film did extremely well overseas and doubled it's budget, so it's not like the film flopped. Hollywood is increasingly showing an interest in the value of non-domestic markets.

Part of it is also probably the success of Godzilla proving the commercial viability of Kaiju films in the US enough that Legendary could get investors behind another Rim movie. I highly doubt it's a coincidence this green light is finally given on the heels of Big-G's success.

 LordofHats wrote:
The first film did extremely well overseas and doubled it's budget, so it's not like the film flopped. Hollywood is increasingly showing an interest in the value of non-domestic markets.

Part of it is also probably the success of Godzilla proving the commercial viability of Kaiju films in the US enough that Legendary could get investors behind another Rim movie. I highly doubt it's a coincidence this green light is finally given on the heels of Big-G's success.

Just looked it up and sure enough, 100 million domestic, 300 million international. Still, that led me to an interesting article on Forbes that listed movies with similar performances - Troy (130m & 360m, The Golden Compass (72m & 300m), The Mummy Tomb of the Dragon Emperor (100m & 400m), Hansel & Gretel (55m & 175m). What's interesting there, to me, is that it kind of disproves the old complaint about Americans having no taste in movie - other than Pacific Rim all those movies are terrible (well Troy is more not that good than terrible, but the rest are pure stinkers).

Anyhow, the other interesting thing to note is that those other films are seen as bombs, and in a few cases bombs that killed their franchises, despite doing pretty decent business worldwide. Interesting that Pacific Rim gets seen in a different light. I suspect in part it might be Hollywood waking up to overseas markets, and it must also be recognition of merchandising, but the other part may be that Pacific Rim is pretty intensely loved out on the internets - between sinking a couple of hundred million in to a sequel to a film that did 400 million that no-one liked, like Golden Compass, or putting that money in to a sequel that made 400 million worldwide that is much loved by its fan base, I think that makes a fair difference.


http://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2013/08/01/the-wolverine-waterworld-and-other-flops-that-werent/

Wait... I assume the Jaegers and Kaijus now all wear capes? I thought only superhero movies could get sequels. :-P

Excited for this, Pacific Rim was a big bag of win.

 sebster wrote:


Hansel & Gretel ....


terrible

What? That was one of the best comedies I've seen in years. A third of the actors doing period accents, a third speaking in completely modern idiom, and a third just randomly switching back and forth... it was brilliant!
And don't get me started on the witch diabeetus or I'll start laughing and wake my girl up.

As long as they don't do any more stupid "it's analogue so therefore is immune to EMP" type rubbish - my wife and I just looked at each other at that point in the movie and shook our heads

But yeah - great movie, and I hope for a really fun follow up.

I'm excited for this sequel as I liked the first one but found it quite flawed as such I see this as an opportunity to fix some of the originals problems such as the bland characters also make the story more about Mako (she's was fairly interesting) as Raleigh is boring as feth.

Hmm, could be good. The first one was OK for what it was (Giant Robots beating up Giant Monsters) but the acting was a little wooden (even the usually-very-good Idris Elba), so hopefully they fix that.

I liked the first one, but will the threat be different as ,

I can't wait to see the Mark 6s!

I wonder if humans will be on the offense or defense this time- and if we'll see trippy link hacks, or sentient jaegers.

 sebster wrote:

 LordofHats wrote:
The first film did extremely well overseas and doubled it's budget, so it's not like the film flopped. Hollywood is increasingly showing an interest in the value of non-domestic markets.

Part of it is also probably the success of Godzilla proving the commercial viability of Kaiju films in the US enough that Legendary could get investors behind another Rim movie. I highly doubt it's a coincidence this green light is finally given on the heels of Big-G's success.

Just looked it up and sure enough, 100 million domestic, 300 million international. Still, that led me to an interesting article on Forbes that listed movies with similar performances - Troy (130m & 360m, The Golden Compass (72m & 300m), The Mummy Tomb of the Dragon Emperor (100m & 400m), Hansel & Gretel (55m & 175m). What's interesting there, to me, is that it kind of disproves the old complaint about Americans having no taste in movie - other than Pacific Rim all those movies are terrible (well Troy is more not that good than terrible, but the rest are pure stinkers).

Anyhow, the other interesting thing to note is that those other films are seen as bombs, and in a few cases bombs that killed their franchises, despite doing pretty decent business worldwide. Interesting that Pacific Rim gets seen in a different light. I suspect in part it might be Hollywood waking up to overseas markets, and it must also be recognition of merchandising, but the other part may be that Pacific Rim is pretty intensely loved out on the internets - between sinking a couple of hundred million in to a sequel to a film that did 400 million that no-one liked, like Golden Compass, or putting that money in to a sequel that made 400 million worldwide that is much loved by its fan base, I think that makes a fair difference.


http://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2013/08/01/the-wolverine-waterworld-and-other-flops-that-werent/

I'd put Pacific RIm in the terrible category as well. While the special effects were decent
*Plot was absolutely horrific, childish, and...boring.
*Acting was both leaden and stupid.
*Incredible plot holes that kept popping up for no real reason.

 LordofHats wrote:

 sebster wrote:
Well there you go. I said that a film that only made back half its budget would never get a full blown sequel, that you'd get direct to DVD at best. I got that wrong, this must have done silly numbers in its merchandising.

The first film did extremely well overseas and doubled it's budget, so it's not like the film flopped. Hollywood is increasingly showing an interest in the value of non-domestic markets.

Part of it is also probably the success of Godzilla proving the commercial viability of Kaiju films in the US enough that Legendary could get investors behind another Rim movie. I highly doubt it's a coincidence this green light is finally given on the heels of Big-G's success.

I'm willing to bet this is at least a little true since I always see people comparing the two movies. Which strikes me as odd as beyond "Has giant monsters", the movies really could not be more different.

I loved Pacific Rim though, so I can't really complain that they're giving it a 2nd go even if it came by way of faulty reasoning.

 Frazzled wrote:
Looks at Pacific RIm, looks at the new Godzilla movie...

Go Godzilla.

You have got to be kidding?

Godzilla was a snoozefest.

Pacific Rim was a kid's cartoon.

 Frazzled wrote:
Pacific Rim was a kid's cartoon.

True, but so was Godzilla. The only difference between the two was that Pacific Rim was actually entertaining while Godzilla was merely boring.

Reverse that and you're right.

 Frazzled wrote:
Pacific Rim was a kid's cartoon.

I've never heard of a cartoon being live action

I'd say a more apt comparison for Pacific Rim would be Power Rangers with a budget, not Godzilla, but that's just me.

Not a fan of the first film (kinda glad I watched at a friend's who bought the DVD), so I won't be seeing the sequel.

I thought Pacfic Rim was a great movie. Sure, they're wasn't much of a complex plot that provides a subtle comment of humanity. But I watched it for the big monster fights, not that and PR did great with that subject.

Pacific Rim was okay, I guess. It had dumb fun moments, although it seemed lacking in heart or smarts for a Del Toro film. Maybe he wanted to know what it feels like to be Michael Bay?

I don't think it really *deserved* a sequel, although I understand that doesn't factor into the sequel equation even a little. And I'm not sure what a sequel will really have to offer other than probably bigger robots, bigger kaiju and more smashing. Much like Transformers sequels, I can definitely wait for it to hit the Redbox.