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Isengard wrote:I can only say on the tac squad what the guy told me. He did not show me the lists or anything but he opened the conversation with "price rise is imminent and you need to order now to beat it". He speculates that the standard marine box (e.g. GK power armour) is 5. The 10 model boxes are nowhere near on the profit margins so they are getting a ramp up, but he might have misread or got it wrong, can't say. I hope he's wrong but he quoted the same prices as have been mentioned on here for the vehicles. I could see the GW logic in this, it costs £40+ to get 10 GK marines but only £23 for vanilla SM tac squad, so it is easy to justify in their minds pushing up the tac squad considerably to make this up.

Plus they have the additional problem of starter set tac squads being sold off extremely cheaply and bits bought to change the special weapon, devastator box sets for any different heavy weapon. I have to say that with this news I'll be dusting off my dark angels and ebaying them when the supply of cheap marines runs out, shoudl be fetching a good enough price now to treat myself to a private secret Pacific island base from which to take over the world.
With enough spare cash from selling the other squads to advertise for minions*.
That or I'm going to fufil the space pirate plan me and some friends had a few years back, yarr!




*minions must be willing to be turned into zombies if required, mainly because zombies are cool, but it will also make people think it is a zombie apocalypse and they shall not suspect your new El Presidente, me!

unmercifulconker wrote:

DiabolicAl wrote:

Isengard wrote:Something else occured to me on this score, why do GW insist on this cloak and dagger approach to the price rise, which will leak and then blaze the whole set of rises in one go? !

Its disgusting in all honesty, they used to be quite up front about 'adjustments' giving you at least a few weeks to plan purchases and get in before the rises. Now its is mere days, in fact as most subscribers will be receving WD on the monday, if it is the 28th prices go up they will recieve no notice at all!

I honestly cannot think of a another company that treats its loyal fanbase with such disregard and disdain...

What about lucasarts

Seriously lol We need Battlefront 3! Or another Star Wars movie e-freaking-ventually.

unmercifulconker wrote:

DiabolicAl wrote:

Isengard wrote:Something else occured to me on this score, why do GW insist on this cloak and dagger approach to the price rise, which will leak and then blaze the whole set of rises in one go? !

Its disgusting in all honesty, they used to be quite up front about 'adjustments' giving you at least a few weeks to plan purchases and get in before the rises. Now its is mere days, in fact as most subscribers will be receving WD on the monday, if it is the 28th prices go up they will recieve no notice at all!

I honestly cannot think of a another company that treats its loyal fanbase with such disregard and disdain...

What about lucasarts

Runner up to the Star Wars stuff at the beginning

Now, go stop buying GW for a few years folks, and don't get anyone else started with their own stuff barring ebay, you'll see prices drop fast then!

Amen to that

GalacticDefender wrote:

unmercifulconker wrote:

DiabolicAl wrote:

Isengard wrote:Something else occured to me on this score, why do GW insist on this cloak and dagger approach to the price rise, which will leak and then blaze the whole set of rises in one go? !

Its disgusting in all honesty, they used to be quite up front about 'adjustments' giving you at least a few weeks to plan purchases and get in before the rises. Now its is mere days, in fact as most subscribers will be receving WD on the monday, if it is the 28th prices go up they will recieve no notice at all!

I honestly cannot think of a another company that treats its loyal fanbase with such disregard and disdain...

What about lucasarts

Seriously lol We need Battlefront 3! Or another Star Wars movie e-freaking-ventually.

No, no more Star Wars movies... it's already dead.. Lucas killed it.

But yes to BF3 : )

The price change is going to be global. Everyone will see it (poos Australia!).

If anyone wants to place an order with us, they can lock in the current prices up until next Friday, 6-1-2012

Just putting 1 + 1 together (and coming up with 3)...but wouldn't a 32% - 33 % increase for DA, BT and Tau suggest that two of those will be heavily advertised soon...maybe in the 6th Ed?

DARK ANGELS VETERAN SPACE MARINES $33.00 $25.00 32.00%

CODEX BLACK TEMPLARS (ENGLISH) $33.00 $24.75 33.33%

CODEX TAU EMPIRE (ENGLISH) $33.00 $24.75 33.33%

manoknok wrote:Just putting 1 + 1 together (and coming up with 3)...but wouldn't a 32% - 33 % increase for DA, BT and Tau suggest that two of those will be heavily advertised soon...maybe in the 6th Ed?

DARK ANGELS VETERAN SPACE MARINES $33.00 $25.00 32.00%

CODEX BLACK TEMPLARS (ENGLISH) $33.00 $24.75 33.33%

CODEX TAU EMPIRE (ENGLISH) $33.00 $24.75 33.33%

Deathwing and starter box come to mind. Not sure of the other one, chaos maybe ?

skkipper wrote:GW is a cheap hobby. I have other hobbies and GW is way cheaper. Rebuilding cars or kite surfing are both way more expensive.

I have hobby of collecting sea shells and pebble stones, for free.

GW is way expensive.

Your point?

loki old fart wrote:

manoknok wrote:Just putting 1 + 1 together (and coming up with 3)...but wouldn't a 32% - 33 % increase for DA, BT and Tau suggest that two of those will be heavily advertised soon...maybe in the 6th Ed?

DARK ANGELS VETERAN SPACE MARINES $33.00 $25.00 32.00%

CODEX BLACK TEMPLARS (ENGLISH) $33.00 $24.75 33.33%

CODEX TAU EMPIRE (ENGLISH) $33.00 $24.75 33.33%

Deathwing and starter box come to mind. Not sure of the other one, chaos maybe ?

Good point on the Deathwing.../veteran and the rumour point to Chaos...but they only get a paltry 16% price increase...though the Daemon Prince is up there. Maybe it will be Deathwing (+33%) versus modular movement trays (+65%)...

Oh wait. It will be Deathwing using movement trays walking across a battlefield of accessories (+71.74%). That makes economic logic

LunaHound wrote:

skkipper wrote:GW is a cheap hobby. I have other hobbies and GW is way cheaper. Rebuilding cars or kite surfing are both way more expensive.

I have hobby of collecting sea shells and pebble stones, for free.

GW is way expensive.

Your point?

GW seems really cheap when compared to other pastimes such as Meth, or private jet collecting? I think thats what it was

so i just talked to my local store owner and he told me stormravens are going to 82.50, land raiders 74.25 and droppods to 37.25 among other increases.

Reecius wrote:The price change is going to be global. Everyone will see it (poos Australia!).

If anyone wants to place an order with us, they can lock in the current prices up until next Friday, 6-1-2012

Do you actually have to change the prices? My old FLGS would only change the prices on new product ordered at that newer, higher price instead of redoing all their existing stock. It was less work for them and a bit of a thank you for us gamers who shopped locally.

warboss wrote:

Reecius wrote:The price change is going to be global. Everyone will see it (poos Australia!).

If anyone wants to place an order with us, they can lock in the current prices up until next Friday, 6-1-2012

Do you actually have to change the prices? My old FLGS would only change the prices on new product ordered at that newer, higher price instead of redoing all their existing stock. It was less work for them and a bit of a thank you for us gamers who shopped locally.

I assume, then, that your store manually inputs prices?

Most of the ones here scan the bar code, so that wouldn't work.

spacewolved wrote:so i just talked to my local store owner and he told me stormravens are going to 82.50, land raiders 74.25 and droppods to 37.25 among other increases.

Welcome to two days ago!


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Platuan4th wrote:

warboss wrote:

Reecius wrote:The price change is going to be global. Everyone will see it (poos Australia!).

If anyone wants to place an order with us, they can lock in the current prices up until next Friday, 6-1-2012

Do you actually have to change the prices? My old FLGS would only change the prices on new product ordered at that newer, higher price instead of redoing all their existing stock. It was less work for them and a bit of a thank you for us gamers who shopped locally.

I assume, then, that your store manually inputs prices?

Most of the ones here scan the bar code, so that wouldn't work.

Depends on the POS system. Unlikely that it automatically updates at a FLGS.

I'm not seeing anyone complaining about the impending price gouges on the official GW Facebook page, oddly. Unless they're just getting deleted, which I totally would not put past GW.

spacewolved wrote:so i just talked to my local store owner and he told me stormravens are going to 82.50, land raiders 74.25 and droppods to 37.25 among other increases.

so if the us has roughly a $17 increase what will the increase be in Oz from $110?

I bet $140-150 will be the new price

TheSovereign wrote:I'm not seeing anyone complaining about the impending price gouges on the official GW Facebook page, oddly. Unless they're just getting deleted, which I totally would not put past GW.

Last time the fan base raged, they tried eliminating as many responses as they could on the Facebook page, but ultimately the staff just added a post saying they understood the concerns of their customers and created the one post so that people could vent their frustration there rather than leave it with their images.

In the end, it really didn't do a thing as here we are again and all we're gonna do is simply cause the web dudes in charge of their Facebook page to have a long night and nothing more.

The best recourse is to simply vote with the wallet and walk away from the hobby if it is too expensive.

cgage00 wrote:Well sadly I'm starting a family and it's time to hang up my wargaming. So anyone interested in some blood angels and imperial guard hydras let me know lol

I might be interested in the Blood Angels when I get paid at the end of month.

cgage00 wrote:Well sadly I'm starting a family and it's time to hang up my wargaming.

*squints*

Wargaming and families are mutually exclusive? The multitude of people who post here and have kids would seem to suggest otherwise.

Heh, aye, mine are now gamers as well.

So yeah, seems an odd line in the sand.

edit - at the very least I'd advise boxing it, and keeping it in the attic for when said kiddies are older. Never know what you might save if you get back in the door in several years.

H.B.M.C. wrote:

cgage00 wrote:Well sadly I'm starting a family and it's time to hang up my wargaming.

*squints*

Wargaming and families are mutually exclusive? The multitude of people who post here and have kids would seem to suggest otherwise.

On the other hand, toddlers and bitz boxes are sworn enemies.

unmercifulconker wrote:Wow over 30 quid for a tac squad absolutely ridiculous, so it would probably cost about 50 quid to create a BT unit, isn't it fantastic?

Indeed. I remember when the Tacs first came out and they were £10, as plastic was supposed to "be cheaper". I honestly cannot think of anything off the top of my head that has risen 200% in price over the last 14 years.

GalacticDefender wrote:

Isengard wrote:I can only say on the tac squad what the guy told me. He did not show me the lists or anything but he opened the conversation with "price rise is imminent and you need to order now to beat it". He speculates that the standard marine box (e.g. GK power armour) is 5. The 10 model boxes are nowhere near on the profit margins so they are getting a ramp up, but he might have misread or got it wrong, can't say. I hope he's wrong but he quoted the same prices as have been mentioned on here for the vehicles. I could see the GW logic in this, it costs £40+ to get 10 GK marines but only £23 for vanilla SM tac squad, so it is easy to justify in their minds pushing up the tac squad considerably to make this up.

Wait, did you mean the grey knight SM tac squad or the regular marines tac squad as well? Because I thought that wasn't supposed to go up much. What do you mean by "The standard marine box is 5"?

Are GK marines metal? If so that would explain it.

Sorry for not being clear enough. Once again I attach a health warning that this came from the guy who runs the FLGS and he did not show me any lists, etc, just word of mouth.

GW are clearly moving to a model where 5 plastic minis with lots of extras on the sprues (e.g. power armour GK, death company) is the norm rather than say 10 a box with fewer options. These sets of 5 are currently £20.50 a box. The box of 10 standard tac marines is £23. So to buy as many GK power armour marines is £41, a huge differential. The guy said he thought they were looking to close this differentiual in time-honoured GW fashion by upping the price. If say they do go to £31 for the box of 10 tac marines they can still argue that it's £10 cheaper than buying 10 GK in power armur or 10 death company. Yes it's a massive hike but the defence is there. I for one can quite believe they would do this, whether they actually are doing this I can't say for sure.

Grimtuff wrote:

unmercifulconker wrote:Wow over 30 quid for a tac squad absolutely ridiculous, so it would probably cost about 50 quid to create a BT unit, isn't it fantastic?

Indeed. I remember when the Tacs first came out and they were £10, as plastic was supposed to "be cheaper". I honestly cannot think of anything off the top of my head that has risen 200% in price over the last 14 years.

30 GBP for a Tactical squad seems extremely unlikely. Tactical Marines generally don't go up too much in cost, and I think if we were going to 5 Marines per box rather than 10 we'd have heard more about it by now.

Fetterkey wrote:

Grimtuff wrote:

unmercifulconker wrote:Wow over 30 quid for a tac squad absolutely ridiculous, so it would probably cost about 50 quid to create a BT unit, isn't it fantastic?

Indeed. I remember when the Tacs first came out and they were £10, as plastic was supposed to "be cheaper". I honestly cannot think of anything off the top of my head that has risen 200% in price over the last 14 years.

30 GBP for a Tactical squad seems extremely unlikely. Tactical Marines generally don't go up too much in cost, and I think if we were going to 5 Marines per box rather than 10 we'd have heard more about it by now.

Seeing as the SM Battleforce is rumoured to be £80, I fully see Tacs being £30 to still give the illusion one saves money when buying a Battleforce...

So if its a 20% increase for the Stormraven then I think that this would make it £51.50 here in the UK if we get a similar 20% increase. Ouch!

Fetterkey wrote:
30 GBP for a Tactical squad seems extremely unlikely. Tactical Marines generally don't go up too much in cost, and I think if we were going to 5 Marines per box rather than 10 we'd have heard more about it by now.

Yeah, most Guard players couldn't believe it when the 10man box reached the price of the old 20man boxes either.

I have no doubts this will be accurate, and the resoning for their staff note book is pretty much expected.

DarthOvious wrote:So if its a 20% increase for the Stormraven then I think that this would make it £51.50 here in the UK if we get a similar 20% increase. Ouch!

Close, SR's are rumoured to be £50.

Wow. I... wow.

I haven't bought any models in a store since 2010. The prices are just insane.

I still remember when I was in my teens and you could buy a box of Marines for pocket money.

How is it that a Tactical squad is now four times the price?