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that wrack has a hex rifle.

Foo wrote:Yeah, I agree. The Haemis can be taken 3 per HQ choice. It's kind of silly you might end up with six little freaks in their Jesus Christ pose.

I guess you could put them on something like this for even more flavour!

I think the models are cool, and I do think that Dark Eldar were due a good solid release lineup....but for feths sake, I am tired of all the new stuff being Dark Eldar. Where are the missing Nid models!

Jburch wrote:I think the models are cool, and I do think that Dark Eldar were due a good solid release lineup....but for feths sake, I am tired of all the new stuff being Dark Eldar. Where are the missing Nid models!

Dark Eldar players were sick of a decade without anything. Tyranids had a lot in that decade and the DE had nothing. They are just trying to catch them up. Of course I keep hearing rumors of a Tyranid second wave this fall, so keep your fingers crossed.

More pictures of the Razorwing (because I couldn't find these in the thread).
Available for £25.50 on the 18th of June.

Haemonculus: I like it, pretty solid, just like the pick in the book. Though, I don't know if its just me, does anyone else think the painting looks kinda. . .weird? I can almost see the lack of quality of the model, in the paint job. They just don't look as clean to me.

Wracks: Cool singular mini, but I can't see them looking cool in a unit. They would be sooooOOOOoooo boring. "Look! Look! We're casually walking everywhere. . .and. . .and. . .uhhhhh. . .Brandishing our weapons in a threatening manner!. . .uhhhhh. . .yeah. . .Ummmm. . .Yay! Go, go, Finecast!" But, I'm not paying $66 bucks to field a full unit of them.

Grotesques: Total, utter, infallible, complete, in totality, mind numbingly, CRAP!!!!! TERRIBLE!!!!!! AWFUL!!!!!! GARBAGE!!!!!! Nice single pose mini for $33 bucks. *LMFAO* ROFLS ROFLS ROFLS ROFLS!!!!!!!!!!!! I think I'd rather bash my face into the wall than EVER buy that model.

lords2001 wrote:You know, my dreams of a dark eldar army are dying. I said I'd wait until I saw all the releases before I jumped in. What a failure that was.

Aww dont give up your dream , just use these! :
They are same size and only $6 each?

Hmm i wonder where GW copied the helmet from !

Why did they give the new wrack model a lizardmen close combat weapon?

To the poster above: The grotesque is $20.75, not $33 . At least, the flag next to your username is US, not Can...

Personally, I have to echo kronk, Mr Mystery, and others in this thread- these minis look great. Maybe not as fantastic as the other DE releases, but I'm pretty excited about them.

Why? I would only ever field a single unit of Grotesques (and let's be honest- they're pricey points-wise, who is going to be fielding more?) and probably 3 small units of wracks in venoms. So, these fit the bill perfectly.

I like them... and yes, the Wracks are menacing, and could look good next to all the other super-dynamic models in the DE range. It adds contrast...

I wonder if they put their feet so close together to distinguish them from the pose of the mandrakes, who all look like they're doing squats

Wracks are ok, Razorwing is very good, and the Grotesque and Haemonculus are garbage. I might pick up a Razorwing or two at some point, but I'm glad I already converted Haemonculi, 30 wracks, and a unit of grotesques... OUT OF PLASTIC.

RiTides, not everyone plays MSU wracks...poor coven players.

Haemy looks dumb (pose), wracks look meh. Somehow they look better together. Liquifier wrack looks good, but a SPIKED CLUB?!

Grotesques are a real fail at just one pose.

Crypt ghoul torso and flagellant legs with the DE reaver helmet blows these wracks away. I may convert some that way after all.

I like them, after peering them over a bit. They're all different, but still horribly boring.

Wracks... Why the gak would I want to take a splinter pistol or a hex rifle on WRACKS? On a Haemonculi, sure, but not on wracks.

Grotesque is nice. Huge model, and not THAT bad of a pose. Lots of cool things to paint.

Haemonculi... Horrible. Sold in four components, which means that either the Head (which is awful) or some of the arms don't come off. I'm disgusted with the hammy, really. I couldn't imagine a worse model. I think I'll find some fantasy model to meet the need.

Razorwing.... I'm speechless. Amazing.

Come on, show us the voidraven already!

AesSedai wrote:RiTides, not everyone plays MSU wracks...poor coven players.

Very fair point... I agree that given the price it is extremely cost-prohibitive, not to mention pose-prohibitive, to use these models in multiple large units :-/

But for those of us who just want a few, I think they're fantastic.

I mean, look at this:



"Come fething get some..." Seriously.

Not until next year jk. Hopefully by the end of the summer.

Boo...

I mean it, though- it's the general anti-GW feeling of late that has these models being panned so bad.

They're expensive, there's little variety on the pose of the wracks and only one grotesque pose- but the models are good! I also like the Haemonculus... not sure what people's problems with it are, given it's almost identical to the book picture from what I remember.

Give 'em a chance, and all that...

I like the Wracks, I'm slowly coming round to the Haemonculus (though will want to see what can be done to convert him, I wouldn't want to take 3 of the same mini for 1 HQ choice) but I'm disappointed by the Grotesque - why sell a single miniature for £12 or whatever it is when you HAVE to take a minimum of 3 per unit? They're not good looking enough to justify spending that much on multiple models that look exactly the same except for the choice of weapon that they carry. I can't see why GW didn't release these as MPK's ala Wyches / Warriors etc - they'll sell but would sell more as bigger box sets with better value and more to them


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Btw, that hexrifle on the chief wrack is NUTS!!!!!!!


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Btw, that hexrifle on the chief wrack is NUTS!!!!!!!

LunaHound wrote:
Hmm i wonder where GW copied the helmet from !

roman gladiators?

I like the wracks. I dislike the "conga"-otesque. The pose looks too much like he is dancing and the waste is too small for my likes. It has nothing to do with GW's inane marketing policy.

I don't want to be a total downer, but how many times have we seen kits like this get put on Advanced Order for one price, at around the time of the annual increase? And then when released they were somehow also affected by an increase that happened while they were still on advanced order. I would not be surprised if they don't make it to launch with that price tag.

By the way the two I can think of are the Land Raider Crusader (announced and pre-ordered at 45.00, released at ~52.50), and the Valkyrie (announced at 50.00, released at 57.00). Though I am certain it has happened more often. At least kits that were released just this year like the Stormraven don't appear to be going up this time.

RiTides wrote:

AesSedai wrote:RiTides, not everyone plays MSU wracks...poor coven players.

Very fair point... I agree that given the price it is extremely cost-prohibitive, not to mention pose-prohibitive, to use these models in multiple large units :-/

But for those of us who just want a few, I think they're fantastic.

I mean, look at this:



"Come fething get some..." Seriously.

i agree - i generally like the Wrack models, and though i am dismayed that they are quite SO static, and all of them are in basically the exact same pose, the pose would work for a guard of some character. but, with DE, you're more likely going to be speeding at your enemy one way or another (Venom, Raider, WWP + moving and running), and so the standing straight and tall pose seems pretty unusual. my guess is that the sculptor (who did these?) didn't have the skills to make such intricate skirt-looking clothing look good in a more dynamic pose, and made them so static to better do the detail of the clothing/armor. i have converted some Mandrakes to be my Wracks, since i really really like the hakama they are wearing.

the Grotesques, on the other hand, are a train wreck. a bit more dynamic (which is good, these brutes also shouldn't be just sitting there) but even more mono-pose than the Wracks! and the fact that the growths/tech-parts built into/growing from their backs are larger than their actual torso is a design blunder of staggering proportions. i know that it reflects the art in the codex, but in my opinion that picture fails for exactly the same reason.

but the Razorwing is just fantastic. big, BIG props to the sculptor who executed that one. i might get a second one to be a Voidraven, if no Voidraven release is forthcoming, and just alter it a little bit here and there to differentiate it from the Razorwing. i cannot even really think of anything at all to nit-pick with the design. one of the most flawless looks i've seen from GW in a while. of course, it could be difficult to build or have some other flaw that isn't clear from the pic, but with the ease and crispness that the new Raider set goes together, i am optimistic that there won't be any problems.

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LunaHound wrote:

lords2001 wrote:You know, my dreams of a dark eldar army are dying. I said I'd wait until I saw all the releases before I jumped in. What a failure that was.

Aww dont give up your dream , just use these! :
They are same size and only $6 each?

Hmm i wonder where GW copied the helmet from !

BTW, what are these models in this pic? i really like them. i was thinking Cryx at first, but the base doesn't look like a PP one to me (though i wouldn't really know, having never bought anything from them before).

For some reason, I don't really like the Razorwing... but then again, I don't like Raiders either, so maybe it's just the big DE vehicles aesthetic that doesn't work for me.

The Razorwing just seems too G.I. Joe / Cobra Commander for me . Most 40k tanks do, but this one especially...

Yes! The Groteque's clearly doing a song and dance number.

RiTides wrote:For some reason, I don't really like the Razorwing... but then again, I don't like Raiders either, so maybe it's just the big DE vehicles aesthetic that doesn't work for me.

The Razorwing just seems too G.I. Joe / Cobra Commander for me . Most 40k tanks do, but this one especially...

Yeah, I think the top shell is a little too inelegant, for lack of a better word. It doesn't look bad, it just doesn't quite fit the raider esthetic for me. It looks like the mini-jet that was attached to that giant cobra raven, or whatever it was called (man that was a long time ago).

keep in mind the haemy,wracks and grots are all finecast, wich is tons easier to convert then pewter. it should be no problem to clip off unwanted arms or weapons and add new ones from whatever other models you want. im thinking about kitbashing together a grotesque and a talos kit, since they look fairly close size wise.

otherwise everything else looks sweet!

Well I'm really impressed with the two DE releases this month.

I really like the Razorwing and will be ordering three to use as Voidravens.

The Haemonculus is okay, but I'll probably just make mine from bits from the Wrack kit and wych and warrior kits.

The Wracks are fabulous and priced okay.

The Grotesque is a nice sculpt. It's too pricey for me though, and there is only one sculpt so I'll be sourcing my grotesques elsewhere.

I'm excited to be able to do a full-on coven army now, filled with Haemonculi, wracks, grotesques, and pain engines. It should be a nice change from my hybrid wych/kabal list.

The Haemonculus looks like he wants a hug. I don't get why his two upper arms are stretched out completely straight like that. It's not completely horrible though, and I bet you can stick some wrack bits on him.

catharsix wrote:


BTW, what are these models in this pic? i really like them. i was thinking Cryx at first, but the base doesn't look like a PP one to me (though i wouldn't really know, having never bought anything from them before).

asimo77 wrote:The Haemonculus looks like he wants a hug. I don't get why his two upper arms are stretched out completely straight like that. It's not completely horrible though, and I bet you can stick some wrack bits on him.

Its standard "floating down to kill you" stance, or maybe yoga. Wait wait, its the Haemonculus zumba.

One of those wracks has TWO HEADS!!! Awesome!!!