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Kaliber wrote:It was a joke

So is the Storm Talon!

*rim shot*

Thank you, thank you! I'm here all week!

insaniak wrote:These though are just world war 2 planes with teeth stuck on the front. Yes, the WW2 plane aesthetic if established, but it needs to be orkified to really work. These are just lazy designs compared to the rest of the range.

I'm hard pressed to identify a WW2 plane that looks anything like these, except maybe an ME 262. As I said in my previous post, they are based on a well-established 'look' for Ork flyers, which is based on Korean War era jets, only with more retro features. As a long-time Ork player, I am pretty happy with them. Okay, maybe they could have had much bigger rivets and more 'junk', but you can always add that. I think a lot of criticism of GW models these days ignores this - their kits are just the basis for doing what you want. Although in the case of the Stormtalon I'd be struggling to come up with anything that could fix such a bizarre design.

H.B.M.C. wrote:

Kaliber wrote:It was a joke

So is the Storm Talon!

*rim shot*

Thank you, thank you! I'm here all week!

*Slow Clap*
Anyone?

Been waiting 19 years for the plastic Ork plane kit and we got multiple options?, not disappointed. Def Skwadren oi!

Like the orc, hate the marine, scared of the necron!

Ouze wrote:

Kaliber wrote:The Stormtalon reminds me of a bumble bee, defying physics, able to fly with it's tiny tiny wings. I picture it flying around in tiny circles off by itself.

Nothing defies physics; Bumblebess are utterly capable of flight and the rest is an urban legend.

Awesome quote there!

If I had room, I'd sig it!

So, while nothing defies physics, GW defies logic!

Though an Iron Warriors one would look more like a bee.

Not getting the SM flier although I may get the engines off eBay if they fit on the Stormraven and Storm Eagle.

I like the talon. Finally a flyer for my SM. Take that, BA/GK players!

The Ork fighters look really good. The only thing I don't like about them are the toothed air intakes.

Scythe looks great.

Talon, as stated before could be serviceable with engine position swap and assault cannon replacement. I'm not sure why aerodynamics comes into anybodies mind, couldn't these things be using a combination of anti-grav and jet engines like the land speeder?

Okay, someone explain the point of a flame thrower on a fast moving aircraft. Do it in a way that makes ANY sense. Seriously. Think about it.

Which one? Cause on an Ork plane it would make perfect sense.

the talon looks like it has lots convertability. the cockpit could be used for knight titans, something other to use than a sentinel cockpit. The engine are good and could be used for lots of stuff. but it sucks in general. too small, too many guns and in very odd places. Looks very orky. lootin time.

The ork and necron fliers are pretty damn good.

Okay, someone explain the point of a flame thrower on a fast moving aircraft. Do it in a way that makes ANY sense. Seriously. Think about it.

If the flame thrower itself is pointing towards the rear of the aircraft and is under its fuselage why not?
It would basically be like those civil defense craft that drop water on forest fires, except the water is pure napalm and you light a sprak after it

I can see where your inital point was coming from though

HELL YEAH! I get 3 ork plane options which I will be excited to convert, *AND* a horribly goofy Space marine flyer which screams to be looted! If that had a beanie propeller on the top of it, it would make a fantastic ork Big Mek contraption! Add some grabby hands and some teeth and it would become an awesome ork mega deff kopta.

nkelsch wrote:HELL YEAH! I get 3 ork plane options which I will be excited to convert, *AND* a horribly goofy Space marine flyer which screams to be looted! If that had a beanie propeller on the top of it, it would make a fantastic ork Big Mek contraption! Add some grabby hands and some teeth and it would become an awesome ork mega deff kopta.

dude, ork bi planes, da red baron!

Actually, I really really like to space marine gunship.
The only thing that looks gakky on it are the weapons,
and that's probably easy to fix.
(and maybe lengthen the tail a bit, to fix the stubbiness,
that gw seems to love so much on space marines flyers... -.-)

Brilliant, needs boyz on the wings now.

Honestly, if you lengthened the tail and stuck some kind of turbine in there, it would pass for a helicopter tail- either that or stick the vtol style engines on the tail. If you removed the cockpit and stuck an old rhino hull piece (the rounded front armor or whatever) and plasticarded up the cheek guns like the missile launchers you could essentially give the stormtalon a landspeeder tempest style cockpit. Change the assault cannon to rest where the sensors are- maybe use a vindicator crane rig housing and dark angels ravenwing assault cannons- you'd have an A-10 looking turret.
Then, to detract from the front heacy/contribute to lift- take some drop pod turbines and stick them where the cheek guns are in the picture now. Make a plasticard housing and BAM! you have mini storm raven anti-grav looking doohickers.

You COULD make this thing look menacing- it would just take some serious conversion skill.

Oh how I wish my mspaint/photoshop skills were good enough to post a concept pic

Ouze wrote:

Kaliber wrote:The Stormtalon reminds me of a bumble bee, defying physics, able to fly with it's tiny tiny wings. I picture it flying around in tiny circles off by itself.

Nothing defies physics; Bumblebess are utterly capable of flight and the rest is an urban legend.

Yes, but I don't think they actually pinned down the functional mechanics untill the 1990's. Bumblebees flew on mere theory alone! Realy what the little buggers were doing was defying sciences ability ( or probably need) to be measured. Stealth technology if you will.

But back on topic. I for one plan to use the land speeder Auto cannons from the raven wing kits, and change the landing gear around on the Stormfish/gold talon.

I can just use one of these GI Joe originals for the space marine one, right?

Please don't attach non wargaming images to Dakka, you need to use off site hosting for any such images.
reds8n

n0t_u wrote:Brilliant, needs boyz on the wings now.

They should be playing tennis with a gretchin, too. The gretchin being the ball, of course.

Ratius wrote:

Okay, someone explain the point of a flame thrower on a fast moving aircraft. Do it in a way that makes ANY sense. Seriously. Think about it.

If the flame thrower itself is pointing towards the rear of the aircraft and is under its fuselage why not?
It would basically be like those civil defense craft that drop water on forest fires, except the water is pure napalm and you light a sprak after it

I can see where your inital point was coming from though

It's on top and pointing forward. Still, even if it were pleased as you describe, the burning fuel (napalm/kerosine) would just br caught up in the tail wash and dispersed enough to not have any effect at all.

Perturabo's Chosen wrote:I can just use one of these GI Joe originals for the space marine one, right?

Nope, those weapons are too small.

I don't know why people keep raging over the ork aircraft having an imaginary flamer.

It's on top and pointing forward.

Ah, I thought that was a standard gun turret.

Breotan wrote:I can see where your inital point was coming from though

It's on top and pointing forward. Still, even if it were pleased as you describe, the burning fuel (napalm/kerosine) would just br caught up in the tail wash and dispersed enough to not have any effect at all.

After looking at an image or two of the Stormtalon with smaller assault cannons, I actually think it looks pretty cool. Not well balanced physically, but I like the look of it.

Panic wrote:yeah,

LunaHound wrote:Beast of War rocks, boo the haters that had no faith :3

Oakenshield wrote:... no one could have guessed it would look that goofy, does BoW's rumour cred go up substantially now?

Not really...
It shows they had access to the photo and were too chicken gak of GW to post it.
...

I still gave them credit in the Mongers thread. Good on them. Let's see if their 6th ed crap pans out.

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Ouze wrote:Nothing defies physics...

But wouldn't that be FUN?!

nkelsch wrote:HELL YEAH! I get 3 ork plane options which I will be excited to convert, *AND* a horribly goofy Space marine flyer which screams to be looted! If that had a beanie propeller on the top of it, it would make a fantastic ork Big Mek contraption! Add some grabby hands and some teeth and it would become an awesome ork mega deff kopta.

Something like this?