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Chikout wrote:
Does none else think that the Bretonnian stuff is just kind of boring? There's not much on the way of detail and the helmet crests are pretty much the same designs we had before. The shields also look exactly like the old ones with no added details. Keeping the face of the shields bare is sensible, but there are no nicks or dents no lady's favours hanging off the shields and barely any variation in the shapes of the shields. The swords are also all prestine with a pretty uniform design. The only nice touch I liked is the key hanging on one arm. I don't need oddles of detail but for a preview showing off a first look at new minis, I expected more. The Tomb King stuff is much better.


Well, you just said it much better than i did

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 Ahtman wrote:
I am really surprised by them being plastic, especially with the recent Horus Heresy Assault Marine arms being resin.

I'm pretty sure this is the main army setup for the box set.


 
   
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This thread goes to show you if there was ever any doubt you can't please everyone...Personally I don't think Brets/TK will be in the starter, likely Empire/O&G or Khorne/Kislev since that will likely garner a larger audience, previewing them here was a nod to the folks that had their armies squatted.

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Rumors says Empire vs Chaos or Orks in the Starter - looks more likely than Bretonnia vs Khemri.


Showing this Armies feels more like to show the audience for those Armies that no one forgot them.

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Well if its orcs on the starter I don't think they can do a worse job than Kruleboys. Truly awful lot.

   
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I imagine smart money would be on Empire v Orcs as a classic Old World match up.

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These new releases are quite interesting for what they potentially reveal about the number of models that will come in boxes, which, in turn, could offer clues into how the game will be played.

The Bret release has six swords and one axe. Five of the swords are of the same size, one is bigger. Does this indicate that these knights will be released in boxes of five? The five smaller swords are for if you want your whole unit to match, and the bigger sword is one for your leader if you wish to build a command group.

Releasing the cavalry in sets of five certainly matches current GW policy regarding mounted units, and I think all of this hints at bigger base sizes - not much of a shock there - and smaller armies than were seen during Fantasy, especially at the end. It does however raise questions surrounding how the Bretonnians will play - will the lance formation still remain? Do I need to by two boxes of these knights to make a full usable unit? I think the second is unlikely, as they will want to make things as accessible as possible, and as much as GW likes to charge as much as they can, there is no incentive to pick up this stuff if to get one unit on the field you need two boxes.

As there are the options of lances, swords and axes for the Bretonnians, it perhaps suggests the weapon options will be the defining factor in how units may be different from each other, which may prevent a large amount of rule bloat and memorisation, but may make some factions feel very similar to each other.
   
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 NAVARRO wrote:
Well if its orcs on the starter I don't think they can do a worse job than Kruleboys. Truly awful lot.


I like both the Kruleboys and OBR for their '80/90s fantasy paperback cover pastel-coloured hallucination' aesthetics, they look like they stepped out of a Blanche painting or some Heavy Metal album cover. They are truely 'retro', faux-nostalgic for a past version of themselves that never existed. They look like Warhammer Fantasy Battles would have looked in the 80s if today's technology had existed back then, if that makes any sense.

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 NAVARRO wrote:
Well if its orcs on the starter I don't think they can do a worse job than Kruleboys. Truly awful lot.


I wouldn't trust them with anything, the people who made WHFB what it was are gone. All the new 40K stuff looks exactly like AoS because it's all the same sculptors with the same training and the same orders from the top.

This is why BFG is the last hope, it's nearly impossible to mess up the ship design unless they start putting 'my little pony heads' on the front.



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 NAVARRO wrote:
Well if its orcs on the starter I don't think they can do a worse job than Kruleboys. Truly awful lot.

And I think Kruleboys are the best Orks/Orcs they have ever done. lol Really not a fan of comedy orks with heads growing from their chests...

I think the Bretonnian and Tomb Kings stuff looks good. I also hope Bretonnians vs Tomb Kings is the way they go for the starter set.

   
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 Strg Alt wrote:

Building 30 Space Marines is different from building a WHFB army. 30 models in the Old World are often only 1.5 units.


1.5? Back in 6E, certainly; maybe 7th. In 8th you'd routinely see 30 as a medium unit, with large units of 40, 50, or more. My Dark Elves normally run two combat blocks of 30, and then 50 more in eight different chaff units. And that's an elite army; when I play Skaven there might be five or six big blocks on the table along with the usual technological terrors.


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Vulcan wrote:Ah... medieval helmet crests, especially crests that size, were not steel or iron. They'd be too heavy to wear. For something that size, wood and leather and cloth are the order of the day.


Tell me you're a fantasy gamer without telling me you're a fantasy gamer. Iron? Steel? It's a bit heavier than balsawood and foamcore, right...?



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MvR wrote:
These new releases are quite interesting for what they potentially reveal about the number of models that will come in boxes, which, in turn, could offer clues into how the game will be played.

The Bret release has six swords and one axe. Five of the swords are of the same size, one is bigger. Does this indicate that these knights will be released in boxes of five? The five smaller swords are for if you want your whole unit to match, and the bigger sword is one for your leader if you wish to build a command group.

Releasing the cavalry in sets of five certainly matches current GW policy regarding mounted units, and I think all of this hints at bigger base sizes - not much of a shock there - and smaller armies than were seen during Fantasy, especially at the end. It does however raise questions surrounding how the Bretonnians will play - will the lance formation still remain? Do I need to by two boxes of these knights to make a full usable unit? I think the second is unlikely, as they will want to make things as accessible as possible, and as much as GW likes to charge as much as they can, there is no incentive to pick up this stuff if to get one unit on the field you need two boxes.

As there are the options of lances, swords and axes for the Bretonnians, it perhaps suggests the weapon options will be the defining factor in how units may be different from each other, which may prevent a large amount of rule bloat and memorisation, but may make some factions feel very similar to each other.
What if they put six knights in a box? You could still do lance formation that way, right (first rank: 1 model, second rank: 2 models, third rank: 3 models)?


 
   
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 Taarnak wrote:
 NAVARRO wrote:
Well if its orcs on the starter I don't think they can do a worse job than Kruleboys. Truly awful lot.

And I think Kruleboys are the best Orks/Orcs they have ever done. lol Really not a fan of comedy orks with heads growing from their chests...

I think the Bretonnian and Tomb Kings stuff looks good. I also hope Bretonnians vs Tomb Kings is the way they go for the starter set.


Agreed, the Kruleboyz are the best Orc models that GW have ever produced. I can understand not being a fan of the aesthetic, but they are objectively technically excellent sculpts, so calling them "truly awful" is a truly awful take.

Anyway, I'm getting excited for Brets, they can't come soon enough!
   
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 Undead_Love-Machine wrote:
 Taarnak wrote:
 NAVARRO wrote:
Well if its orcs on the starter I don't think they can do a worse job than Kruleboys. Truly awful lot.

And I think Kruleboys are the best Orks/Orcs they have ever done. lol Really not a fan of comedy orks with heads growing from their chests...

I think the Bretonnian and Tomb Kings stuff looks good. I also hope Bretonnians vs Tomb Kings is the way they go for the starter set.


Agreed, the Kruleboyz are the best Orc models that GW have ever produced. I can understand not being a fan of the aesthetic, but they are objectively technically excellent sculpts, so calling them "truly awful" is a truly awful take.

Anyway, I'm getting excited for Brets, they can't come soon enough!


I will call them what I want thank you, Sir. Besides just because a mini is flooded with crappy details which are horrible to individually paint, the faces are not the focal point but rather the shields(fail)! Yeah you call it technically advanced I call them a model Design mess. Looking at the champ sprue its a full figure piece split/sliced in 3 very awkward angles (ridiculous), thats very poor no mater how you want to say this sprue design is good.
Not enjoyable to paint or build and all faces look like sucking on lemons!
Aesthetic was what I was really talking about but you went on a tangent.

   
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 NAVARRO wrote:

I will call them what I want thank you, Sir. Besides just because a mini is flooded with crappy details which are horrible to individually paint, the faces are not the focal point but rather the shields(fail)! Yeah you call it technically advanced I call them a model Design mess. Looking at the champ sprue its a full figure piece split/sliced in 3 very awkward angles (ridiculous), thats very poor no mater how you want to say this sprue design is good.
Not enjoyable to paint or build and all faces look like sucking on lemons!
Aesthetic was what I was really talking about but you went on a tangent.


You speak with such authority when it's subjective. I really enjoyed building the Kruelboy models, the angles for the newer sculpts GW does is to hide joint lines, and it does very well at that. The larger beasts even had logs/planks that covered up the connection points of two larger flat areas to completely conceal the connection point. The mono-pose and "very awkward angles" may not be your cup of tea, but to call them anything but engineering successes is disingenuous, or at the very least naive to the intent of those design decisions.
   
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 Undead_Love-Machine wrote:
 Taarnak wrote:
 NAVARRO wrote:
Well if its orcs on the starter I don't think they can do a worse job than Kruleboys. Truly awful lot.

And I think Kruleboys are the best Orks/Orcs they have ever done. lol Really not a fan of comedy orks with heads growing from their chests...

I think the Bretonnian and Tomb Kings stuff looks good. I also hope Bretonnians vs Tomb Kings is the way they go for the starter set.


Agreed, the Kruleboyz are the best Orc models that GW have ever produced. I can understand not being a fan of the aesthetic, but they are objectively technically excellent sculpts, so calling them "truly awful" is a truly awful take.

Anyway, I'm getting excited for Brets, they can't come soon enough!


We're at the point that we're attempting to correct personal taste, eh?

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 NAVARRO wrote:

I will call them what I want thank you, Sir. Besides just because a mini is flooded with crappy details which are horrible to individually paint, the faces are not the focal point but rather the shields(fail)! Yeah you call it technically advanced I call them a model Design mess. Looking at the champ sprue its a full figure piece split/sliced in 3 very awkward angles (ridiculous), thats very poor no mater how you want to say this sprue design is good.
Not enjoyable to paint or build and all faces look like sucking on lemons!
Aesthetic was what I was really talking about but you went on a tangent.

You can like them, or not, but recognize that your opinion is subjective. Just as mine is, which is what I was getting at.

I hate, hate, hate the aesthetics of the GW Ork/Orc. I like the aesthetics of the Kruleboyz. There was no tangent. We are discussing the same thing.

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Tittliewinks22 wrote:
 NAVARRO wrote:

I will call them what I want thank you, Sir. Besides just because a mini is flooded with crappy details which are horrible to individually paint, the faces are not the focal point but rather the shields(fail)! Yeah you call it technically advanced I call them a model Design mess. Looking at the champ sprue its a full figure piece split/sliced in 3 very awkward angles (ridiculous), thats very poor no mater how you want to say this sprue design is good.
Not enjoyable to paint or build and all faces look like sucking on lemons!
Aesthetic was what I was really talking about but you went on a tangent.


You speak with such authority when it's subjective.


That's it. Rather than them saying "I really didn't like the style that GW chose for the Kruleboys, I much prefered the older style of Orc!" or something similar, instead we get things like "truly awful", "crappy details" "fail!" "design mess"

I get that internet hyperbole is very much a real thing, but I really can't stand the somewhat childish notion that minis that we don't personally like are referred to as trash or similar insulting words.






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 Just Tony wrote:
 Undead_Love-Machine wrote:
 Taarnak wrote:
 NAVARRO wrote:
Well if its orcs on the starter I don't think they can do a worse job than Kruleboys. Truly awful lot.

And I think Kruleboys are the best Orks/Orcs they have ever done. lol Really not a fan of comedy orks with heads growing from their chests...

I think the Bretonnian and Tomb Kings stuff looks good. I also hope Bretonnians vs Tomb Kings is the way they go for the starter set.


Agreed, the Kruleboyz are the best Orc models that GW have ever produced. I can understand not being a fan of the aesthetic, but they are objectively technically excellent sculpts, so calling them "truly awful" is a truly awful take.

Anyway, I'm getting excited for Brets, they can't come soon enough!


We're at the point that we're attempting to correct personal taste, eh?


No, not at all.

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Tittliewinks22 wrote:
 NAVARRO wrote:

I will call them what I want thank you, Sir. Besides just because a mini is flooded with crappy details which are horrible to individually paint, the faces are not the focal point but rather the shields(fail)! Yeah you call it technically advanced I call them a model Design mess. Looking at the champ sprue its a full figure piece split/sliced in 3 very awkward angles (ridiculous), thats very poor no mater how you want to say this sprue design is good.
Not enjoyable to paint or build and all faces look like sucking on lemons!
Aesthetic was what I was really talking about but you went on a tangent.


You speak with such authority when it's subjective. I really enjoyed building the Kruelboy models, the angles for the newer sculpts GW does is to hide joint lines, and it does very well at that. The larger beasts even had logs/planks that covered up the connection points of two larger flat areas to completely conceal the connection point. The mono-pose and "very awkward angles" may not be your cup of tea, but to call them anything but engineering successes is disingenuous, or at the very least naive to the intent of those design decisions.


Excuse me? If it's subjective and Im speaking with such "authority" how come you are patronising me with your "knowledge of design decisions"?
Taste is subjective, design preference is subjective, enjoyment building and painting mono posed overcrowded messy design is subjective...
What's not subjective for me personally is my dislike for these models for the reasons explained... I could care less if they compromise my enjoyment for the sake of hiding joints ( ON TOP OF SHOULDERPADS only worse than that is splitting the head in half). Sprues are sliced and monopose for many reasons not just what you think they are.

   
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 Taarnak wrote:

You can like them, or not, but recognize that your opinion is subjective. Just as mine is, which is what I was inferring.

I hate, hate, hate the aesthetics of the GW Ork/Orc. I like the aesthetics of the Kruleboyz. There was no tangent. We are discussing the same thing.


100% agree. The Kruleboyz are some of the most flavorable orcs GW has made...ever. But then again, I prefer the old Rackham orcs...stooped over citadel aesthetic beefed up and dangerous.

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 Undead_Love-Machine wrote:
Tittliewinks22 wrote:
 NAVARRO wrote:

I will call them what I want thank you, Sir. Besides just because a mini is flooded with crappy details which are horrible to individually paint, the faces are not the focal point but rather the shields(fail)! Yeah you call it technically advanced I call them a model Design mess. Looking at the champ sprue its a full figure piece split/sliced in 3 very awkward angles (ridiculous), thats very poor no mater how you want to say this sprue design is good.
Not enjoyable to paint or build and all faces look like sucking on lemons!
Aesthetic was what I was really talking about but you went on a tangent.


You speak with such authority when it's subjective.


That's it. Rather than them saying "I really didn't like the style that GW chose for the Kruleboys, I much prefered the older style of Orc!" or something similar, instead we get things like "truly awful", "crappy details" "fail!" "design mess"

I get that internet hyperbole is very much a real thing, but I really can't stand the somewhat childish notion that minis that we don't personally like are referred to as trash or similar insulting words.




I insulted the Kruleboys? Dude your sole post is insulting my personal opinion on toys... Just count the adjectives you personally labeled me and look at yourself first.
*disclaimer - No harm intended at the Orruk race called Kruelboys.

   
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I'm not too worried about the possible AoS-ification of ToW.

GW will want to keep those IPs separate and consequently they will likely have different design philosophies. AoS was purpose-built to look and work differently from WHFB, so reversing this course would make little sense to me.

On the other hand, there are some GW-greenlit designs in Total War: Warhammer that are cause for some concern, as are some of the late End Times releases, so it remains to be seen how this turns out.

I'll just say that the recently published renders seem fairly consistent in design with WHFB. Contrary to the above, I can see cities of sigmar becoming a tie-in to ToW Empire design-wise, maybe even as a 1:1 equivalent and stepping stone for people who want to branch out from AoS into ToW. Seraphon and Vampires are largely ready for ToW as they are.

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 NAVARRO wrote:
 Undead_Love-Machine wrote:
Tittliewinks22 wrote:
 NAVARRO wrote:

I will call them what I want thank you, Sir. Besides just because a mini is flooded with crappy details which are horrible to individually paint, the faces are not the focal point but rather the shields(fail)! Yeah you call it technically advanced I call them a model Design mess. Looking at the champ sprue its a full figure piece split/sliced in 3 very awkward angles (ridiculous), thats very poor no mater how you want to say this sprue design is good.
Not enjoyable to paint or build and all faces look like sucking on lemons!
Aesthetic was what I was really talking about but you went on a tangent.


You speak with such authority when it's subjective.


That's it. Rather than them saying "I really didn't like the style that GW chose for the Kruleboys, I much prefered the older style of Orc!" or something similar, instead we get things like "truly awful", "crappy details" "fail!" "design mess"

I get that internet hyperbole is very much a real thing, but I really can't stand the somewhat childish notion that minis that we don't personally like are referred to as trash or similar insulting words.




I insulted the Kruleboys? Dude your sole post is insulting my personal opinion on toys... Just count the adjectives you personally labeled me and look at yourself first.
*disclaimer - No harm intended at the Orruk race called Kruelboys.


No, I'm not attacking your personal taste, I'm saying that I dislike how you word it. I find it (not you) childish.
   
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 Undead_Love-Machine wrote:
 NAVARRO wrote:
 Undead_Love-Machine wrote:
Tittliewinks22 wrote:
 NAVARRO wrote:

I will call them what I want thank you, Sir. Besides just because a mini is flooded with crappy details which are horrible to individually paint, the faces are not the focal point but rather the shields(fail)! Yeah you call it technically advanced I call them a model Design mess. Looking at the champ sprue its a full figure piece split/sliced in 3 very awkward angles (ridiculous), thats very poor no mater how you want to say this sprue design is good.
Not enjoyable to paint or build and all faces look like sucking on lemons!
Aesthetic was what I was really talking about but you went on a tangent.


You speak with such authority when it's subjective.


That's it. Rather than them saying "I really didn't like the style that GW chose for the Kruleboys, I much prefered the older style of Orc!" or something similar, instead we get things like "truly awful", "crappy details" "fail!" "design mess"

I get that internet hyperbole is very much a real thing, but I really can't stand the somewhat childish notion that minis that we don't personally like are referred to as trash or similar insulting words.




I insulted the Kruleboys? Dude your sole post is insulting my personal opinion on toys... Just count the adjectives you personally labeled me and look at yourself first.
*disclaimer - No harm intended at the Orruk race called Kruelboys.


No, I'm not attacking your personal taste, I'm saying that I dislike how you word it. I find it (not you) childish.


Last one for its you getting OT, and you find justifiable and totally OK saying my opinion is awful and addressed childish like while you say it's insulting or feel insulted me describing an orc mini as awful.

   
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 NAVARRO wrote:


Last one for its you getting OT, and you find justifiable and totally OK saying my opinion is awful and addressed childish like while you say it's insulting or feel insulted me describing an orc mini as awful.


No buddy, I'm not saying that your opinion is awful.

I'm saying that there are better ways to word it.

But I totally agree, we are way off topic
   
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Tsagualsa wrote:
 NAVARRO wrote:
Well if its orcs on the starter I don't think they can do a worse job than Kruleboys. Truly awful lot.


I like both the Kruleboys and OBR for their '80/90s fantasy paperback cover pastel-coloured hallucination' aesthetics, they look like they stepped out of a Blanche painting or some Heavy Metal album cover. They are truely 'retro', faux-nostalgic for a past version of themselves that never existed. They look like Warhammer Fantasy Battles would have looked in the 80s if today's technology had existed back then, if that makes any sense.


GW probably wouldn't have survived as long as it has if the Orcs/Tomb Kings/Vampire Counts looked like OBR or Kruleboys let's be real.

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 Taarnak wrote:
 NAVARRO wrote:

I will call them what I want thank you, Sir. Besides just because a mini is flooded with crappy details which are horrible to individually paint, the faces are not the focal point but rather the shields(fail)! Yeah you call it technically advanced I call them a model Design mess. Looking at the champ sprue its a full figure piece split/sliced in 3 very awkward angles (ridiculous), thats very poor no mater how you want to say this sprue design is good.
Not enjoyable to paint or build and all faces look like sucking on lemons!
Aesthetic was what I was really talking about but you went on a tangent.

You can like them, or not, but recognize that your opinion is subjective. Just as mine is, which is what I was getting at.

I hate, hate, hate the aesthetics of the GW Ork/Orc. I like the aesthetics of the Kruleboyz. There was no tangent. We are discussing the same thing.


Tangent was the post I quoted not what you said.
Tangent was me saying I find that Lot of minis awful (initially was talking just how they look) and then tangent was people saying you cant say that because design is an "achievement"...
Yes all personal opinions are subjective no news there.

I do wonder how O&G will be in Old world and I expect them to make Orcs like they used to and not like AoS Kruleboys. I think Old world Orcs may well be the update I was so eagerly waiting for in AoS.

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 BertBert wrote:
I'm not too worried about the possible AoS-ification of ToW.

GW will want to keep those IPs separate and consequently they will likely have different design philosophies. AoS was purpose-built to look and work differently from WHFB, so reversing this course would make little sense to me.

On the other hand, there are some GW-greenlit designs in Total War: Warhammer that are cause for some concern, as are some of the late End Times releases, so it remains to be seen how this turns out.

I'll just say that the recently published renders seem fairly consistent in design with WHFB. Contrary to the above, I can see cities of sigmar becoming a tie-in to ToW Empire design-wise, maybe even as a 1:1 equivalent and stepping stone for people who want to branch out from AoS into ToW. Seraphon and Vampires are largely ready for ToW as they are.



What TW:W designs are you referring to?

I don't think there's any reason to be concerned about it, really. Model-wise perhaps we'll get some of the over-the-top poses and such, but in terms of aesthetics the stuff shown this week and the artwork from a while back suggests they're not going to change the core look of anything to a significant degree.
   
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Probably referring to the flinging that happened here when the kislev concept art was shown and a loud portion were shouting about it looking OTT/flanderized for fantasy. I rather liked them myself.


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 BertBert wrote:
I'm not too worried about the possible AoS-ification of ToW.

GW will want to keep those IPs separate and consequently they will likely have different design philosophies. AoS was purpose-built to look and work differently from WHFB, so reversing this course would make little sense to me.

On the other hand, there are some GW-greenlit designs in Total War: Warhammer that are cause for some concern, as are some of the late End Times releases, so it remains to be seen how this turns out.

I'll just say that the recently published renders seem fairly consistent in design with WHFB. Contrary to the above, I can see cities of sigmar becoming a tie-in to ToW Empire design-wise, maybe even as a 1:1 equivalent and stepping stone for people who want to branch out from AoS into ToW. Seraphon and Vampires are largely ready for ToW as they are.



I don't really see that. The Seraphon in particular you can tell haven't been designed with ranking in mind. The Saurus especially with outstretched arms and wide stances. The cities stuff as well really shares little design cues from empire if you actually compare what has been seen.

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 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Probably referring to the flinging that happened here when the kislev concept art was shown and a loud portion were shouting about it looking OTT/flanderized for fantasy. I rather liked them myself.


I assumed it was that but that stuff is in-line with how Kislev has been depicted before.
   
 
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