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Yes. We will come and "play a game at your house"*

Truly, an impressive haul. Our jealousy will run rampant for weeks.

--Brian







* This is code for 'Take all of dstein's stuff'.

God, i wouldnt even know where to begin making with all that choice!!

OMG thats alot

Oh- Jealous! I'll be over to loot it some time when yer not expectin me.

Some more laddering


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Vitruvian XVII wrote:God, i wouldnt even know where to begin making with all that choice!!

I didn't either, so I just grabbed some translucent blue tubing and took a stab at the dials on the connector box thingy


Not exact, more of a test of the tubing for dials theory.

ahh nice use of that tube wouldnt have thought of that

It's nice to have the right size of half-round rod handy!

Looking at the cardboard panel, you really have to admire the artistry that went into that original terrain. I mean, seriously. It is gorgeous.

Oh Yeah! It has sparked my imagination ever since I first saw it. The reason I wanted to do this!

what do you use for your imperial eagle on top of the vent?

A...full...rack...

The tower is perfect! How did you build the ventilation panel (I'm not sure how t cal this part -under the imperial symbol-) is it a superposition of thin layers of plasticard or was it already shaped like?

I must also say I'm impressed with how fast you're working.

the vent thingy he said was from an old HO bit he still had left...

at dstein: that layout on your table pic looks like you already have a prebuilt terrain right there with all those rods lying about^^

the halfround rods are a real blessing...i think some day some real investing is in order on my part too... the dials have a real good feel about them...now i would put a small fitting disc inside each and then the arrow bit...and you are set! the disc as i think the arrow shouldn´t be too deep situated...
will you do the bended bitz with GS or an other material? left to the dialconnector are bended tubes...just wondering...

and boy are you the lucky one when your partner is enjoying this bargain with you even as much as you do!!! i wish my grilfriend had a bit of a nerd in her too^^

Rogue Wolves wrote:what do you use for your imperial eagle on top of the vent?

The winged skull is actually the bit from the top of the hatch from a broken Necromunda Bulkhead. I cut around it with a saw, then trimmed it up with a knife. I thought that was a very clever use of that bit myself.

Hyenajoe wrote:The tower is perfect! How did you build the ventilation panel (I'm not sure how t cal this part -under the imperial symbol-) is it a superposition of thin layers of plasticard or was it already shaped like?

I was originally thinking about laying courses of thin plastic, but I found a scrap piece of textured plasticard with an HO scale wood siding texture milled into it. The plasticard is old, you can tell by the yellowing it has next to the fresh, new white.

Viktor von Domm wrote:the halfround rods are a real blessing...i think some day some real investing is in order on my part too... the dials have a real good feel about them...now i would put a small fitting disc inside each and then the arrow bit...and you are set! the disc as i think the arrow shouldn´t be too deep situated...
will you do the bended bitz with GS or an other material? left to the dialconnector are bended tubes...just wondering...

and boy are you the lucky one when your partner is enjoying this bargain with you even as much as you do!!! i wish my grilfriend had a bit of a nerd in her too^^

I think you could do some amazing stuff in plastic Vik! Your tanks already epic in cardboard.
I was just going to paint the white faces of the gagues and use a micro pen for the dials, you think they need to be 3D too? You would almost need really really REALLY fine photo-etched brass for pointed dials. The slices of tube are only a 3mm diameter.
I'm not sure how to do those bended tubes, they bend then dissapear into the support steel, if I put any kind of bend in, it will extend beyond the support steel. The floor sits exactly in the middle of that support steel though, so maybe the pipes can terminate in the floor? What do you think? I don't know!

Yes, she is a proud geek like me!

She needs a P&M log!

Looking good as always! For the "bended" tubes, I would just use the same half rounds, and gs the bend into the side.

Micro pen for the dails should work, but 3-D would look good! And if anyone can do it, you could! But try the pen first, if you are not happy with it, go 3-D.

I wish my wife understood about geeky stuff. She jsut shakes her head and sighs when I say I need more stuff.

I have plasti-envy right now! I may have to look into doing something similar. As most of my plastic work is very small scale having the right size when inspiration hits can make or break an idea.


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For the dials I would go 3d for sure. If you have a punch, make a circle to fit inside your blue tubes, small strip for the increments and a slightly larger one for the needle. Then punch clear circles to cover it after its painted.

3mm is the outside diameter of the blue tube, they don't make punches in the odd inside diameter size. I appreciate the idea, and I agree that would look completely awesome when done, especially with a clear glass disc on top, but I just don't know how to make that happen practically. I'll play with the idea of strips though.


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CORRECTION: The outside diameter of the tube is 5mm, the inside loooks to be exactly 4mm.....maybe. You guys are killing me here!

if you have the size you could also put a 4mm half round strip with some notches carved in it. I'm thinking of the Electric companies meter on my house. the top is a half circle gauge and the bottom has a few smaller circular gauges.

Love the vent so much. And you are an incredibly lucky bastard to get your hands on all that plasticard - I'd normally be jealous, but it's worth it to see all the stuff you can do with it! Exalted this thread btw - totally deserves it.

@ Depraved, great idea! I now have all size of half-round.

@Scarper, yes, yes I am a lucky bastard! And thanks man!

But I can't be having 3D dials and carved dials on the same thing, it will ruin the whole look. You guys need to make up my mind here.

definatly give the 3D a go... will make you much more satisfied about your work!!! also i thought the hands of the meters could be done by GS?? wouldn´t that make the work much more simpler?

That is a great idea, to use the half and quarter rounds in the dials. I'd say, use them for the bottom part and GS the hands (as suggested above: another great idea!). Then paint on the hash marks for the reading. Then you can fill them with clear drying glue to create the window around them. Test that last idea on something that doesn't matter first tho.

How about this... cut the half round. gently score the increments with a razor knife just deep enough to show up after painting, the fashion the needle out of a rivet sized circle with some gs to make the needle, or plastic sliver.

The huge tube of GS that I have is about 6 years old, probably rock hard and not any good anymore. That shows you how much I use it. I'm just not comfortable with sculpting at all. Everything I try to sculpt turns out looking like gak every time i try, and when you fail repeatedly at something it isn't fun to do anymore.
A dial on a gauge IRL sits microns above the flat face of the dial (indistinguishable at this scale). Personally, I think it will look huge and bulky in 3D, you can't even see the dials on the original artwork, just the white faces, precisely because you wouldn't REALLY be able to see them at this scale! But despite my stubborn fatalistic argument on this subject, My public has spoken, and I have decided to at least try it. The very thin (>1mm) steel floral wire I use for the hatch handles is the only material I have that is even remotely thin enough. Problem is I stored the coil of wire on my magnetic tool-holder for so long it is now magnetized, so the little frakkin bits want to stick to the needle-nose pliers or knife blade, or tweezers. This is all sort of overwhelming right now. We shall see what happens tonight and this weekend when I can get in some uninterrupted working time.

But as always, thanks for your support Vik, I ALWAYS look forward to your C&C man.

Dials- dude, really? As if 1/32 rivets on 1/16 nuts isn't enough? Paint the face on the dial and call it done. If you get so deep into this sort minutia you're going to bog down and also set a precedent you may not want to copy all the time. You're already a slave to rivets.

To everyone re: dials- no disrespect intended to any of you at all. If he was going for a GD award I'd be all for it as well, but considering that other than a hi-res photo that will appear once in a thread on Dakka, almost no one is ever going to see this model that up close (and even from a foot away will still look more amazing than most terrain out there).

Just something to think about.

Thanks Skalk! much appreciated!
@Depraved- That is a great idea, that will work!

ok hold the presses...this is a very viable argument you brought forth... the scale...i like this discussion as it makes me think about the thing...GS wouldn´t work in that scale as you stated...would simply not make any sense...it would look way too cartoonish... so here is now my suggestion to solve this dilemma...i definatly would even make the markings of the numbers... i would go for colors... green, yellow and red...in the upper half...and the lower halv i would simply cover...

thanks for you valueing my C&C mate...but i am always open for reason too^^

Ahh! You mean like the "RED ZONE" on a tachometer means that you just burned out the clutch (and will shortly smell it) and are about to break something else if you don't shift NOW?

and :

when you fail repeatedly at something it isn't fun to do anymore.

... this is absolutly understandable and prooves one point : we can´t and shouldn´t do everything to perfection as it is absolutly unlikly to be achieved... i won´t be trying to blend paints in a million years i think... and my GS skills are fairly mediocre at best^^ so every time i urge someone on to make something with that stuff i secretly try to get some hints how to do it good^^


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NOW?

exactly!!!

That is amazing...