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Alpharius wrote:Because that type of stuff translates so well on the Internet on a forum full of...let's just say...assertive individuals.

I thought that was why they created

On point. Considering the original goal was a mere $20K, I wonder what the extra monies will be used for! I mean, if $20K was required for the basic game, at a push $80K would probably cover all the extras that are the stretch goals......

I mean, I don't care if it's all profit that goes towards paying off the McVey's mortgage although it would also be cool if the money was going to be used to fund the next stage and progress the I.P. to the next level

Think some good stretch goals would kick this into overdrive. Last couple have been ok but nothing exciting!

what could they do ?

IdentifyZero wrote:Think some good stretch goals would kick this into overdrive. Last couple have been ok but nothing exciting!

Agreed-- this is some top-notch stuff, in my opinion. I'd hate to see this one stall out (as it's feeling like it's doing), and some exciting stretch goals and/or supplements seem like they'd be the ticket.

I'd be interested in additional physical tiles, rather than what appears to be downloadable additional tiles for the DL campaigns...

Additional tiles would be good.. or all new ones, but I'm guessing they want to save new tiles for expansion packs.

Additional minis from their existing range being included would be a nice incentive, a new one for every next 10k / 20k reached.

BrookM wrote:Additional minis from their existing range being included would be a nice incentive, a new one for every next 10k / 20k reached.

But they seem pretty adamant on keeping the Firebrand for their next expansion, so theres not that much sedition wars wise. And the rest of their stuff is limited resin

I could see why we probably haven't seen new tiles yet as a stretch.

The way he said they are made has to be VERY expensive. The whole thing is made up in 3D, then a top view shot is taken, then things added via photoshop.

There is no way that can be cheap nor quickly done. Getting a mold made up and casting for say a token or figure probably can be done in an afternoon (once the design is done)

kenshin620 wrote:
But they seem pretty adamant on keeping the Firebrand for their next expansion, so theres not that much sedition wars wise. And the rest of their stuff is limited resin

It'd be nice to get my hands on some of the limited SW resin range. Or perhaps another stretch would be for us to get rules to include the current metal vanguard troops as some sort of light troops.

sparkywtf wrote:I could see why we probably haven't seen new tiles yet as a stretch.

The way he said they are made has to be VERY expensive. The whole thing is made up in 3D, then a top view shot is taken, then things added via photoshop.

There is no way that can be cheap nor quickly done. Getting a mold made up and casting for say a token or figure probably can be done in an afternoon (once the design is done)

Actually that isn't correct, that can indeed be done pretty cheaply and quickly, and is a very rapid way to output and iterate concept art. I do this all the time, set up the object or environment in 3D, render, use that as the lighting guide, overpaint the rest in photoshop... The objects and textures in the tiles are absolutely perfect for this method, and it is a very productive way of getting from A to B quickly without compromising results. I could, without exaggeration, output a board section in a few hours, certainly no more than a workday.

That is not to cheapen the results mind you, it takes a bit of training, practice and expensive programs and a lot of experience to do that, so please don't misread that I am implying 'the boards are easy anyone can do it'. At a professional level though, then yes, the boards are pretty easy and if you already have the software necessary, very, very cheap to create. It's a great workflow!

The printing and shipping costs however could be quite expensive comparatively as the weight of stock, size and lamination would cost a few bucks (mitigated by the every increasing quantity)... Probably not that big a deal in the grand scheme though taking everything into account.

I see it also looks like we will be seeing the 270k stretch hit in the next hour or two!

$400-ish to go for an extra tank!

Delephont wrote:You know, it's always heart warming to be reminded about the gaming community's response to humour.........

Oh so that's what that was. Right.

And we've got an extra tank!

Yay, double the tanks double the fun! (for vanguard that is!)

On the topic of the future, I hope the Firebrand Expansion comes with a lot of carapace armor. I could easily use +6 of them or so....

They just posted, another Grendlr is the $300k mark.

spiralingcadaver wrote:They just posted, another Grendlr is the $300k mark.

Cool. I get the feeling that might have been the reason they showed Grendlr off with their little talk about how the sculpting process works

I take it back. The zombiecide kickstarter did very well and had horrible stretch goals with bad packing, some over $100k apart just to unlock an alternative sculpt! Since everyone is comparing the two, I think SW is going to kick some ass.

We'll make it to that I'm sure.

IdentifyZero wrote:I take it back. The zombiecide kickstarter did very well and had horrible stretch goals with bad packing, some over $100k apart just to unlock an alternative sculpt! Since everyone is comparing the two, I think SW is going to kick some ass.

Well to be fair, Zombicide was the first of the bunch to get really up there compared to all the other board games (until Ogre), they probably had no idea they would get that high and lot of their stretch goals are completely new/were meant for a future expansion. Most of the stuff here is already made, just needs to be converted to plastic and plus I think zombiecide really kinda set the foundations to stretch goals in the board game section. Other game developers could easily look at zombiecide's success and how they ran their kickstarter and find ways to make their own even better. Or it could be me just giving them too much credit

15 days is still a long way to go... plenty of time for folks to keep on pledging .. betcha it tops 400k in the end.

Necros wrote:15 days is still a long way to go... plenty of time for folks to keep on pledging .. betcha it tops 400k in the end.

More like over $500K!

And again, with the right stretch goals (which they seem to be doing with free miniatures), I wouldn't be surprised to see it finish up near Zombicide's $700K.

Fingers crossed for a female medic next.

Remember that Zombicide made $400K+/- in the last three days of its drive. Up until that point it was making about half what Sedition Wars is making per day (roughly). I'm not sure what drove the sudden interest in Zombicide - it could be that there were a lot of people late to the party (myself included), but it seems that people are onboard with Sedition Wars from the word go, so we mightn't see such a huge rush at the end.

Additionally a lot of the latter Zombicide stretch goals were kind've "We'll never make it this high, but..." style stretch goals. When they put up not-Ash at $700k they weren't expecting to make that in a day. Then they did...

This is just looking better and better, though I think I will wait until the last few days to pledge just to see exactly what I will get. But it already looks just as good of a deal as Zombicide, so I am almost certain I will be pledging.

This looks interesting. Will probably pick this up just to paint it. Anyone know how the game plays?

Avariel wrote:This looks interesting. Will probably pick this up just to paint it. Anyone know how the game plays?

Theres a short gameplay intro video. Tons of dice rolling to see things get vaporized

CURNOW wrote:what could they do ?

Personally I would like some more sprues of troops but a good goal would be some more kickstarter specific characters. That is what seemed to do it for zombicide.

General Seric wrote:This is just looking better and better, though I think I will wait until the last few days to pledge just to see exactly what I will get. But it already looks just as good of a deal as Zombicide, so I am almost certain I will be pledging.

There is an inherent flaw in that plan.

Let's say there is 200 people who think the same way as you (not entirely out of the question) who also want to get the $100 game but are waiting for the last day "to see exactly what I will get."

Well that means on the last day approx $20,000 gets dumped in by those 200 people. 20k is not an unusual amount for a stretch goal so you might have achieved a last minute rush to get a whosit or a whatsit.

HOWEVER if those 200 people were happy getting the insane value that is already available and put in the pledges a week or so in from the end (or earlier, whenever they feel it is of sufficient value) then you get to jump the total and another Stretch goal might be posted which gives even more people incentive to put their money down and those 200 people might get even more value for the $100 they put down.


TL;DR - If you think you want to pledge, do so when the starter hits a level you like. If you are worried you might miss out on cool extras, don't worry! You can ammend your pledge until the end of the starter.

Hey guys,

I am normally on Boardgamegeek mostly nowadays and only now saw this game being offered on Kickstarter via this thread.

I only mention this because the membership at Boardgamegeek is tremendous, to put it lightly. It's member list is staggering.

This game has sort of fallen through the cracks there. The success of many Kickstarter games can, in part, be attributed to promotion on that site.

In an effort to help promote the game, I recommend everyone who wants to get those stretch goals filled in a big way, the likes of which would even shame Zombicide, then go to Boardgame geek and check out the following link.
http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/125326/sedition-wars-battle-for-alabaster

Just spending time perusing that site is enough to get the game into the "Hotness" list on that site which just further adds exposure to the game.

Even better is to register there if you are not already a member and become part of the community discussing such there.

I am not trying to siphon off members from here to go there, just to spend a bit of time perusing the discussions/pictures and other info on that page in order to help in some small way.

Thanks Dakka. Lets beat the record set by Steve Jacksons OGRE and show them how to really add content to a game.

Hellfury wrote:Lets beat the record set by Steve Jacksons OGRE and show them how to really add content to a game.

Ehhh I doubt we can beat Ogre, they got a two in one with their Carwars thingy. And Steve Jackson imo is a tad more known with casual board gamers thanks to things like Munchkin. And theres the nostalgia factor.

Great suggestion Hellfury, I will do just that.

I don't think anyone here would take your message as 'syphoning' off membership, it's a big internet with broad interests, I think I can speak for all the Dakka staff when I say we do not feel competitive with other sites, it's about doing good things for the community, if you are doing something positive, your members will stay. Being members of one forum doesn't make you the enemy of another in our eyes. Hell, I am a member at B&C, 40kRadio and Coolmini, doesn't make me love Dakka any less! In fact, it's a great way to share good ideas and info

Anyhow, the point is you have presented a great suggestion that could help Mike and Ali, and I for one applaud you for the effort and considered tone in which it was presented, Cheers!