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timetowaste85 wrote:To be honest, I'm not even that worried about these new TAGKs. My 5 man death company with Lemartes will eat them alive (and that's assuming they have different weapons for wound allocation like Nobs)-Unless of course they are I5 with counter charge or something added on. Then I just quit. Hearing how the new Grey Knights will work, I have no fear with my BA: I think the BA can still give them a serious run for their money. However, it will be time to put my Fateweaver Daemon army back on the shelves for 6-8 years


This is assuming of course that you don't get kited around by something else and shot to death in the process, (the two rumors about psycannons are s7ap4 or s6ap3 iirc. plus stormbolters) FnP or not, that's an awful lot of potential saves to be making.

I'm curious to know which special character is going to be handing out furious charge like candy, (also becoming a trend in later codexes.)

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So, even changing the fluff to where the Inquisition has standing armies...what differentiates it from just being Guard "but better"?


The same thing that prevents them from changing fluff to make the SoB Space Marines 'but buxom'. Fanbase Head Explode-y.


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Kroothawk wrote:Small update: Frgt/10 over at Warseer confirmed the Orc & Goblin army book (Fantasy) for March, putting the GK Codex April earliest.


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That's what I think of that.


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Kroothawk wrote:Small update: Frgt/10 over at Warseer confirmed the Orc & Goblin army book (Fantasy) for March, putting the GK Codex April earliest.


Cool, now I dont have to buy it at all! Thanks GW, you saved me some money!

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Kroothawk wrote:Small update: Frgt/10 over at Warseer confirmed the Orc & Goblin army book (Fantasy) for March, putting the GK Codex April earliest.


*Pulls out suicide revolver*... *Shoots DH codex with six .44 rounds*

Bah, here's hoping that the Daemonhunters/Grey Knights codex doesn't become the new Dark Eldar...
Though I can understand where GW is coming from, trying to suck up all of the remaining Christmas money from both WH and WH40k, I do not remember the schedule.

Jan? BA second wave is Feb. March now Orc and Goblins. April GK/Daemonhunters?

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+1 Str for like 5 points? To autocannons or assault cannons? Hell yea. Then the Reinforced Aegis upgrade for free AND the ability to ignore stunned shaken.. pretty much for free..
Other Dreadnaughts should just go somewhere and be a toaster.

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bforber wrote:
Kroothawk wrote:Small update: Frgt/10 over at Warseer confirmed the Orc & Goblin army book (Fantasy) for March, putting the GK Codex April earliest.


sdfsjdf;sd;f!

That's what I think of that.




Agreed. Feb-March Ill be good to go on $$, but it will go quick. They push it back too far and Ill be broke before they release anything. That will annoy me, as Im looking forward to a couple boxes of the new GK termies.

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What month did the Bloody Blood Angels of Blood come out?

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H.B.M.C. wrote:What month did the Blood Angels come out?


The Blood Angels codex was released in April.
   
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But Nids were February

I guess they aren't dropping a codex but instead a second wave of BA and DE early in the year.

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And Dark Eldar were November. That's a long time between books.

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You could save the money?

What were you going to spend it on instead? orcs?

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hoping for april. If it's not announced by march, I will go on a BA spending spree. I am impatient. My b-day's end of march. If C:GK comes after april, I'm not in.


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Footsloggin wrote:
Kroothawk wrote:Small update: Frgt/10 over at Warseer confirmed the Orc & Goblin army book (Fantasy) for March, putting the GK Codex April earliest.


*Pulls out suicide revolver*... *Shoots DH codex with six .44 rounds*

Bah, here's hoping that the Daemonhunters/Grey Knights codex doesn't become the new Dark Eldar...
Though I can understand where GW is coming from, trying to suck up all of the remaining Christmas money from both WH and WH40k, I do not remember the schedule.

Jan? BA second wave is Feb. March now Orc and Goblins. April GK/Daemonhunters?


Jan - Skaven New Models
Feb - Blood Angels New Models
March - Orcs & Goblins Codex & Models (Apparently)
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May - Either Dark Eldar New Models or DH/GK/SOB

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There are no SOB's coming with this release.

I wish that persistent (false) rumour would just die.

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malfred wrote:You could save the money?

What were you going to spend it on instead? orcs?


I get money in April for a special occasion. Enough that I wont have to use any of the money I have worked for to buy it, only the gift money.

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GK are going to be such a freaking pain in the ass, I just know it. Looks like I'll pick up DE to combat them. I sure as hell know my CSM can't handle them.


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Begging pardon but you don't know that, and if what's being said about GK is/are true, then your DE could actually be a worse matchup; psycannons shooting your transports to death, night fight keeping you from shooting back, having to close to melee to deal with an entire army of elite close combat specialists...

If anything Chaos are, at least, Marines, and as such shouldn't have any obvious weaknesses unless you rely on a heavy backdrop of summoned daemons.
   
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malfred wrote:You could save the money?

What were you going to spend it on instead? orcs?


Who..me? My answer will be similar to Shrikes...I have a multitude of things I want, and will not have enough $$ to get them all. Unless GW has some enough info/teasers out to hold my interest Ill likely pick up other things, most of which are non GW. Funny thing is all I want are the GKT minis...I really dont care about the book. Unfortunately they wont release anything until the book comes out.

Really too early to get too worked up...all this in months away, and who knows what my purchasing priorities will be at the time.

As far as Orks go...may not ever collect a functioning army for them. At this point they are a great source when I need my fix of converting. They are just a fun race to build and paint.

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I seriously hope they dont get delayed.. GW is already dropping the ball on releasing books in a timely manner

As if it wasnt already bad enough they release a new WFB edition then neglect to put out any books for 8 months. 40k goes for 6 months without a single new book then another 5 for GKs?


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I think GW had to have planned to put out new books for the oldest armies this year. I would not be surprised to see either crons or SoB (or a stand alone inquisition book if they are not heavily included in DH, and assuming that they want to make a stand alone Inquisition book) out in 2011.

I think they are finally realizing that people still play these old armies, just using the new books they release. Except that if they came out with the new book, they can sell craptons of new models because the original army was so old, the models comparitively suck

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I think the old metal GK's are amazing looking models, whether they are annoyingly all metal or not.



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Thunderfrog wrote:I think the old metal GK's are amazing looking models, whether they are annoyingly all metal or not.


The GK termies some of GWs best IMO. Im sure everyone is hoping for little actual style changes, just a move from metal to plastic.

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malfred wrote:You could save the money?

What were you going to spend it on instead? orcs?


More paint. I'm running low.


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Nenya97 wrote: Except that if they came out with the new book, they can sell craptons of new models because the original army was so old, the models comparitively suck


The necron models are great, they just need a new codex.
   
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Mad4Minis wrote:
Thunderfrog wrote:I think the old metal GK's are amazing looking models, whether they are annoyingly all metal or not.


The GK termies some of GWs best IMO. Im sure everyone is hoping for little actual style changes, just a move from metal to plastic.


As long as they retain the amazing qualities and detail of the originals, I would be fine switching to plastic, as I find assembly will be much easier, and the paint tends to adhere better to my plastics.

Thunderfrog wrote:
+1 Str for like 5 points? To autocannons or assault cannons? Hell yea. Then the Reinforced Aegis upgrade for free AND the ability to ignore stunned shaken.. pretty much for free..
Other Dreadnaughts should just go somewhere and be a toaster.

Mattieu~~~~ It's not that eldar are bad, it's that they require a lot of intergration between units. Also, that doesnt prove anything other than GW has a huge hard-on for marines, and, given the option between making a xeno the best psykers or making a marine the best psyker, they will 9 times out of 10 choose the marine.
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Tzeentchling9 wrote:Mephy can't be swept. He is still a marine so he has the, "And They Shall Never Get Removed From The Table After Losing Combat Like Everyone Else Because They Are The Poster Boys" special rule.


 
   
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Footsloggin wrote:
Mad4Minis wrote:
Thunderfrog wrote:I think the old metal GK's are amazing looking models, whether they are annoyingly all metal or not.


The GK termies some of GWs best IMO. Im sure everyone is hoping for little actual style changes, just a move from metal to plastic.


As long as they retain the amazing qualities and detail of the originals, I would be fine switching to plastic, as I find assembly will be much easier, and the paint tends to adhere better to my plastics.


Plastic is superior for many reasons...lighter, more durable (if you use model glue), of course my fave reason...conversions...plastic is much easier to work with.

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The weakness of plastic compared to metal miniature is that all plastic miniatures are projected from two opposing planes, while metal has detail that is more encompassing 3-dimensionally.
   
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But GW's plastic tech is fairly impressive these days, so the detail is still quite good despite the limited casting range. I mean the BA kits were great, so I can imagine these plastic GK's being amazing.

And easily convertible.

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H.B.M.C. wrote:But GW's plastic tech is fairly impressive these days, so the detail is still quite good despite the limited casting range. I mean the BA kits were great, so I can imagine these plastic GK's being amazing.

And easily convertible.


Indeed. So the important part for me. I'm not even planning on buying a HQ blister, just converting one of the boxed termies.

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