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Noble as in caring for the defenseless weak and innocent. Not like the Space Wolves who are brutal and care nothing about civilians.

Is it the BLOOD ANGELs or the Ultramarines? Maybe the Imperial Fists?

Who protects civilians and cares about the people the most?
   
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The Salamanders, obviously.

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Iirc the salamanders are famed for their compassion and for helping civilians. I believe they formed the rearguard during one of the Armageddon wars in order to protect the planet's population. It's not my field of knowledge though, so feel free to correct me if I am mistaken.
   
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Salamanders and Space Wolves for sure.

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Space wolves who are brutal and care nothing for civilians? Aren't they the ones who nearly went to war with the inquisition after the first battle for Armageddon when the inquisition decided to kill all guardsmen and civilians who were on the planet?

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I'd either say the Salamanders, Blood Angels, Lamenters, or Ultramarines.

The Wolves will respect you if you fight with them, but Armageddon proves one thing to me: the Wolves cared more about their own image and claimed to help the civilians, but only ended up killing more by aggravating the necessary actions of the Inquisition.

Salamanders are the most humanitarian though.


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Is it the BLOOD ANGELs or the Ultramarines? Maybe the Imperial Fists?

No. It's the Salamanders.

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 monkeypuzzle wrote:
Space wolves who are brutal and care nothing for civilians? Aren't they the ones who nearly went to war with the inquisition after the first battle for Armageddon when the inquisition decided to kill all guardsmen and civilians who were on the planet?


Yep, and in doing so, they ensured many times more than those on Armageddon died. Cause they are so humanitarian and noble.

Space Wolves are noble only when it serves their image. Their ego comes first, not their care for others.


As for the main question of this thread, the Salamanders are the most 'human' of the Space Marines, maintaining their relations with families, hometowns and homeworld to a degree far, far more than any other Chapter. Now does that equal nobility? That's up to you to decide.

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Salamanders. They care about the average citizen of the Imperium which is a rarity.

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Salamanders

Black Dragons

Space Wolves

Lamenters

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The novel The Damnation of Pythos shows a good comparison of how Salamanders care for civilians a lot more than other legions

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 curran12 wrote:
 monkeypuzzle wrote:
Space wolves who are brutal and care nothing for civilians? Aren't they the ones who nearly went to war with the inquisition after the first battle for Armageddon when the inquisition decided to kill all guardsmen and civilians who were on the planet?


Yep, and in doing so, they ensured many times more than those on Armageddon died. Cause they are so humanitarian and noble.


You can be noble and short sighted at the same time.

So yes, the Space Wolves are noble and relatively kind to civilians. But they're also headstrong and short sighted and didn't think about the consequences.

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 Grey Templar wrote:
 curran12 wrote:
 monkeypuzzle wrote:
Space wolves who are brutal and care nothing for civilians? Aren't they the ones who nearly went to war with the inquisition after the first battle for Armageddon when the inquisition decided to kill all guardsmen and civilians who were on the planet?


Yep, and in doing so, they ensured many times more than those on Armageddon died. Cause they are so humanitarian and noble.


You can be noble and short sighted at the same time.

So yes, the Space Wolves are noble and relatively kind to civilians. But they're also headstrong and short sighted and didn't think about the consequences.


Heart , soul in right place, just not greatest idea. They do however follow through with there oaths and will respect humans if they earn it.

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IRON HANDS! haha........ ok seriously id say the salamanders are the most noble.

 
   
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In seriousness though Salamanders first, Imperial and Crimson Fists second in my opinion.


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Salamanders take this one easily I think.

 
   
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Salamanders, Space Wolves, and Imperial/Crimson Fists are all super protective of civilians..... then again, maybe it's space sharks or marines malevolent

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 Grey Templar wrote:
 curran12 wrote:
 monkeypuzzle wrote:
Space wolves who are brutal and care nothing for civilians? Aren't they the ones who nearly went to war with the inquisition after the first battle for Armageddon when the inquisition decided to kill all guardsmen and civilians who were on the planet?


Yep, and in doing so, they ensured many times more than those on Armageddon died. Cause they are so humanitarian and noble.


You can be noble and short sighted at the same time.

So yes, the Space Wolves are noble and relatively kind to civilians. But they're also headstrong and short sighted and didn't think about the consequences.


To be fair to the Wolves, I don't think they realised just how far the Inquisition were willing to go to ensure the silence. They assumed that the Inqusition wouldn't nuke a whole world for one guy, and in todays logic, the equivilent of exterminating a city for one man, it would hold up, but obviously, the Inq were willing to go that far so just made things worse. And in fairness to the Inquisition, the Space Wolves were in the wrong, those people needed to be wiped.

The whole Space Wolves thing has been going on for generations, the latest version of it being the FBI vs Apple thing. Security vs Freedom. Sometimes freedom is good, sometimes you need security. The Inqusition Space Wolf thing is just the 40k equivilent of Captain America: Civil War.

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My bet would be on a renegade chapter, who actually frees the common folk from their tyrannical overlord.


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If THEIR people is used in a narrow way then I should say Red scorpions. They sure do try to keep their guys save and pure.

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Salamanders space wolves and ultra marines.

Space wolves can be be jerks who need to get over themselves but generally will do their best to protect civilians when possible.
   
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The Salamanders and Space Wolves are noteworthy for giving a damn for the little guy, and not forgetting that Astartes are still human.


Other chapters include:


-The Lamenters: The story of these heroes should make one shed many manly tears.


-The Celestial Lions: Another Chapter that attempted to challenge the Inquisition for mass purging of civvies. But since they didn't have the clout of being a First Founding Chapter like the Wolves, their honorable attitudes caused them to run afoul of "Ork Snipers". The final battle with Pride Leader Ekene Dubaku leading the way (aided by Chaplain Grimaldus of the Black Templars) against the Orks, was the stuff of legends.

-The Iron Snakes: Stalwart defenders of Imperial citizens living in the Reef Stars region. Specializing in taking out the Commorragh trash, and stomping Orks.

-The Doom Eagles: Their philosophy is that through their suffering, they hope to prevent others from suffering.


The Ultramarines and Crimson Fists are also noteworthy for incidents of helping the "little people".

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Chapter 666 would be the most noble in my mind considering what they do for humanity.
   
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According to most of the fluff, the quickest Chapters to respond to pleas for aid (of the first-founding, at least) are typically the Salamanders and the Raven Guard. The Sallies because they typically keep themselves confined to their home sector (as all Chapters should, frankly), and the Raven Guard because they are deployed far and wide (unwisely) as individual forces and companies, and war leaders have autonomy to intervene as they see fit. It's ironic that these chapters have generally quite fearful appearances (Sallies have very dark skin, so as to be almost black, and eye colours that range from amber to crimson, while Ravens have papery white skin and jet-black hair, eyes and teeth), so humans who see them for the first time are typically quite intimidated.

As to the question of other Chapters, I'm of the opinion that the Space Wolves are far too concerned with their own internal culture to care much about PR, while the Blood Angels and Dark Angels are too secretive (either due to shame or vanity on both accounts) to be truly philanthropic. I view the Ultramarines as undeniably good rulers of their little pocket-empire, but typically too widely-deployed to answer calls that should really demand their attention. At worst, they're Imperialists who are one bad leader away from secessionism.

By far the worst Chapter for this (in my experience) are the Black Templars, who are responsible for a huge amount of 'BLAM! Heresy.' and not much civilian aid.

   
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Salamanders, possibly Lamenters, though they didn't turn up to aid the Blood Angels once the Tyranids spotted Bhaal and went "OMNOMNOMNOMNOMNOM!!!"

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Salamanders

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Space Wolves

Lamenters


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Sallies are definitely up there and the Doom Eagles are actually pretty nice for space marines too. Imperial Fists are jerks lol. Dark Angels can be fairly nice if it doesn't interfere with their hunt for the Fallen (with exception to Asmodai)

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 Spineyguy wrote:
It's ironic that these chapters have generally quite fearful appearances (Sallies have very dark skin, so as to be almost black, and eye colours that range from amber to crimson, while Ravens have papery white skin and jet-black hair, eyes and teeth), so humans who see them for the first time are typically quite intimidated.

All SM are giants with many scars and wounds which would incapacitate mortals many times over. They carry weapons bigger and heavier than any mortal could lift and their armour hums constantly. They often drop into battle in giant metal boxes. If a human is lucky they may hear about 5 SM helping out an IG detachment nearby once in their entire life. I really dont think skin or eye colour is a big issue.
By far the worst Chapter for this (in my experience) are the Black Templars, who are responsible for a huge amount of 'BLAM! Heresy.' and not much civilian aid.

This is definitely the truth, though a couple of the loyalist chapters in the Badab war proved themselves not to care much at all about civilians either.

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 JustALittleOrkish wrote:
 Spineyguy wrote:
It's ironic that these chapters have generally quite fearful appearances (Sallies have very dark skin, so as to be almost black, and eye colours that range from amber to crimson, while Ravens have papery white skin and jet-black hair, eyes and teeth), so humans who see them for the first time are typically quite intimidated.

All SM are giants with many scars and wounds which would incapacitate mortals many times over. They carry weapons bigger and heavier than any mortal could lift and their armour hums constantly. They often drop into battle in giant metal boxes. If a human is lucky they may hear about 5 SM helping out an IG detachment nearby once in their entire life. I really dont think skin or eye colour is a big issue.
By far the worst Chapter for this (in my experience) are the Black Templars, who are responsible for a huge amount of 'BLAM! Heresy.' and not much civilian aid.

This is definitely the truth, though a couple of the loyalist chapters in the Badab war proved themselves not to care much at all about civilians either.

Why would they? Civilians are replaceable, Astartes and ancient equipment are not.
   
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 Lord_Inquisitor_Doge wrote:
 JustALittleOrkish wrote:
 Spineyguy wrote:
It's ironic that these chapters have generally quite fearful appearances (Sallies have very dark skin, so as to be almost black, and eye colours that range from amber to crimson, while Ravens have papery white skin and jet-black hair, eyes and teeth), so humans who see them for the first time are typically quite intimidated.

All SM are giants with many scars and wounds which would incapacitate mortals many times over. They carry weapons bigger and heavier than any mortal could lift and their armour hums constantly. They often drop into battle in giant metal boxes. If a human is lucky they may hear about 5 SM helping out an IG detachment nearby once in their entire life. I really dont think skin or eye colour is a big issue.
By far the worst Chapter for this (in my experience) are the Black Templars, who are responsible for a huge amount of 'BLAM! Heresy.' and not much civilian aid.

This is definitely the truth, though a couple of the loyalist chapters in the Badab war proved themselves not to care much at all about civilians either.

Why would they? Civilians are replaceable, Astartes and ancient equipment are not.


The Salamanders would be inclined to think the contrary.

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