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The suitcase full of drugs from Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas.

And they're going to shoot through the Marine armor with their regular machine guns?

Yeah, easily. Cosidering that armor has a 1 in 3 chance of interepting a bb round.

Mobile Infantry (From the book). They pretty much ARE Space Marines...

Hmmm....Aliens.

But they're just tyranids.

PREDATORS!

Longcat can take down ALL Space Marines.

CHAS from the Roughneck Chronicles

A dragonfly.
They can fly so fast they can burst through your head and not feel a thing. So, if he forgets a helmet it could hit his brain with a little struggle. No jokes.

felixthecat345 wrote:A dragonfly.
They can fly so fast they can burst through your head and not feel a thing. So, if he forgets a helmet it could hit his brain with a little struggle. No jokes.

Uuummmm... No. Just, No. Unless this Dragonfly was the size of a .308 round (including casing) and had an exoskeleton made of pure awesome, your skull is going to win against an airborne insect.

metallifan wrote:

felixthecat345 wrote:A dragonfly.
They can fly so fast they can burst through your head and not feel a thing. So, if he forgets a helmet it could hit his brain with a little struggle. No jokes.

Uuummmm... No. Just, No. Unless this Dragonfly was the size of a .308 round (including casing) and had an exoskeleton made of pure awesome, your skull is going to win against an airborne insect.

Would a dragonfly the size of a .308 round (Including casing) with an exoskeleton of pure awesome defeat a space marine?

Corennus wrote:Hmmm....Aliens.

But they're just tyranids.

PREDATORS!

They're just Lictors.

Metabaron

Necroman wrote:
Would a dragonfly the size of a .308 round (Including casing) with an exoskeleton of pure awesome defeat a space marine?

Well yea, it's exoskeleton is made of Pure Awesome. So is Sly Marbo, and he can kill marines easily enough. Thus, logic dictates that if Sly Marbo is made of Pure Awesome, and he kills Space Marines, then a Dragonfly made of Pure Awesome could as well.

metallifan wrote:

Necroman wrote:
Would a dragonfly the size of a .308 round (Including casing) with an exoskeleton of pure awesome defeat a space marine?

Well yea, it's exoskeleton is made of Pure Awesome. So is Sly Marbo, and he can kill marines easily enough. Thus, logic dictates that if Sly Marbo is made of Pure Awesome, and he kills Space Marines, then a Dragonfly made of Pure Awesome could as well.

True.

But if pure awesome alone could defeat Space Marines, wouldn't Orks always win?

They do, they just don't have the time

S_P

metallifan wrote:

felixthecat345 wrote:A dragonfly.
They can fly so fast they can burst through your head and not feel a thing. So, if he forgets a helmet it could hit his brain with a little struggle. No jokes.

Uuummmm... No. Just, No. Unless this Dragonfly was the size of a .308 round (including casing) and had an exoskeleton made of pure awesome, your skull is going to win against an airborne insect.

You just described every dragonfly in exitence...

Yea. The Orks would - if they could devote more time to each WAAAAAGH!, but the problem is "'dere's so many 'Umies ter krump, an' so litt'el time! So da' boyz gotzta make due wif' what 'dey can get!"

metallifan wrote:

felixthecat345 wrote:A dragonfly.
They can fly so fast they can burst through your head and not feel a thing. So, if he forgets a helmet it could hit his brain with a little struggle. No jokes.

Uuummmm... No. Just, No. Unless this Dragonfly was the size of a .308 round (including casing) and had an exoskeleton made of pure awesome, your skull is going to win against an airborne insect.

you know a dragonfly from the Universe of 40k could take one down......easy.......everything is made of pure awesome in the World of 40k.

Krellnus wrote:

Uuummmm... No. Just, No. Unless this Dragonfly was the size of a .308 round (including casing) and had an exoskeleton made of pure awesome, your skull is going to win against an airborne insect.

You just described every dragonfly in exitence...

And this is why people die to dragonflies piercing their skulls at 1000 feet per second.


what

Doom 3 hellknight.
In 40k terms, it would be ws7 bs4 st8 t8 w5 i5 a3 ld10 and armed with crushing claws (+1 attack already included) and teeth (+1 strength +1 attack already included) and fireball (12" range plascannon)

Well, spiderman would be stuffed, Batman probably as well because he has no powers... so form this, i can conclude. The only thing capable of taking out a SM is... An intense case of Tateworm. Its the only thing logically possible.

Commissar NIkev wrote:

metallifan wrote:

felixthecat345 wrote:A dragonfly.
They can fly so fast they can burst through your head and not feel a thing. So, if he forgets a helmet it could hit his brain with a little struggle. No jokes.

Uuummmm... No. Just, No. Unless this Dragonfly was the size of a .308 round (including casing) and had an exoskeleton made of pure awesome, your skull is going to win against an airborne insect.

you know a dragonfly from the Universe of 40k could take one down......easy.......everything is made of pure awesome in the World of 40k.

Not really, under Jervis it's supermarines, if it was under Jes Goodwin, then everthing would suck...

Necroman wrote:But if pure awesome alone could defeat Space Marines, wouldn't Orks always win?

No. Orks are 96% pure fail and 4% ridiculous bs.

Sorry, I fething HATE Orks - stupidest race in 40k. I won't go into details as to why, but if you must know go read my WIP thread, it's in there somewhere

ps Orks are only good for their silly smiley faces

Krellnus wrote:
Not really, under Jervis it's supermarines, if it was under Jes Goodwin, then everthing would suck...

And if it was Matt Ward....

"DEEP STRIKING LAND RAIDERS! HUUUUUUUURRRR!"

I almost wonder is "Matt Ward" is another pen name for C.S. Goto

The macron from quake 4 (ws9 bs5 s10 t10 w8 a6 i5 w/ 2 plascannons + power weapons) could take down a marine, easy. As could a mancubus (ws4 bs 5 s6 t9 w6 a1 i2 ld10 w/ duo missile launchers), a vagery (ws7 bs5 s7 t7 w6 a4 i5 ld10), a bruiser (ws6 bs5 s10 t8 w5 a3 i5 ld10 w/ 2 MRPs), sgt Kelly (ws9 bs5 s10 t10 w7 aD6 i3 ld10 w/ a plascannon with large blast), the cyberdemon (bio titan ws10 bs5 strength Destroyer t10 w15 attacks however many fit under his foot w/ 1 s10 ap3 large blast 60" range ML) and the boss at the end of ressurection of evil ( ws10 bs5 s8 t9 w7 a5 i7 ld10 w/ power weapons, wings, a s7 ap1 blast heavy 3 weapon, a s7 ap3 template weapon and can call down meteor shower (counts as orbital bonboanbardlements) once every two turns) from the Doom series could all take down a SM . There pretty badass. I even gave them 40k stats!

metallifan wrote:

Krellnus wrote:
Not really, under Jervis it's supermarines, if it was under Jes Goodwin, then everthing would suck...

And if it was Matt Ward....

"DEEP STRIKING LAND RAIDERS! HUUUUUUUURRRR!"

I almost wonder is "Matt Ward" is another pen name for C.S. Goto

This made me lol. sigged.

Nuruhuine wrote:

Necroman wrote:But if pure awesome alone could defeat Space Marines, wouldn't Orks always win?

No. Orks are 96% pure fail and 4% ridiculous bs.

Sorry, I fething HATE Orks - stupidest race in 40k. I won't go into details as to why, but if you must know go read my WIP thread, it's in there somewhere

ps Orks are only good for their silly smiley faces

I agree, it was kind of ridiculous to include a race like that who would clearly be massacred by guns, and tbh the whole fluff of them is dumb. Plus, imagine 100 ork boyz are charging at you from 1km away. You have three hbs. They have short ranged sluggas and choppas. The hbs would clearly win, coz there range is probably about 5 km at least to compete with modern .50 cal mgs. Plus rapid fire, the impossibility of missing and powerful rounds.

felixthecat345 wrote:

Nuruhuine wrote:

Necroman wrote:But if pure awesome alone could defeat Space Marines, wouldn't Orks always win?

No. Orks are 96% pure fail and 4% ridiculous bs.

Sorry, I fething HATE Orks - stupidest race in 40k. I won't go into details as to why, but if you must know go read my WIP thread, it's in there somewhere

ps Orks are only good for their silly smiley faces

I agree, it was kind of ridiculous to include a race like that who would clearly be massacred by guns, and tbh the whole fluff of them is dumb. Plus, imagine 100 ork boyz are charging at you from 1km away. You have three hbs. They have short ranged sluggas and choppas. The hbs would clearly win, coz there range is probably about 5 km at least to compete with modern .50 cal mgs. Plus rapid fire, the impossibility of missing and powerful rounds.

But when is there ever just 100 boyz charging you? Its always at least 1000.....and you'll eventually run out of ammo

Pretty much any setting that has 'real' robust AI and/or nanotechnology would find pretty much anything in the 40k universe to be a light snack at best.

The one that jumps to mind the most is Neal Asher's Polity.

felixthecat345 wrote:

Nuruhuine wrote:

Necroman wrote:But if pure awesome alone could defeat Space Marines, wouldn't Orks always win?

No. Orks are 96% pure fail and 4% ridiculous bs.

Sorry, I fething HATE Orks - stupidest race in 40k. I won't go into details as to why, but if you must know go read my WIP thread, it's in there somewhere

ps Orks are only good for their silly smiley faces

I agree, it was kind of ridiculous to include a race like that who would clearly be massacred by guns, and tbh the whole fluff of them is dumb. Plus, imagine 100 ork boyz are charging at you from 1km away. You have three hbs. They have short ranged sluggas and choppas. The hbs would clearly win, coz there range is probably about 5 km at least to compete with modern .50 cal mgs. Plus rapid fire, the impossibility of missing and powerful rounds.

Exactly. And be it 100 Orks or 1000, you bring enough ammo and guns to bare and it's green goo for everyone. Plus, at the level of developement the Imperium is at, and the number of Orks per infested planet, plus the sheer size of the Galaxy (thus number of planets), Orks would probably very rarely see Humans in any form of ground combat. The Imperium would (realisticly) sit back and bombard them from orbit until it was "clean" enough to send in boots, or they'd simply Exterminatus the surface - Either way no more Orks. Also, Orks simply getting into space makes me cringe. Look at *REAL* humans today, we're highly organized, well educated and all the things the Orks AREN'T and we still have a tendency to botch our space programs (Beagle, Challanger and Columbia, Skylab early deorbiting, canceling the shuttle program....). Orks are about on-par with a Neianderthal for intelligence, and they sure as hell didn't put boots on the Moon..... Orks = Fail. Orks = We needed something for the SM's to shoot, and often. Orks = No everybody wanted to play Chaos


OT: Vesta. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4_Vesta

Frazzled wrote:mobile infantry trooper from starship troopers (book not crappy movies). Flamers and nukes oh my!

True Statement

Orks are able to do a lot of things that technologically wouldn't be feasible because of the WAAAAUUUUUGGGGHHH!!!! psychic energy. Like flying fighta bombas in space.

I wonder how Magic the Gathering would do against Warhammer 40k; Planeswalkers are absurdly powerful (Like Demonhost or C'tan powerful) in the older fiction, but are much weaker after the mending. Space travel typically isn't achieved, but dimensional travel is. Then you have things like Yawgmoth (Giant cloud that kills things and covers a quarter of a planet) and the Eldrazi (Think C'tan who devour the existence of small universes).

A pre-mending Planeswalker would demolish a Space Marine unless the Space Marine knew his or her weakness (Scramble the brains continuously).