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2019/12/26 19:40:33
Subject: Star Wars Rise of Skywalker - WARNING, SPOILERS.
Breotan wrote: Ignoring the rest of this thread cause spoilers and debates. I just want to know one thing. Is this movie worth the price of a ticket to watch on the big screen?
Its Star Wars at Christmas - what else do you want to see on the big screen?
Jumanji 2?
1917?
Frozen II?
Little Women?
Just spitballing......
End your pitiful human existence, expand your mind to the vast uncaring cosmos, shed your soul and dance in the skin of the foolish and ignorant by the bloody light of the sanguine moon.
See Cats.
"Got you, Yugi! Your Rubric Marines can't fall back because I have declared the tertiary kaptaris ka'tah stance two, after the secondary dacatarai ka'tah last turn!"
"So you think, Kaiba! I declared my Thousand Sons the cult of Duplicity, which means all my psykers have access to the Sorcerous Facade power! Furthermore I will spend 8 Cabal Points to invoke Cabbalistic Focus, causing the rubrics to appear behind your custodes! The Vengeance for the Wronged and Sorcerous Fullisade stratagems along with the Malefic Maelstrom infernal pact evoked earlier in the command phase allows me to double their firepower, letting me wound on 2s and 3s!"
"you think it is you who has gotten me, yugi, but it is I who have gotten you! I declare the ever-vigilant stratagem to attack your rubrics with my custodes' ranged weapons, which with the new codex are now DAMAGE 2!!"
"...which leads you straight into my trap, Kaiba, you see I now declare the stratagem Implacable Automata, reducing all damage from your attacks by 1 and triggering my All is Dust special rule!"
2019/12/26 19:52:24
Subject: Star Wars Rise of Skywalker - WARNING, SPOILERS.
Breotan wrote: Ignoring the rest of this thread cause spoilers and debates. I just want to know one thing. Is this movie worth the price of a ticket to watch on the big screen?
Its Star Wars at Christmas - what else do you want to see on the big screen?
Jumanji 2?
1917?
Frozen II?
Little Women?
Just spitballing......
End your pitiful human existence, expand your mind to the vast uncaring cosmos, shed your soul and dance in the skin of the foolish and ignorant by the bloody light of the sanguine moon.
See Cats.
I feel like you need to be tripping balls to see that psycholedic nightmare of a musical.
2019/12/26 19:55:10
Subject: Star Wars Rise of Skywalker - WARNING, SPOILERS.
Holy crap, did you just try to quote an article from four months ago? You're way behind the "What's going on in Star Wars" game. You've missed about a dozen points where they've made clear that's not going to happen. But, you can keep hoping if it makes you feel more internet-superior I suppose?
The KK quote in said article is from 2017.
Although I've also missed anything official saying Johnson trilogy is dead so it's still the latest as far as I can tell.
2019/12/26 20:04:00
Subject: Re:Star Wars Rise of Skywalker - WARNING, SPOILERS.
Stevefamine wrote: I've never walked out of a movie before but the thought crossed my mind. I felt terrible for dragging friends to see it on Christmas day. We all left extremely dissapointed and let down.
I didnt watch spoilers or even the trailer to try and keep a fresh mindset. I really wanted to like it. It ruined Star Wars for me to the point where I'm sort of just disgusted about the entire series and how let down I was. It was unbeleiveable bad.
I will say one good thing - the film's variety of landscapes and cgi space visuals were really well done. I absolutely loved the sunken Deathstar idea and the final space battle looked great.
Very sorry to hear that the whole series is tainted for you. I saw this on Friday and liked it so much we went back on X-mas. I'm still amazed at how people can walk away from a film with such different experiences. It's fascinating, really
Breotan wrote: Ignoring the rest of this thread cause spoilers and debates. I just want to know one thing. Is this movie worth the price of a ticket to watch on the big screen?
Its Star Wars at Christmas - what else do you want to see on the big screen?
Jumanji 2?
1917?
Frozen II?
Little Women?
Just spitballing......
End your pitiful human existence, expand your mind to the vast uncaring cosmos, shed your soul and dance in the skin of the foolish and ignorant by the bloody light of the sanguine moon.
See Cats.
I feel like you need to be tripping balls to see that psycholedic nightmare of a musical.
I promise you that if you go into that movie sober you will not be certain whether your preview-watching popcorn contained mushrooms or not.
"Got you, Yugi! Your Rubric Marines can't fall back because I have declared the tertiary kaptaris ka'tah stance two, after the secondary dacatarai ka'tah last turn!"
"So you think, Kaiba! I declared my Thousand Sons the cult of Duplicity, which means all my psykers have access to the Sorcerous Facade power! Furthermore I will spend 8 Cabal Points to invoke Cabbalistic Focus, causing the rubrics to appear behind your custodes! The Vengeance for the Wronged and Sorcerous Fullisade stratagems along with the Malefic Maelstrom infernal pact evoked earlier in the command phase allows me to double their firepower, letting me wound on 2s and 3s!"
"you think it is you who has gotten me, yugi, but it is I who have gotten you! I declare the ever-vigilant stratagem to attack your rubrics with my custodes' ranged weapons, which with the new codex are now DAMAGE 2!!"
"...which leads you straight into my trap, Kaiba, you see I now declare the stratagem Implacable Automata, reducing all damage from your attacks by 1 and triggering my All is Dust special rule!"
2019/12/26 20:18:24
Subject: Star Wars Rise of Skywalker - WARNING, SPOILERS.
Holy crap, did you just try to quote an article from four months ago? You're way behind the "What's going on in Star Wars" game. You've missed about a dozen points where they've made clear that's not going to happen.
Mention one? Only thing I have seen is that they are likely going to take a several years breather before beginning another feature trilogy. Which, if and when it comes, might be Johnson's or might be not.
Mr Vetock, give back my Multi-tracker!
2019/12/26 20:33:24
Subject: Star Wars Rise of Skywalker - WARNING, SPOILERS.
Breotan wrote: Ignoring the rest of this thread cause spoilers and debates. I just want to know one thing. Is this movie worth the price of a ticket to watch on the big screen?
Its Star Wars at Christmas - what else do you want to see on the big screen?
Jumanji 2?
1917?
Frozen II?
Little Women?
Just spitballing......
Wha...urgh...EXACTLY! Its Star Wars at Christmas - what else do you want to see on the big screen?
LOL...
Jumanji: Now that was a lot of fun. Loved it! 1917: I live in the UK so it aint out until the 10th of Jan. Depends where you live, though. Looks kinda depressing. Frozen 2: C'mon, let it go already... Little Women: WHAT? ARE YOU FOR SERIOUS? ITS A BIRDS MOVIE! WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU MAN???
End your pitiful human existence, expand your mind to the vast uncaring cosmos, shed your soul and dance in the skin of the foolish and ignorant by the bloody light of the sanguine moon.
See Cats.
Moderators! Seize him!!!
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Casual gaming, mostly solo-coop these days.
2019/12/26 20:46:22
Subject: Star Wars Rise of Skywalker - WARNING, SPOILERS.
the_scotsman wrote: I can see where you're coming from with that. I did have a huge problem taking the antagonists seriously in the new trilogy, which led to the biggest problem I had with TLJ which a lot of people seemingly shared, that it seemed like the protagonists were failing due to their own stupidity rather than the overwhelming power of the first order.
I can see that, yeah. I'm personally a big fan of Kylo Ren's story and the potential within it, but he's let down by so many parts within the sequels. Similarly, the bad guys never seem to really accomplish anything meaningful narratively of their own agency, especially in TLJ.
But I disagree that having Rey win the fight against Kylo is NECESSARILY bad - it's just bad if the narrative you're going for is a traditional Luke Skywalker style hero's journey.
If it had started with TLJ, I'd be more on board with Rey's development being unconventional from the Hero's Journey. Unfortunately, it didn't, and we were essentially told that "this will be a familiar, if a tad repetitive, story arc". It's why the whiplash of TLJ against TFA feels so much stronger. If they'd stuck to one vision, one concerted effort to say "this whole trilogy will be a deconstruction of Star Wars and a subversion", instead of "the first and last will be very generic Star Wars material, but the middle will be subverting our expectations", maybe the sequels wouldn't be my least favourite trilogy.
So, as far as the majority goes, yes, I think Rey's arc should have been more akin to Luke's. That it didn't isn't necessarily bad, as you say, but that all the context suggested it being that way, it does feel narrative dissonant.
I'd argue that the narrative tension present in Rey is - and should have been - a tension between whether who we're seeing onscreen is a Luke or an Anakin. Kylo being just another Vader and Rey being just another Luke following the same story beats would have been just a meaningless rehash. In my eyes, the biggest failure overall of the sequels was Disney not having the balls to stick to the more interesting original story ideas that TLJ flirts with.
I don't see that in the film we're presented. And yes, maybe what you would have wanted from a redone TFA (where it is more like TLJ and has less in the way of repetitive story beats) would have had the "will she be an Anakin or a Luke" tension. But that's not what I saw at all in the TFA we got.
The Jedi were not ideal, a total commitment to emotionless aesceticism led to them encountering all kinds of moral injustice and Wile E. Coyote level traps throughout the prequels and just blithely accepting them. And if the setup for TFA tells us anything, it's that trying to set up everything the same way just failed faster and harder.
I think the prequels do a good job of painting the Jedi as fallible, and not as wholesome as Obi-Wan insinuates. And yes, it probably is for the best to not have a Jedi order, at least with their teachings. However, I'd argue that we don't need another sequel trilogy to go over that in the first place, and that we shouldn't have had a new trilogy from a narrative standpoint anyways.
I think viewing the story from the perspective of a patented Disposable Dark Side Apprentice we see so many of come and go throughout the prequels is an interesting perspective, as is handing us another Anakin-level "Chosen One" right after we saw the whole fall of Anakin in the prequel trilogy.
And in that vein, I don't see why we'd need another trilogy. We've seen the how the Sith can rise and the Jedi fall. We see how the Sith fall and the Jedi rise back into ascendancy. I honestly don't think we needed another trilogy, at least tied into the Skywalker saga.
We need more media in the Star Wars universe, I think, but not media about the Skywalkers.
As to Obi-wan being justified in beating Maul because "we know he's good at jumping"...
There was far more than that, as I said. Obi-Wan doesn't beat him "because he's good at jumping" - the only reason I mentioned that was it at least sets up what he's capable of.
If Obi-Wan had never demonstrated being able to do something like that, and then just gets to do it at the end because Protagonist Power, that would be unearned. However, it is shown of repeatedly that that kind of acrobatic skill is something easily in his skill set.
Rey, on the other hand, does not get this treatment. Rey never demonstrates lightsaber prowess, she's never even turned one on prior to this. She has quarterstaff skills against untrained thugs, but against a decently trained and experienced lightsaber wielder? Her being able to turn the tide as quickly as she does, with no prior input isn't established as a thing.
I can see how that could be done well, I just disagree that it was in any way during Phantom Menace. Maul is clearly supposed to be the arrogant, hot-headed, eager bad guy who gets beaten because of his hubris, but there is basically no setup for that. If anything, every time he's on screen previously in the film he's moving slowly, deliberately, and methodically, patiently tracking the heroes and even doing stuff like deliberately pulling his hood back and delivering lines slowly. His reaction time up until that point in the fight is practically superhuman, he fights two people at once to a standstill and the second he's alone against a jedi master he takes him down in an extremely short period of time.
Not really. The impression I get of Maul is sadistic, over anything else. He's silent, deliberate and methodical, but that feels like a veneer for cruel energy radiating beneath the surface, like it's all bottled in and waiting to be released.
Don't forget, he kills the actual Jedi Master, and is left dealing with an emotionally compromised apprentice - he has every right to get cocky. But he doesn't even let his guard down until he knocks Kenobi into the shaft - by this point, from his perspective, there is very little that can be done now. By all respects, he's beaten two Jedi back to back. He's showing off and flinging sparks in Kenobi's face. He looks to be silently revelling in it. The padawan jumping up and taking a lightsaber from the other Jedi who was defeated prior is not something I think Maul would anticipate.
They/them
2019/12/26 22:11:40
Subject: Star Wars Rise of Skywalker - WARNING, SPOILERS.
Holy crap, did you just try to quote an article from four months ago? You're way behind the "What's going on in Star Wars" game. You've missed about a dozen points where they've made clear that's not going to happen. But, you can keep hoping if it makes you feel more internet-superior I suppose?
Still more than you’ve quoted, buttmunch.
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Fed up of Scalpers? But still want your Exclusives? Why not join us?
Holy crap, did you just try to quote an article from four months ago? You're way behind the "What's going on in Star Wars" game. You've missed about a dozen points where they've made clear that's not going to happen. But, you can keep hoping if it makes you feel more internet-superior I suppose?
I've heard conflicting stories regarding Rian future involvement. As far as I understand it, all SW movie projects are currently on hold, but also might be alternating with the Avatar movies each Christmas to come. I do wish they would make their minds up which ever it is.
Given a choice, my dream team would be Kathleen Kennedy and Rian Johnson as they are, but also with Dave Filoni and Timothy Zahn to provide the story. That there is the new trilogy I can only hope for. If not Johnson then Ron Howard(loved Solo!), but I'd rather he would work on that Willow sequel we've hoped for since 1988...
I also hope Disney stop pushing LucasFilm beyond their means. Producing both the Sequals AND the Story movies was a recipe for disaster, and LucasFilm has done well considering they've also produced Rebels, Resistance and The Mandalorian since Disney took over - not to mention a new season of Clone Wars.
Sigh. Meanwhile, on the planet Batuu...
Casual gaming, mostly solo-coop these days.
2019/12/27 03:00:42
Subject: Star Wars Rise of Skywalker - WARNING, SPOILERS.
It was a self contained story that wrapped everything up. There isn't any need or point to a continuation, and that leads to fairly tired old actors barely trying to pretend that they care, and I guess a grown-up baby who's now a problem child and needs a life lesson about peasants or something equally tropey. Just no. If you need a fix, just rewatch the existing film.
Efficiency is the highest virtue.
2019/12/27 06:21:33
Subject: Star Wars Rise of Skywalker - WARNING, SPOILERS.
Voss wrote: A Willow sequel sounds honestly terrible.
It was a self contained story that wrapped everything up. There isn't any need or point to a continuation, and that leads to fairly tired old actors barely trying to pretend that they care, and I guess a grown-up baby who's now a problem child and needs a life lesson about peasants or something equally tropey. Just no. If you need a fix, just rewatch the existing film.
I thought they announced it would be series in which Willow would only play a small role, so basically more like a spin-off than a second instalment. Like any fantasy world, there is enough room for a new adventure with similar world elements. Considering that the universe of Willow is an extremely common fantasy universe, it's not exactly all that difficult to imagine. Plus, most live-action fantasy series these days seems to aim for young adult male as their core audience. Having one targetting a slightly younger audience of both gender wouldn't be a bad thing in my opinion.
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2019/12/27 07:45:39
Subject: Star Wars Rise of Skywalker - WARNING, SPOILERS.
Breotan wrote: Ignoring the rest of this thread cause spoilers and debates. I just want to know one thing. Is this movie worth the price of a ticket to watch on the big screen?
Its Star Wars at Christmas - what else do you want to see on the big screen?
Jumanji 2?
1917?
Frozen II?
Little Women?
Just spitballing......
Eagerly awaiting 1917.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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2019/12/27 14:47:18
Subject: Star Wars Rise of Skywalker - WARNING, SPOILERS.
Voss wrote: A Willow sequel sounds honestly terrible.
It was a self contained story that wrapped everything up. There isn't any need or point to a continuation, and that leads to fairly tired old actors barely trying to pretend that they care, and I guess a grown-up baby who's now a problem child and needs a life lesson about peasants or something equally tropey. Just no. If you need a fix, just rewatch the existing film.
I thought they announced it would be series in which Willow would only play a small role, so basically more like a spin-off than a second instalment. Like any fantasy world, there is enough room for a new adventure with similar world elements. Considering that the universe of Willow is an extremely common fantasy universe, it's not exactly all that difficult to imagine. Plus, most live-action fantasy series these days seems to aim for young adult male as their core audience. Having one targetting a slightly younger audience of both gender wouldn't be a bad thing in my opinion.
I wasn't aware of any announcements- I thought Samus was talking about a theoretical film
But yes, it is a standard fantasy universe- that's part of the problem. There aren't any specific stories to tell that need the IP or the characters.
Apparently the throw-away explanation for the giant star destroyer fleet is 'a wizard did it.'
A line somewhere that Palps 'conjured' the ships.
Just.... what?
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Efficiency is the highest virtue.
2019/12/27 16:16:39
Subject: Star Wars Rise of Skywalker - WARNING, SPOILERS.
Pretty sure palp said they had been building them. Could misremember though. Been over a week i saw it.
Even just building has massive logic issues but that's no surprise. Disney isn't even trying to be logical. Just go easiest route and copy original trilogy for easy money.
2024 painted/bought: 109/109
2019/12/27 17:44:57
Subject: Star Wars Rise of Skywalker - WARNING, SPOILERS.
Instead of a Willow sequel, they should make a Krull sequel. Fantasy with a galactic setting and consequences? I think the world is ready.
I’ll happily accept a fleet of Death Stars if they just give us one shot of a quintillion labor droids working a trillion assembly lines to the tune of Raymond Scott's Powerhouse.
Wha...urgh...EXACTLY! Its Star Wars at Christmas - what else do you want to see on the big screen?
LOL...
Jumanji: Now that was a lot of fun. Loved it! 1917: I live in the UK so it aint out until the 10th of Jan. Depends where you live, though. Looks kinda depressing. Frozen 2: C'mon, let it go already...
Huh, Frozen2 was easily better than any of the new SW movies.
Mr Vetock, give back my Multi-tracker!
2019/12/27 23:05:19
Subject: Star Wars Rise of Skywalker - WARNING, SPOILERS.
Holy crap, did you just try to quote an article from four months ago? You're way behind the "What's going on in Star Wars" game. You've missed about a dozen points where they've made clear that's not going to happen. But, you can keep hoping if it makes you feel more internet-superior I suppose?
I've heard conflicting stories regarding Rian future involvement. As far as I understand it, all SW movie projects are currently on hold, but also might be alternating with the Avatar movies each Christmas to come. I do wish they would make their minds up which ever it is.
Given a choice, my dream team would be Kathleen Kennedy and Rian Johnson as they are, but also with Dave Filoni and Timothy Zahn to provide the story. That there is the new trilogy I can only hope for. If not Johnson then Ron Howard(loved Solo!), but I'd rather he would work on that Willow sequel we've hoped for since 1988...
I also hope Disney stop pushing LucasFilm beyond their means. Producing both the Sequals AND the Story movies was a recipe for disaster, and LucasFilm has done well considering they've also produced Rebels, Resistance and The Mandalorian since Disney took over - not to mention a new season of Clone Wars.
Disney's original plan was something akin to "Star Wars Cinematic Universe" where they could release multiple SW movies a year, like MCU. It didn't quite pan out.
I doubt RJ's trilogy is going to happen. It sounds too radical for Disney, going forward so much in time that the Galaxy looks little like Star Wars we're used to see. Even if the story convinces the execs, too much departure from the estabilished universe style is probably too risky.
Mr Vetock, give back my Multi-tracker!
2019/12/28 00:49:07
Subject: Re:Star Wars Rise of Skywalker - WARNING, SPOILERS.
Stevefamine wrote: It ruined Star Wars for me to the point where I'm sort of just disgusted about the entire series and how let down I was. It was unbeleiveable bad.
I’m right there with you but we have to be honest with ourselves, was this really the final straw or is this movie actually just the crater left by 20 years of near relentless diarrhea from this IP?
RotJ was all fine and dandy up until those creepy murderous teddy bears appeared, then it all went downhill swiftly and took my childhood with it (I was 14 at the time).
I'm OVER 50 (and so far over everyone's BS, too).
Old enough to know better, young enough to not give a ****.
That is not dead which can eternal lie ...
... and yet, with strange aeons, even death may die.
2019/12/28 03:00:29
Subject: Re:Star Wars Rise of Skywalker - WARNING, SPOILERS.
Stevefamine wrote: It ruined Star Wars for me to the point where I'm sort of just disgusted about the entire series and how let down I was. It was unbeleiveable bad.
I’m right there with you but we have to be honest with ourselves, was this really the final straw or is this movie actually just the crater left by 20 years of near relentless diarrhea from this IP?
There have been some really great things made in the IP in the last twenty years as well as lots of tripe. Three Tv series, a few books, at least one film, some tabletop games and video games. So I really disagree with that statement as whilst the three sequel films were utter trash from my perspective it doesn't make every thing that went before it suddenly bad. I will just ignore those films and continue to like what I liked previously, they are no way over ridden or cease to exist just because the owners of the IP say they are.
On parle toujours mal quand on n'a rien à dire.
2019/12/28 03:15:20
Subject: Re:Star Wars Rise of Skywalker - WARNING, SPOILERS.
the johnson trilogy won't happen. I think reading between the lines it's obvious whats happened. Kennedy thought TLJ was great, a "bold fresh look at star wars" and randomly blurted out she wanted him to do a new trilogy and then the negative reactions started rolling in. It's become obvious that a lot of people wheren't happy with Johnson's take on SW, even among the movie crew, as a result disney has cooled on the idea of giving him a stand alone truilogy. right now it sounds like they're still "in talks" which suggests to me Johnson is peioridlcly calling them up with ideas and peridicly being shot down
Opinions are not facts please don't confuse the two
2019/12/28 03:19:09
Subject: Star Wars Rise of Skywalker - WARNING, SPOILERS.
I mean, technically, it’s been more than twenty years of steaming turds. But I just thought we’d stick to film and date it back to Phantom Menace. And please note, I posted near relentless diarrhea. Not absolutely relentless. There were bound to be a few things other than turds washed in on the fecal tidal wave of Star Wars. Just as a matter of statistics. We are nonetheless still talking a tsunami of gak. Rise of Skywalker is just an average reading on the gak o meter for this IP, not even a spike (like Attack of the Clones). Sure, it makes Rian Johnson look competent by comparison but, again, The Last Jedi also wasn’t a series low. These latest pieces of crap films did not ruin Star Wars; they just pull back the curtain on how rotten it’s been for a long, long time now.
Just watched the movie I would say it was okay. Not great, but not bad either. It was a good movie but without much to it. I have to admit though that after the three movies, Rey is probably the most interesting protagonist of the three trilogies with Luke being a bit too bland and "perfect" and Anakin being insufferable. Daisy Ridley did some heavy carrying job on several stretches of both last movies.
All in all, this trilogy feels too hastily thrown together, but isn't bad. The difference in style between the three movies can be pretty jaring with the first one being almost a remake, the second one trying to be complete deconstruction and the last one finally striking a certain balance. If I were to rank it, it's not quite as good as the original trilogy, but is better than the prequels. Ironically, with some fiddling like George Lucas did with the original trilogy, adding a few scenes and removing a few others, you could have a very strong trilogy.
2019/12/28 03:25:48
Subject: Re:Star Wars Rise of Skywalker - WARNING, SPOILERS.
Ultimately the sequal trilogy suffers from lacking that singular vision, and at the end of the day that's 100% at Kathleen Kennedy's door. Abrams should be given credit the film was as good as it was, and a lot of the weaknesses laid at the door of the woman who didn't think having a show runner with a vision for the trilogy excersing dictatoral power over the directors was nesscary
Opinions are not facts please don't confuse the two
2019/12/28 03:37:50
Subject: Star Wars Rise of Skywalker - WARNING, SPOILERS.
Manchu wrote: I mean, technically, it’s been more than twenty years of steaming turds. But I just thought we’d stick to film and date it back to Phantom Menace. And please note, I posted near relentless diarrhea. Not absolutely relentless. There were bound to be a few things other than turds washed in on the fecal tidal wave of Star Wars. Just as a matter of statistics. We are nonetheless still talking a tsunami of gak. Rise of Skywalker is just an average reading on the gak o meter for this IP, not even a spike (like Attack of the Clones). Sure, it makes Rian Johnson look competent by comparison but, again, The Last Jedi also wasn’t a series low. These latest pieces of crap films did not ruin Star Wars; they just pull back the curtain on how rotten it’s been for a long, long time now.
Film only does not the IP make... If we are discussing just the films then I would concur that there have been more hits than misses but that is not the whole story. With TV series this ration goes 3-1, I say that because I have not heard a single person defend "Resistance" whilst the other series have been quite widely acclaimed. Also there are some people who actually liked the prequel series (also the sequels..), I know its hard to imagine but they do exist! Personally I have found the prequels bearable to watch in various edits (Fall of the Jedi being my favourite) and for all of their faults they are still SW and feel SW which is the minimum of what should be expected and something I think the Sequel series failed at spectacularly. The same with the reboot ST series, I just don't get why anyone would choose to write a film in an existing IP and just ignore everything that makes that IP what it is bar the most obvious "skin". In RoS we see this with the bloody stupid hyperspace skipping thing, it has long been established that a ship cant jump to lightspeed in a gravity well and that hyperspace travel takes time but suddenly one can skip from planet to planet instantaneously.... It makes no sense and that is the issue with KK and JJA, they are not very good at what they do, they are good at making things pretty but that is it. The best that I can say for the sequels is that they didint have JarJar (but they did just as a director...).
