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Ahmmm...........

Wilson!!

Bear Grhylls could kill a space marine or possibly Jack Bauer. Though Jack would probably just shout the marine to death!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Brock sampson fights naked so he can and I quote (just youtube Brock Sampson Moment) "prey on their fear, and feel the kill like an animal"

South Park's Santa could definatley kill a space marine.

I would think one of those big Trolls in the LOTR movie could pound a space marine one-on-one. As far as a whole army versus army showdown, the Imperial Snowtroopers that basically slaughtered the rebels on Hoth with those AT-ATs were one heck of a tough and well prepared strike force. The AT-ATs at least would stomp a land raider flat, and SMs don't have tow cables.

Half-Trolls from LotR but then again the Marine would probably just shoot the troll with a bolter...

I'll say it again. AT-AT and Snowtroopers. If it weren't for the tow cables not a single transport would have escaped Hoth. SMs don't use tow cables. AT-AT POWAAAH!

No... SMs use Reavers.

EagleArk wrote:No... SMs use Reavers.

But do they use Tow cables?

Sars, Swine Flu, and the common head cold could take a SM down.

Commissar NIkev wrote:

EagleArk wrote:No... SMs use Reavers.

But do they use Tow cables?

they also have Orbital Bombardments, and power fists, power weapons, krak grenades, melta bombs... yeah...

Oh like the star destroyers in orbit wont take care of an Orbital bombardment threat? The only reason they didn't blow the place from orbit is because Darth wanted to root out Luke. Duh. Sorry the empire has space superiority here. You want to take out an AT-AT with a powerfist? That's like bringing down a building with a crowbar. Possible yes, but may take a while... and that's 4 buildings, all moving, with a fire platform on top. Just face it and concede... the Empire attack on Hoth was absolutely mastermind and overwhelming. Landraiders or not you get stepped on. Props to General Veers for efficiency, and Vaders choke to Admiral Ozzell for coming out of hyperspace too soon, giving the rebels time to prepare. (yeah I have WAY too many viewings of that movie for any sane person)

I gotta agree on Space Superiority here. The Galactic Empire's ships far outclass and out-tech the Imperial Navy. The only thing the Imperial Navy has going for it over the Empire is that most of it's ships are equipped to perform Exterminatus. In a ground conflict the Imperium could win hands-down, as the arms and armour of the Galactic Empire is at best between Tau and Guard tech-levels. But in Space, it's the Galactic Empire by a fair margin.

metallifan wrote:I gotta agree on Space Superiority here. The Galactic Empire's ships far outclass and out-tech the Imperial Navy. The only thing the Imperial Navy has going for it over the Empire is that most of it's ships are equipped to perform Exterminatus. In a ground conflict the Imperium could win hands-down, as the arms and armour of the Galactic Empire is at best between Tau and Guard tech-levels. But in Space, it's the Galactic Empire by a fair margin.

I disagree. 40k Imperium Star Ships are MASSIVE, absolutely freaking ENORMOUS!! Like Death Star sized in some cases if I recall correctly. A Ship that size has an incredible ammount of hull structure, and thus would be as tough as nails. In a Broad-side to Broad-side slugging contest, I'd put my Orks Teeth on the Imperium any day over Darth Flamers little cheese slices. =]

Guitardian: One world - Lascannon. Concentrate a few shots into the (comparitively) soft as hell knuckle on the knee of an AT-AT or AT-ST and it's going to pull a classic Cylon moment - "We were reading the Instructions Manual when the ground came up and hit us."

I think the rebels had lascannons, on all kinds of turrets and those lazooka looking guys in the trenches. Did it help? no. rope helped. The imperium would never think of using that though because it hasn't been sanctified by the techpriests. score 2 empire vs imperium.

Try out your lascannon on an AV 20 kneecap.

No the imperium would use a fething EMPEROR CLASS TITAN!!!

Wich happens to be about the size of 5 AT-ATs doing a Voltron manuever.

Pennywise the Dancing Clown

darthmatty wrote:Bear Grhylls could kill a space marine

sure! but the freakest part is the fact that, if Bear Grhylls kill a marine, he as to eat him.... surely he can also.... that guy has stomach for everything....

Guitardian wrote:I think the rebels had lascannons, on all kinds of turrets and those lazooka looking guys in the trenches. Did it help? no. rope helped. The imperium would never think of using that though because it hasn't been sanctified by the techpriests. score 2 empire vs imperium.

Try out your lascannon on an AV 20 kneecap.

It's called a Warhound Powerfist. Or a Plasma Cannon. That AT-AT just suffered a bad case of broken everything.

Nuruhuine wrote:A Ship that size has an incredible ammount of hull structure, and thus would be as tough as nails. In a Broad-side to Broad-side slugging contest, I'd put my Orks Teeth on the Imperium any day over Darth Flamers little cheese slices. =]

Oh I totally agree as far as a broadside battle goes. If that happened, there wouldn't even be -pieces- of that Star Destroyer left. The problem, though, is getting into a broadside setup when the Empire knows they'd lose, and thus be able to maneuver to avoid it. Sure, the Imperial Navy ships have more hull strength, but the problem is that their most powerful weapons would have a difficult time coming to bear on what seems to be a much faster ship that's capable of putting out an even amount of fire in a 180 degree arc.

That's what the Deatttttttttth Staaaaaar is for. 1 shot= 1 kill. ship, ewok, wookie, space marine, planet, whatever.

If only it wasn't for those meddling kids though....

Imperium crushes empire to dust. Imperium's got exterminatus, billions of las guns, mysterious ghost warriors, mssive titans, 8 foot tall super soldiers who have hundreds of years of battle experience and chainsaw swords. The Empire has weak armoured soldiers, guns that creat a ton of smoke and the stormtrooper effect. Sure, the empire has the death star, but remember that the death star was destroyed by an 18 year old and then again by a smuggler, a bear and an old ship that has to go under massive repairs after every battle.

That's why I said, if it wasn't for those dang meddling kids!

How about the God Emperor of Dune and his fanatical zealot armies of gazillions and control of the whole universe, and knowledge of all time past and future? I think he might give the Imperium a run for its money.

I would say iron man, better armour and better everthing

Tony the guardsman wrote:I would say iron man, better armour and better everthing

We discussed this and came to the conclusion that at his first meeting, Tony Stark would get his teeth kicked in, his body turned into radioactive stew and then have that stew eaten with a spork. But if he survived, he would just build a better suit to fight an SM. But then they'd send in the terminators.
All in all, the Iron Man suit couldn't stand up to a rocket-propelled, high explosive miniature nuclear device, never mind a whole volley of them. And in close combat, a Marine would just tear his head off, thanks to his hieght advantage.

I think a team of technicians could probably pry a marines helmet off enough for someone to put a grenade into the helmet and they clsoe it. one down, 999 to go.

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Munch Munch! wrote:Imperium crushes empire to dust. Imperium's got exterminatus, billions of las guns, mysterious ghost warriors, mssive titans, 8 foot tall super soldiers who have hundreds of years of battle experience and chainsaw swords. The Empire has weak armoured soldiers, guns that creat a ton of smoke and the stormtrooper effect. Sure, the empire has the death star, but remember that the death star was destroyed by an 18 year old and then again by a smuggler, a bear and an old ship that has to go under massive repairs after every battle.

lol, yes. Also the Empire doesn't even have a regular army. They had to clone soldiers because its really more of a trade federation than an empire.

Actually, by the time the the events of "A New Hope", cloning had become scarce and mysterious. Most of the stormtroopers were recriuts. Your thinking of the republic which turned into the galactic empire. But the Empire did still had some clones left. They were spread far and wide. The only pure clone force was the famous and terrifying 501st Legion who were responsible for executing Operation: Knightfall, and putting down an insurgence on Naboo led by a rebel sympathiser who was callborating with jedi who survived Order 66 along with other famous battles.

Munch Munch! wrote:Actually, by the time the the events of "A New Hope", cloning had become scarce and mysterious. Most of the stormtroopers were recriuts. Your thinking of the republic which turned into the galactic empire. But the Empire did still had some clones left. They were spread far and wide. The only pure clone force was the famous and terrifying 501st Legion who were responsible for executing Operation: Knightfall, and putting down an insurgence on Naboo led by a rebel sympathiser who was callborating with jedi who survived Order 66 along with other famous battles.

You sure about that? Pretty sure Storm Troopers are Clone Troopers. The movies certainly make it out to be that way.


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anyways, we know a Space Marine can beat a Clone Trooper.

But what about a Space Marine vs. a Jedi?

For all those involved in the above discussion about SW vs 40k:

http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=145219

Read it.

It is awesome.