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new art

Looking good.

Possible hint at the named KoS:
Shalaxi Helbane
Amongst Slaanesh’s Daemons, the undisputed martial champion is Shalaxi Helbane. Created to fight and defeat rival Greater Daemons – especially those of the Blood God – Shalaxi has bested some of the most formidable adversaries in the galaxy, including, if rumour is to be believed, Skarbrand.

Kyriss the Perverse
In a rare alliance between the forces of Khorne and Slaanesh, Kyriss the Perverse served as one of the two Daemon lords alongside Ka’bandha on Signus Prime, luring Sanguinius and his Blood Angels Legion into a cataclysmic campaign in a failed attempt to corrupt them.

In the article, each of the Gods had the FW named Greater Daemon, the greater daemon named character, and a third greater daemon that's appeared in the fluff before. So, narrowing down the list, it'll be one of these two. (Probably the new named one)

GaroRobe wrote:
Possible hint at the named KoS:
Shalaxi Helbane
Amongst Slaanesh’s Daemons, the undisputed martial champion is Shalaxi Helbane. Created to fight and defeat rival Greater Daemons – especially those of the Blood God – Shalaxi has bested some of the most formidable adversaries in the galaxy, including, if rumour is to be believed, Skarbrand.

Kyriss the Perverse
In a rare alliance between the forces of Khorne and Slaanesh, Kyriss the Perverse served as one of the two Daemon lords alongside Ka’bandha on Signus Prime, luring Sanguinius and his Blood Angels Legion into a cataclysmic campaign in a failed attempt to corrupt them.

In the article, each of the Gods had the FW named Greater Daemon, the greater daemon named character, and a third greater daemon that's appeared in the fluff before. So, narrowing down the list, it'll be one of these two. (Probably the new named one)

Kyriss has made appearances before. There's even art of it. Shalaxi, however, is brand new and I'd bet money that it is a new named KoS.

That's who I was referring to lol
The article mentions three:
1. FW Exalted Greater Daemon
2. A named character that you can build in the box.
3. A named daemon that doesn't have a model, but has appeared in the fluff before. (Skarbraand and Kairos are both, but Ku'gath lacks a model)

Yep, that's a new name - it's a Googlewhack!

Cool Article. Very 40k themed though. I kind of wish they'd jumped between the two settings to mention how these same demons effect each in turn. I know the 'no model' ones, are from the fluff, but perhaps their included to give you a possible persona for the 'base-model' Greater demons?

Well atleast the new Keeper of Secrets named character sounds kinda cool.

Just need mortals to go with it!

Sotahullu wrote:
Well atleast the new Keeper of Secrets named character sounds kinda cool.

Just need mortals to go with it!

I would wager the Battletome for AoS will, at the very least, introduce one or two new named or flesh out named Keepers. Esp since the entrapment of Slaanesh is going to have made things even more fluid within their ranks. Some seeking to find their God; some seeking as much power for themselves as they can until their God's return and others seeking to take the Throne and displace their lost Monarch and take the title of Prince of Excess themselves.

 Overread wrote:

Sotahullu wrote:
Well atleast the new Keeper of Secrets named character sounds kinda cool.

Just need mortals to go with it!

I would wager the Battletome for AoS will, at the very least, introduce one or two new named or flesh out named Keepers. Esp since the entrapment of Slaanesh is going to have made things even more fluid within their ranks. Some seeking to find their God; some seeking as much power for themselves as they can until their God's return and others seeking to take the Throne and displace their lost Monarch and take the title of Prince of Excess themselves.

Personally, I though that Elves having captured Slaanesh as kinda dumb (putting it mildly) but I kinda started liking it more when it was fleshed out.

Sotahullu wrote:

 Overread wrote:

Sotahullu wrote:
Well atleast the new Keeper of Secrets named character sounds kinda cool.

Just need mortals to go with it!

I would wager the Battletome for AoS will, at the very least, introduce one or two new named or flesh out named Keepers. Esp since the entrapment of Slaanesh is going to have made things even more fluid within their ranks. Some seeking to find their God; some seeking as much power for themselves as they can until their God's return and others seeking to take the Throne and displace their lost Monarch and take the title of Prince of Excess themselves.

Personally, I though that Elves having captured Slaanesh as kinda dumb (putting it mildly) but I kinda started liking it more when it was fleshed out.

How did they do it? I never found out.

pm713 wrote:

Sotahullu wrote:

 Overread wrote:

Sotahullu wrote:
Well atleast the new Keeper of Secrets named character sounds kinda cool.

Just need mortals to go with it!

I would wager the Battletome for AoS will, at the very least, introduce one or two new named or flesh out named Keepers. Esp since the entrapment of Slaanesh is going to have made things even more fluid within their ranks. Some seeking to find their God; some seeking as much power for themselves as they can until their God's return and others seeking to take the Throne and displace their lost Monarch and take the title of Prince of Excess themselves.

Personally, I though that Elves having captured Slaanesh as kinda dumb (putting it mildly) but I kinda started liking it more when it was fleshed out.

How did they do it? I never found out.

Morathi basically escaped Slaanesh's belly and from that event she and the other Aelven gods that escaped the end of the world were able to craft a spell that could ensare and hold the great God and then syphon the souls from his belly. I don't think GW fleshes it out much more than that - ergo even in the big rule book they only keep it to general terms like much of the early Mythic Age Lore in the game.

Slaanesh was suffering from food coma and some kids duct taped it to the sofa.

 Overread wrote:

pm713 wrote:

Sotahullu wrote:

 Overread wrote:

Sotahullu wrote:
Well atleast the new Keeper of Secrets named character sounds kinda cool.

Just need mortals to go with it!

I would wager the Battletome for AoS will, at the very least, introduce one or two new named or flesh out named Keepers. Esp since the entrapment of Slaanesh is going to have made things even more fluid within their ranks. Some seeking to find their God; some seeking as much power for themselves as they can until their God's return and others seeking to take the Throne and displace their lost Monarch and take the title of Prince of Excess themselves.

Personally, I though that Elves having captured Slaanesh as kinda dumb (putting it mildly) but I kinda started liking it more when it was fleshed out.

How did they do it? I never found out.

Morathi basically escaped Slaanesh's belly and from that event she and the other Aelven gods that escaped the end of the world were able to craft a spell that could ensare and hold the great God and then syphon the souls from his belly. I don't think GW fleshes it out much more than that - ergo even in the big rule book they only keep it to general terms like much of the early Mythic Age Lore in the game.

To be fair, that is a sensible choice. It keeps it like the creation mythos of most real-world religions, and therefore more authentic from the perspective of Joe Bloggs and his Freeguild buddies today.

Aye plus a lot of the Mythic age stuff was set in the very early days of AoS so it being hazy helps because a fair bit of the lore has shifted a little since then. Eg one gets the feeling that the realms have gotten a little smaller since then - or at least firmed up their overall structure. I recall one story talking about how a character spent years upon years just traversing the realms only to eventually reach the mythical "edge" to see whole land masses being reformed on the rim.

I think a lot of the negative initial reaction was the fluff gave an impression of a couple demigods just marching their armies off somewhere and bagging Slaanesh up. When they gave more detail it was a lot better received.

It does sound bit silly but if you start thinking about it as mythology then it does sound kinda sensible. Group of demigods, capturing and chaining a evil entity to save their people from fate worse then death sounds mythic.

I actually liked that those elves that were made from souls taken by Slaanesh are not magically reborn but are rather broken by many ways. Having memories of end of the world and being swallowed by some nightmarish entity can't be healthy.

Sotahullu wrote:
It does sound bit silly but if you start thinking about it as mythology then it does sound kinda sensible. Group of demigods, capturing and chaining a evil entity to save their people from fate worse then death sounds mythic.

I actually liked that those elves that were made from souls taken by Slaanesh are not magically reborn but are rather broken by many ways. Having memories of end of the world and being swallowed by some nightmarish entity can't be healthy.

Aye it leads to an interesting duality for the Aelven peoples. Plus we've seen that those saved can be numerous enough to form their own nation or few enough that they are curtailed and controlled into the elite (Daughters of Khaine). In addition I think its key to remember that Aelves in the Mythic age, certainly in the early days when the Gods were fighting and capturing the great Slaanesh, were fewer in number. Through the end of the Mythic age the impression is given that their populations are far more healthy and comparable to humand and dwarf and the other races. In addition this view carries forward into the Age of Sigmar - sounding like the Aelves suffered a similar beat down and then recovery as the humans have - with perhaps an edge that humans populate and are more numerous due to a shorter lifespan and faster breeding rate than aelves.


Socially it will be really interesting to see how the shadow and light aelves turn out and how their armies and nations are structured. Will they have regular and saved aelves side by side; will they be competing with each other etc.... Also don't forget that the Idoneth show that the shattered souls and resume a normal life; the Aelves we see appearing today who are bred won't have the memories of Chaos warp unless the taint carries forward

"Helbane"? Sounds about right.

New artwork looks great.

Won't the pretenders like N'Kari be in trouble once slaanesh gets free. As they decided not to go looking and take over instead.

I hope Slaanesh doesn't get freed. I love the various warbands and army types that have sprung up since Slaanesh vanished, pretenders or loyal followers looking to free It. I feel like freeing Slaanesh sort of negates having It captured in the first place.

nagash42 wrote:
Won't the pretenders like N'Kari be in trouble once slaanesh gets free. As they decided not to go looking and take over instead.

In my mind all three groups are "aiding" in freeing slaanesh. Even those who are not actively worshipping slaanesh are causing him to stir according to the trailer.

Seekers:It's in the name and the drive to find their god

Pretenders:The sheer pride and utter narcissism of thinking you can replace a god.

Invaders:They are acting like normal

 shinros wrote:

nagash42 wrote:
Won't the pretenders like N'Kari be in trouble once slaanesh gets free. As they decided not to go looking and take over instead.

In my mind all three groups are "aiding" in freeing slaanesh. Even those who are not actively worshipping slaanesh are causing him to stir according to the trailer.

Seekers:It's in the name and the drive to find their god

Pretenders:The sheer pride and utter narcissism of thinking you can replace a god.

Invaders:They are acting like normal

This is the impression I am left with too.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

 shinros wrote:

nagash42 wrote:
Won't the pretenders like N'Kari be in trouble once slaanesh gets free. As they decided not to go looking and take over instead.

In my mind all three groups are "aiding" in freeing slaanesh. Even those who are not actively worshipping slaanesh are causing him to stir according to the trailer.

Seekers:It's in the name and the drive to find their god

Pretenders:The sheer pride and utter narcissism of thinking you can replace a god.

Invaders:They are acting like normal

This is the impression I am left with too.

Pretty much, that's how I view the factions. In the end all three are doing what Slaanesh would approve of. Hell Slaanesh was really digging Nagash's plan due to his pride and arrogance until he realised the realms will be lifeless and boring.

Fyreslayer Lore: Magmadroths on Warhammer Community.

I have to say the only thing I dislike about Magmadroths is their really old-world style "chairs" that they are ridden with. They just look so unsuitable for battle having a dwarf sitting on a little high backed chair atop a rolling powerful beast of a dragon.

It's one design choice I've never liked - heck the old dragons had huge backs to their dragon chairs - if the dragons were ever in flight those chair backs must have been like putting the brakes on the whole time due to the wind resistance.

 Overread wrote:
I have to say the only thing I dislike about Magmadroths is their really old-world style "chairs" that they are ridden with. They just look so unsuitable for battle having a dwarf sitting on a little high backed chair atop a rolling powerful beast of a dragon.

It's one design choice I've never liked - heck the old dragons had huge backs to their dragon chairs - if the dragons were ever in flight those chair backs must have been like putting the brakes on the whole time due to the wind resistance.

I find them appropriately overdone for a throne. I find the name FyreSLAYER the weird part personally.

 Ghaz wrote:
Fyreslayer Lore: Magmadroths on Warhammer Community.

The snippet about younger Magmadroths, older Magmadroths and their differences in tempermant and toughness makes me think(and hope) that there will possibly be differences in warscroll profiles.

Like the Runefathers will have tougher, tankier mounts, and Runesons will have droths with greater speed and more attacks and maybe Runesmiters will get something in between, maybe shootier?

Probably will amount to nothing and they'll all be the same but one can hope!

 nels1031 wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:
Fyreslayer Lore: Magmadroths on Warhammer Community.

The snippet about younger Magmadroths, older Magmadroths and their differences in tempermant and toughness makes me think(and hope) that there will possibly be differences in warscroll profiles.

Like the Runefathers will have tougher, tankier mounts, and Runesons will have droths with greater speed and more attacks and maybe Runesmiters will get something in between, maybe shootier?

Probably will amount to nothing and they'll all be the same but one can hope!

We already know there are Magmadroth traits that you can pick, just like artefacts of power and Warlord abilities (and a Lodge ability that lets you choose more than one). I wouldn’t assume it means more than that.

Always enjoy their lore articles. It seems like they have been doing more of them lately too.