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Hey did anyone hear any thing about phyre cats at the Nova? I know they got taken back to be redone but that what - year ago or more?

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I'll guess this is a 'new way to play', multiple gangs teaming up against this new force of scary stuff trying to invade the hive by the back door

 
   
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Got my Enforcers and they are fun little guys. Anyone tried arm swaps? Using mine as Arbites by way of Krieg and I want to give them meltas and flamers.

 
   
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I'll be adding in some Meltas and sniper rifles to mine. Hope we can get the storm shields and power mauls, for riot control in the weapons sets. New Bounty Hunters- Apollus Kage & Krotus Hark are now out. No information on the phyre cats just yet, though. I wonder what the Recruits are going to look like?

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 Grot 6 wrote:
Have you read the books yet? The Book of Peril , and the Book of Judgement both have like 10 more factional sets and the other single characters that have to be produced first.

Let me just go through just a a few here...
Starting with your "Corpsegrinder "Cult"... it's not a cult, its a Guild.

Have you read the book?

Let me quote from page 80:

REDEMPTIONIST BACKERS(TWOOFCLUBS)
The Cult of the Redemption is not a forgiving creed and its most fanatical supporters often funnel money and equipment to those who are going to pursue its goals.
Linked Rackets: Promethium Guild Bond, Witch Seeking.
RACKETBOONS
Special: Helot Cult, Genestealer Cult and Corpse Grinder Cult gangs may never claim this Racket. If they gain control of it, it becomes dormant until claimed by a different type of gang."

I don't think it makes sense specifying that certain guilds cannot have certain rackets. Unless this is another of the countless errors in this book?

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Baxx wrote:
 Grot 6 wrote:
Have you read the books yet? The Book of Peril , and the Book of Judgement both have like 10 more factional sets and the other single characters that have to be produced first.

Let me just go through just a a few here...
Starting with your "Corpsegrinder "Cult"... it's not a cult, its a Guild.

Have you read the book?

Let me quote from page 80:

REDEMPTIONIST BACKERS(TWOOFCLUBS)
The Cult of the Redemption is not a forgiving creed and its most fanatical supporters often funnel money and equipment to those who are going to pursue its goals.
Linked Rackets: Promethium Guild Bond, Witch Seeking.
RACKETBOONS
Special: Helot Cult, Genestealer Cult and Corpse Grinder Cult gangs may never claim this Racket. If they gain control of it, it becomes dormant until claimed by a different type of gang."

I don't think it makes sense specifying that certain guilds cannot have certain rackets. Unless this is another of the countless errors in this book?


What are you on about? I talked about nearly 20 more additional groups, and you are all over the map just like the rest of your posts here have been. These books are bound to have mistakes, look at how much is in each one. Name me one game that ever came out of the gate satisfying everyone?

Maybe you have some information on how that would work, but I'm fine with … you know... If you find an issue, make a note, make a decision local, and call it a day. And since you are being a nitpick, go back and read the actual posts, son. I didn't say anything about errors in the book, my subject of the conversation was additional units/ groups within the books that are yet to come out as figures.

Since when would a Genestealer cult work with Cawdor, by the way?

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 Grot 6 wrote:

What are you on about? I talked about nearly 20 more additional groups, and you are all over the map just like the rest of your posts here have been. These books are bound to have mistakes, look at how much is in each one. Name me one game that ever came out of the gate satisfying everyone?

Maybe you have some information on how that would work, but I'm fine with … you know... If you find an issue, make a note, make a decision local, and call it a day. And since you are being a nitpick, go back and read the actual posts, son. I didn't say anything about errors in the book, my subject of the conversation was additional units/ groups within the books that are yet to come out as figures.

Since when would a Genestealer cult work with Cawdor, by the way?

Is corpsegrinder cult a cult or a guild?

Genestealer cult is a cult, not a guild. I don't see how that have any relevance? It has no impact to the argument I made.

And btw, this discussion is quite hostile!

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Its stated as a Guild. One of many.

The group that joins the gang is called a Corpse Harvesting Party. No cult, no gang( Just yet.)

Book of Peril, Page 80 is a Manufactorum Raid Scenario.



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We'll find out soon enough eh.

I don't get what's the confuzzlement is here tbh.

Corpse Guild.

Corpsegrinder Cult.

Two distinct things, no?

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Necromunda revised hardback rulebook, c. p37 (on the pdf), covering the background fluff of M40, specifically mentions the Corpse Grinder cults specifically dedicated to Khorne and fuelled by pure cannibalism. Makes sense that the next book might cover them, print GSC proper, under the premise of exploring alternate hives. Perhaps even with a couple of new bad zone peril tilesets, covering Secundus and Arcos...
   
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 Yodhrin wrote:
I don't get what's the confuzzlement is here tbh.

Corpse Guild.

Corpsegrinder Cult.

Two distinct things, no?


Yeah, they’re different things.

This is the Corpse Guild:


Corpsegrinder Cult is apparently some kind of Khornate Cult.
   
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 Yodhrin wrote:
I don't get what's the confuzzlement is here tbh.

Corpse Guild.

Corpsegrinder Cult.

Two distinct things, no?
Since N17's release, Baxx appears to be under the impression that something having a slightly different name makes it not only a different entity, but also one that completely replaces the other.

It's why he thinks that the Book of Judgement's rules for pacts completely override the Book of Peril's rules, even though they don't.

   
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What is possibly confusing things is that the Corpse Guild entry in the Book of Peril refers to the guild handing corpses over to the corpse grinders for processing.

I personally interpreted that to mean the guild has a go-to House-equivalent that is not officially part of the Guild for legal reasons, like the Iron Guild and the Orlocks. This makes the guild “neutral” and stops the grinders gaining too much power.

How this relates to cults is a mystery at this time but I suspect something like the corpse grinder job/lifestyle (same thing on Necromunda) having a negative impact on their sanity, what with no-one else wanting much to do with them on a personal level, so they end up insular and isolated and cultish. Then add the right push and they fall right off the wagon into chaos worship, maybe.

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 H.B.M.C. wrote:

It's why he thinks that the Book of Judgement's rules for pacts completely override the Book of Peril's rules, even though they don't.

Wasn't aware I thought such a thing. I was a bit hasty on my judgement, but the starting alliance seems to be replaced. You're correct that the rest is add-on.


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 Grot 6 wrote:

What are you on about? I talked about nearly 20 more additional groups, and you are all over the map just like the rest of your posts here have been. These books are bound to have mistakes, look at how much is in each one. Name me one game that ever came out of the gate satisfying everyone?

Maybe you have some information on how that would work, but I'm fine with … you know... If you find an issue, make a note, make a decision local, and call it a day. And since you are being a nitpick, go back and read the actual posts, son. I didn't say anything about errors in the book, my subject of the conversation was additional units/ groups within the books that are yet to come out as figures.

Since when would a Genestealer cult work with Cawdor, by the way?

I thought my quote should clearly show what I'm on about. The rules specify a list of gangs that cannot have a racket. One of those gangs are the corpse grinder cult. If you insist on this being a guild, why should the rules specify that a guild cannot have a racket? So far, no guilds (corpse or otherwise) can have any rackets. Does that makes sense to you? I can't name a single game with as many mistakes as this one. But what does that got to do with satisfaction? I'm satisfied with the game, just not the quality.

I'm also fine when playing the game, to make a decision or roll off. But we're not playing a game here, we're discussion new stuff for Necromunda. I'm much more fine with rules that don't require house ruling, rules that have actually been tested first, rules that aren't broken out of the box. Are you, father? I didn't say you said anything about the errors in the book.

And again, Genestealer and Cawdor are completely irrelevant in the quote.

Interesting to see how personal this discussion can become at times.

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 Grot 6 wrote:
Have you read the books yet? The Book of Peril , and the Book of ... Starting with your "Corpsegrinder "Cult"... it's not a cult, its a Guild.


No. You should try following your own advice and read the books...
   
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Scotland, but nowhere near my rulebook

That actually seems like quite an amount of cool stuff the book of judgement, and probably more up my street than being in thrall to the guilds....
   
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https://spikeybits.com/2019/09/qa-session-reveals-more-on-gw-new-fall-releases.html

Explore cults and chaos in the underhive
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Can anyone confirm that this was said?

if so, the theory that it is a new box with 2 gangs is quite possible



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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Eeewwwww! Spikeybits!

Anyone got a link to a different news provider?


It come in November so we don't have to wait that long for a preview.
   
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Chopstick wrote:
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Eeewwwww! Spikeybits!

Anyone got a link to a different news provider?


It come in November so we don't have to wait that long for a preview.


not soon enough

it also seems that there are no seminars until the beginning of November ..
   
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Bear in mind that at a previous open daynor some such (one or two before last perhaps..)
They said rather than doing the Outland stuff they were likely to look at new stuff for the next gangs, which was also when they showed the guild stuff originally.
Just in case anyone is still thinking Ratskins or whatever else we used to have..
   
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 Yodhrin wrote:
I don't get what's the confuzzlement is here tbh.

Corpse Guild.

Corpsegrinder Cult.

Two distinct things, no?


The confusion comes from that guy in thinking I was talking about the corpsegrinders as a cult in the new books. THEY HAVEN'T COME OUT YET, and he was thinking they were addressed in the two new books.

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Grot 6: Chill.
Read ”The Book of Judgement”, page 80, quote:
”Helot Cult, Genestealer Cult and *Corpse Grinder Cult* gangs may never...”
I.e. Corpsegrinders are (will be) a CULT (and yes, the Corpse Guild is a guild).

Please just accept the fact that Baxx was/is right - and also consider to apologize for your childish and hostile outbreaks.
   
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 kendoka wrote:
Grot 6: Chill.
Read ”The Book of Judgement”, page 80, quote:
”Helot Cult, Genestealer Cult and *Corpse Grinder Cult* gangs may never...”
I.e. Corpsegrinders are (will be) a CULT (and yes, the Corpse Guild is a guild).

Please just accept the fact that Baxx was/is right - and also consider to apologize for your childish and hostile outbreaks.


SMH.

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I'm not saying "Corpse" cannot be a future gang. But it certainly is described as a "Guild" in the new books. Didn't say anything about what others said about one or the other, just pointed out the fact that Corsegrinder Cult is mentioned in the new book.

This means that we may or may not see a corpse (grinder) cult gang in the future. We already have the rules for corpse guild. They may or may not be related, but certainly a guild has distinct differences from a (cult) gang.

This is a less friendly forum to discuss in it seems.

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Baxx wrote:
I'm not saying "Corpse" cannot be a future gang. But it certainly is described as a "Guild" in the new books. Didn't say anything about what others said about one or the other, just pointed out the fact that Corsegrinder Cult is mentioned in the new book.

This means that we may or may not see a corpse (grinder) cult gang in the future. We already have the rules for corpse guild. They may or may not be related, but certainly a guild has distinct differences from a (cult) gang.

This is a less friendly forum to discuss in it seems.


Dude...

This is a fine forum.

The fact is that THIS is a future gang, it is more then likely coming out in November, seeing as we already had a teaser of what is coming in Uprising. I don't think I made that entirely clear. Especially when I get some other git besides you trying to step in and be cute with me.

When whatever Mod decided to remove my post, I had to go back at least 3 times and reread this thread from my information till now. The error comes in me not pointing out with a big neon sign- YES THEY ARE GOING TO BE A FUTURE GANG!

In the two books, ( BOOK OF JUDGMENT, BOOK OF PERIL) I pulled the info from, they didn't talk about them as included yet, and information already out there calls for them coming out in a future book.

I'd like to just conclude in apologizing to you if the posts in the thread were not entirely clear. I see where the error is when I didn't point it out exactly that they ARE going to be a future gang and only hinted it.



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Scotland, but nowhere near my rulebook

Anyone got any suggestions about Allying with the Imperial House which is mentioned several times in the Book of Crime?
   
 
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